what next for Chris ott?

Me, I think he's gonna go to ninja school.

(Hey wait a minute, I'm writing a piece for PSF that was assigned by someone else, what's going on here?)

that's Brent D.

-- Dom Passantino (lifetimepilingu...), November 25th, 2003.

This is still the funniest thing I've ever posted on ILM.

-- hiphopster8 (hiphopster...), February 15th, 2005.

they're also one of the few teams to have beaten chelsea this year, a true indie-dork would cheer for like gateshead, or something...

this dude's fueds with ilx were lol.

he seems like one of those guys who when he was younger kinda wanted to be "in" and never got there, so he got a little misanthropic, and that caused people to push him aside more, which caused him to be more misanthropic, and on and on, and now his existence boils down to picking fights with the girlfriends of indie rockers.

that was pretty great tho

Yeah, I could finally cheer Ott on for the first time in my life during that ordeal.

no denying

i'm just imagining a situation where someone calls the movie where james franco gets stuck in a rock inspirational and you respond "actually, it's only inspirational for people who want to cut their arms off"

that would be a weird stance to take, which is why i corrected the impression in a post with your name in it that you reposted

but no one is arguing that some people can find it uninspiring, and you spent half that post continuing to position it as "you are either a person who finds this inspiring or uninspiring and that choice says stuff about you", which is why i said that two things can be true at the same time and also this is a bunch of semantic bullshit. it is possible to find the sale of pitchfork to conde nast uninspiring and depressing or whatever and still be inspired by schreiber's bizarre life turning out the way it has or whatever. which is kind of there already in the monumental whiney g weingarten post that set all this off.

i've become the thing i've hated so let's just say whiney's into compartmentalization and you're not and be done with it

I dont recall saying being inspired by the sale says something about you - actively avoided casting aspersions. and Whiney specifically said it was inspiring to imagine getting to do nothing, so if the idea is that he was really saying it was the journey not the paycheck that was inspiring, I think you might have missed that.

It was chachi who took the "ahem the pitchfork story can clearly be inspiring" tack, earning a "FFS duh" before you even got here

and in case happy days wants to go down this route again, i'm not saying the filthy lucre makes everything uninspirational, or that there's nothing cool about how ryan went from "i love 12 rods" to "i got 12 million" blah blah all that shit

dude I made one fuckin post with some loose thoughts of very minor import to anybody in the world, just a response to what seemed to be a weirdly NO FUCKIN WAY IS THAT INSPIRING YOU GODDAMN CLOWNS thing you were mounting. just a personal "well, you know, there are are some ways in which that's kind of inspiring." in response, this multi-post ongoing jeremiad from you

like, I am usually the dude to whom people say "relax a little," but maybe relax just a tiny tiny bit?

Sorry when people claim I said something I didn't it gets my hackles up, trust I plan to avoid contradicting people on ilx in the future

For instance the "you goddamn clowns" tone came re: people pretending I was saying money is bad, not people saying it was inspiring

david geffen selling his stake in asylum records for millions in the 70s was certainly impressive, but it's inspirational only if your goal is to build something and then sell it for a large amount of money.

this is what you said; I think it's a false statement, thought I made my case for a different idea calmly and lucidly, since I wasn't mad at your claim, just disagreed. in response, you have been yelling a lot.

Tbf I can see why people might get defensive upon statements as simple as "selling your company is inspiring if you want to sell" - certainly leaves room for people to see extra words around it, but I can only point out the lack of them so many times.

it's the "only" that's the problem there, imo

Chachi if you look at my first response to you you'll see that I quoted the offending line of your post and repeated the previous post I made that makes clear why I'd find "croup why you saying money is bullshit" aggravating

it's inspirational only if your goal is to build something and then sell it for a large amount of money.

^^^

direct quote of a rather transparently false claim you made. in response to what I felt was a fairly mellow "well, no," you continue to be really snippy and weird ("I can only point out the lack of [other words] so many times")

Also "ffs...I'll repeat" is kinda the opposite of yelling

I am sorry if people were made defensive by my initial posts and yes I could have been nicer about clarifying

croup i'm sorry but we're just gonna have to agree to disagree here, murder is wrong imo even if it is for "shits and giggles"

Lol you goddamn clown

yeah i was trying to find net work for brett gurewitz as another likely candidate for someone who got rich off of indie rock. dexter holland is worth $65 million fwiw but they jumped to the majors earlier than i remembered. liz phair is worth $3 million but who knows what the various pathways for that income stream are.

― balls, Saturday, October 17, 2015 5:21 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just as a library science like q, where are these numbers coming from?

http://www.slj.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Marc.jpg

Possibly bullshit google results.

sites like Celebrity Net Worth are total speculation and even the estimated worth of celebrities that Forbes publishes don't seem to be much better

only way to know for sure is to troll a person into bragging about their wealth. then knock it down 10%.

add back 10% for bennies, though

ott only makes $84,600?

he explicitly stated the bennies

he makes so much money that he needed to crowdfund a podcast, because podcasts are so expensive to produce

just the pod will run you 25k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bLkcCZFKvA

thought it was 94K plus bennies...also that was probably quoting 2 years ago, so assuming even a 4% type cost of living bump for 2 years

he could be at over 98K plus bennies, however it's possible that that's been offset by rising health care premiums post ACA

i don't know, lots to think about

4% damn son

this is the ott we're talking about man c'mon gotta pay to play

my daughter has a little friend named Benny and I think about Ott's bennies every time he comes over. which is nice.

i always think of benzedrine

I named my son 94K because you have to dream

Maybe Ott has two little friends both named Benny?

I named my son 94K because you have to dream

― Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Tuesday, October 20, 2015 10:33 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I can just imagine little 94K Bennie Keyes running around the playground, talking shit about Best Coast for doing a Scion sponsored club show

somewhere, right now, chris is nodding

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/radioheads-ok-computer-is-20-but-lets-talk-about-hail-to-the-thief-instead

I don't know about Chris but I am nodding

9.3

what is he actually up to nowadays?

enjoying those bennies

looks like he has an infrequently updated podcast about the cure and that's about it

the less online presence he has the better obv

i actually managed to join his semi unofficial discord server once i caught a livestream. there were a fair deal of people considering how elusive the whole thing was, they weren't that friendly to newcomers like myself though. i actually had to send my rym account to an admin in order to "prove i was a real person" but come on that was obv to judge if my music taste was good enough lol.

i like some of the shallow rewards videos, mostly because i'm more interested in critics talking about the music industry as a whole rather than trying to sell me why an album is good/bad. if anyone knows any other critic that does this i'd be glad to hear

ott's analysis of the industry sucks though & regularly would delve into conspiratorial nonsense

oh and also the two rules of the server were 1: NO FANTANO and 2: NO CARETAKER whoch i think is super fair

he bought a CD off me via discogs last year.

which one?

Caretaker

disintegration loops