Xmas #1 Odds 25/11/03

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Ladbrokes:

Pop Idol 4/5
The Darkness 3/1
Gary Jules 8/1
Bill Nighy 10/1
Avid Merrion 12/1
Noddy 25/1
Sir Cliff Richard 33/1
Blue 40/1
Fast Food Rockers 40/1
Four Poofs And A Piano 40/1
Justin Timberlake 40/1
Katie Melua 40/1
The Cheeky Girls 40/1
Alex Parks 50/1
Atomic Kitten 50/1
Christina Aguilera 50/1
Craig David 50/1
Robin Gibb + Alistair Griffin 50/1
Sugababes 50/1
Travis 50/1
UB40 50/1

William Hill's odds are a bit different, presumably they mean return from a £1 stake:

Pop Idol 12 1.80
The Darkness 2.87
Gary Jules 8.00
Bill Nighy 13.00
Avid Merrion 15.00
U B 40 17.00
Cliff Richard 26.00
Blue / Stevie Wonder / Angie Stone 26.00
Noddy 26.00
Alex Parks 34.00
Will Young (solo) 41.00
Sugababes 41.00
Ozzy & Kelly Osbourne 41.00
Alistair Griffin 41.00
Young Punks 41.00
Simply Red 51.00
Fast Food Rockers 51.00
Westlife 51.00
Justin Timberlake 51.00
Basil Brush (solo) 51.00
Delta Goodrem 51.00
The Accelerators 51.00
The Cheeky Girls 51.00
Shane Ritchie 51.00
Big Brovaz 51.00
Dido 51.00
Katie Melua 51.00
Liberty X 67.00
Kylie Minogue 67.00
Girls Aloud 67.00
Gareth Gates (solo) 67.00
Eminem 67.00
Elvis Presley 67.00
Christina Aguilera 67.00
Busted 67.00
Punk Aid 101.00

Corals:

Pop Idol Group 4/9
The Darkness 7/4
Gary Jules 6/1
Bill Nighy (Billy Mack) 8/1
Cliff Richard (Solo) 12/1
Avid Merrion (Solo) 12/1
UB40 20/1
Blue & Stevie Wonder 25/1
Noddy (Solo) 25/1
Katie Melua 33/1
John Lennon 33/1
Basil Brush 33/1
Atomic Kitten 40/1
Sugababes 40/1
The Cheeky Girls 50/1
Fast Food Rockers 50/1
Justin Timberlake (Solo) 66/1
Will Young (Solo) 100/1
Craig David (Solo) 100/1
Four Poofs And A Piano 100/1
Shane Ritchie 100/1
Gareth Gates (Solo) 150/1
Madonna (Solo) 150/1
Michael Jackson (Solo) 150/1
Simply Red 150/1
Ozzy & Kelly Osbourne 150/1
Rachel Stevens (Solo) 150/1

Victor Chandler aren't offering odds, and I don't understand the spred betting types.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

what's trousersnake doing? the macd's ad?

i reckon gary jules now. 'love actually' bloke can't win, because the song is shit. darkness, who i usually like -- well, it's a bit spoofy isn't it?

― enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Sadly the bookies are OTM on this one.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, yeah, i forgot about the pop idols. balls.

― enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i would quite happily ban the release of all singles during the month of December

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Gary jules record is bluddy awfulll

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

no it isn't.

― enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

the Pop Idol christmas record is a work of genius.
its cynicism taken to the point where it becomes an high art.
whoever's idea it was must be one sick sonofabitch marketing motherfucker and we have to take our hat off to him.
in an ideal world, it would be the last number1 EVER.
they should shut down CIN after that one.
awesome.

fucking piece of shit record tho, and all involved should be minced and fed to squirrels.

i love the Darkness single. but i'm biased.

― ian johno (ian johno), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

er, the Pop Idol record isn't THAT big or clever...that said it's not actually THAT bad either, but then that's part of the problem innit, offensively inoffensive

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Well it's a rotten song in the first place and Ver Idols hardly improve it.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

wot song is it?

― enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

"Happy Christmas (War Is Over)"

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

boo-yah!
grebt idea, tres ironique. i'm lovin it.

― enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Until they sack it and do "Jerusalem" instead.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i still can't decide if 'Happy Christmas (war is over)' is truly dud or not...there are not that many great Christmas songs anyway (they get ruined every year by a curious increase in airplay in the month of December for some reason)

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Stevem there are loads of great Christmas songs! (Well, enough anyway). Happy Xmas WIO is not one though.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not convinced there are! but there was a thread about this very subject was there not?

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Hundreds.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Of threads.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

many of them i think you could call either classic or dud qith equal justification (make sense? hrmmm) e.g. 'Stop The Cavalry', Slade....i think Wizzard get away with it tho

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah but you can call almost anything classic or dud with equal justification! Sure there aren't neccessarily many you'd listen to all year round but that would be a mental way of judging them. The schoolboy glee in Noddy's voice when he yells "IT'S CHRIST-MAAAAS!" isn't necessarily a great musical moment but it sums up the childish delight I used to feel (and still do a bit) perfectly, for instance.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, it is a great moment tho. i wish my doorbell did that when people rang it, all year round.

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

has it been really discussed just what is so bad about Lennon's song tho?

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah -- i'm no lennon fan, but i don't hate on it.

― enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Starts off guilt-tripping ("And so this is Christmas and what have we done") ends up just bogus ("War is over if you want it") - it's not a complete stinker, it does have a pretty memorable hook after all, but even in the sub-category of Xmas 'message' singles (all of which seem to be about war - why??) it's average fair. I'd probably take "Pipes Of Peace" over it (prettier tune), certainly "Stop The Cavalry" (bags of character, v.unusual production). Maybe it beats "A Spaceman Came Travelling" though.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh compared to other Lennon singles it's a masterpiece yes!

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

all of which seem to be about war - why??

'it'll all be over by xmas'/playing footter in no-man's land, that sort of thing. plus, the vietnam war was on at the time.

i din't know it was a message song as a kid, and as these things go, i like -- it has good warm production etc (this is me as a kid speaking). you could do worse.

― enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

good points well made. i quite like the 'production' of it i guess, even the ST Winifreds prototypes, didn't pay much attention to the words, doh

'stop the cavalry' i can't decide on either but you've sold me i think, better than that Macca effort too right?

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I think I didn't hear it at all as a kid, somehow, so any Xmas magic it has never transmitted to me.

Yes Stop The Cavalry > Pipes Of Peace > HC (WIO) > All Together Now by The Farm

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

by Macca effort i meant 'Simply Having...' by the by!

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

'all together now' is of course pachelbel -- but coolio did a pachelbel number too -- can you tell me what it was called?????

― enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"Wonderful Christmastime" I like about as little as "War Is Over" - I get the impression that Macca was thinking along the lines of "I, the great tunesmith of our age, will now apply myself to the problem of The Christmas Song", there's no heart in it. "Mull Of Kintyre" is better.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

*glass drops and shatters*

oh wait, you are correct!

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

enrique - 'C u when you get there?'

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

thanking you

― enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i can think of another three 'pachelbel' tracks in that case - Spiritualized 'Ladies And Gentlemen...', that FSOL track off the 'Lifeforms' and that 'Everything Is Gonna Be Alright' hit from a few years back

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It amazed me that Oasis never did a Christmas song (I'm mad for Christmas) when they were in their full on Sladeness period. They could have handed out little sachets of coke to the kids on the Christmas TOTP.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

their cover of Slade's ubiquitous festive anthem was on last year's Help! compilation and is predictably dire

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

'whatever' was qt xmassy.

― enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

oh defo, i like the ending of that song actually

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

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