I've been listening to my conglomeration of Kinks MP3s lately and I've been thinking that I'd really like to have their classic sixties stuff on CD. So, I thought, I'd simply go out and pick up all the Castle reissues that they put out in 1998, with all the groovy bonus tracks appended to each album, since I have a few of them already, namely Something Else, Village Green Preservation Society, and Arthur. But now that I'm looking to buy the remaining albums, I've been reading complaints about the mastering on the albums. Apparently, the versions of the albums that are most appealing in terms of singles and unreleased stuff tacked on the end have the worst sound quality! Is there anyone here who has heard the Castle reissues in question and can offer an opinion on sound quality compared to other versions, which have much less bonus material?
― Chris F., Tuesday, 25 November 2003 04:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris F., Tuesday, 25 November 2003 04:38 (twenty-two years ago)
I have no idea about a box set, but every album from Kinda Kinks to Lola vs. the Powerman and the Money-Go-Round (or Muswell Hillbillies, depending on who you ask and I'm not sure I quite got those album titles right) is well work owning.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 04:47 (twenty-two years ago)
I've got The Great Lost Kinks Album on MP3, and I agree that it is superb. It might be my favorite Kinks album right now. Well, OK, Arthur is my favorite, but The Great Lost Kinks Album is a strong contender, and certainly easier to listen to repeatedly.
Incidentally, how do I post in italics on this board?
― Chris F. (servoret), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 05:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris F. (servoret), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 05:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris F. (servoret), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 05:53 (twenty-two years ago)
Also, any info on a possible box set would be great . . . .never heard this.
― Stephie (Stephie), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 06:09 (twenty-two years ago)
Also - get the BBC Sessions! The versions of See My Friends, You Really Got Me, All of The Day, and especially Love Me Till the Sun Shines knock spots off the originals.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jonathan (Jonathan), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)
Thanks for the advice, Dr. C. I was actually looking at the BBC Sessions in the store today, and I noted that it also has "That Strange Effect", which I liked when I heard Holly Golightly do it, and "When I Turn Off the Living Room Light"-- is that the same version as the track on "The Great Lost Kinks Album"? I think it'll be a Christmas request.
The Castle reissues seem to be a little difficult to track down at this late date. Apparently, they've been supplanted by less generous versions? Anyway, I'll try my best to get all the early albums that I don't have.
As far as Village Green goes, I read in the liner notes to my reissue that it was originally planned as a double album, with 20 tracks! Does anyone know what the other 5 tracks would have been, if the album had originally been released that way? And are they included on this theoretical double CD reissue?
― Chris F. (servoret), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 08:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris F. (servoret), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 08:19 (twenty-two years ago)
Misty Waters IS a VGPS outtake though. If you takethe mono and stereo versions together there are 17 songs (the stereo adds Mr. Songbird and Days and drops 5 others) If we add Misty Waters that makes 18. It's possible that LH or RR would have been recycled for the double VGPS and it's also possible that She's Got Everything (B-side of Days) would have been on there.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 09:11 (twenty-two years ago)
I'm disappointed that "She's Got Everything" wasn't tacked on to the end of the CD-- I could have done without the mono mix of "Days" to compensate, if length was an issue. Oh well, I guess I can always pick up The Kink Kronikles, especially since it seems like there are a few other songs on that album that never made it on to the end of a Castle reissue.
― Chris F. (servoret), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 11:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 11:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)
"muswell hillbillies," which is a damn good album but maybe a bit overrated, was the first album the kinks made after they left reprise, and as such it wasn't reissued by castle; it was reissued a little bit later by velvel. or at least that's what's available in the u.s. i have no idea if the velvel issue is still in print, but it's damn easy to find here in new york.
the castle reissues seem to come in two different sizes; you can find 20-or-so-track versions of all the '60s classics but you can also find 15-or-so-track versions of the same albums, with two or three bonus tracks instead of seven or eight. i have no idea why that is, but make sure you're buying the ones with the most tracks. because, damn, their outtakes and singles and b-sides were mighty fine.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)
Stereo versions of the non-stereo tracks that were only on the English version, maybe?
I have a Japanese version of the UK album, and there all tracks are in stereo.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― it's ALL too loud, Tuesday, 24 May 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 24 May 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)
Other than that, I say definitely Face To Face is your next essential. Beyond that, move forward and backward through the catalog until you hit a point where you don't like the stuff anymore. For me, that's just after Muswell Hilbillies!
And incidentally, I think the reason you don't see that around anymore is that the company that reissued them (Velvel) is now out of business, but I thought someone else picked them up? Anyone know?
― Hutlock (Hutlock), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)
― Huk-L, Tuesday, 24 May 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)
― Hutlock (Hutlock), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)
― Huk-L, Tuesday, 24 May 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)
And also because I have Kinks Kronicles; albeit not remastered, it's a fantastic summary of that era, including great liners by Jon Mendelssohn, and one of the best songs from the 3-CD set, "Berkley Mews".
BTW, is it wrong to like Arthur more?
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)
― it's ALL too loud, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)
― it's ALL too loud, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)