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OK, colour me ignorant, but I don't know where to start here. Where should I begin, what should I be checking out?

Any help greatly appreciated.

Cheers!

― Bill E, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ok, so I was a dj 2 nights a week at San Francisco's best (only!) full-time gay rock and roll bar, at the height of its popularity. I hardly played any "queercore" because most of it just didn't rock hard enough. (personal note to all queer SF-based bands: I'm only kidding here, you really rock out! I love you guys!) The dyke bands always rock harder, although nothing great is springing to mind. I'm actually thinking of a great song by a band whose singer was gay, but their name escapes me. Anyway, it goes "You look like a movie star, honeeeeyyyy". Anyone remember what this is? Maybe I'm lucky the clientele wasn't that young or up on the latest stuff, because there may well be a shitload of rocking queercore that I'm just not aware of. But for me it was much more important (at the club) to create the right atmosphere through music, and not worry about whether or not the bands were gay, pc, or whatever. This philosophy carries over into my personal life as well. Maybe what I'm saying is I can't answer your question. :)

― Sean, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Xtra Fancy, Team Dresch, and PAnsy Divison

― anthony, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If only Turbonegro were really queer, then my big gay heart would swell with pride.

I just haven't liked much that I've heard. Some interesting ideas (esp. the Need), but the records just don't do it for me. I got that "There's a Dyke in the Pit" record and it was mindblowingly bad. Still, there's tons I haven't heard so I should shut up.

Geoff, what are your suggestions?

Sean, that's an Extra Fancy song and it's called just that, "You Look Like a Movie Star, Honey."

― , Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maybe I'm lucky the clientele wasn't that young...

I read that and thought: "The Clientele are considered queercore?" Ha, ha.

I also just checked the AllMusic "queercore" entry to see if I was forgetting anyone I really dug, and ... The Nerves? Heatmiser? Am I missing something, or did someone over at AMG make a couple categorization mistakes?

End result of my visit: while I like the idea of queercore, and previously thought that I liked the music as well, it turns out that I don't really like any queercore bands. Pansy Division = fine. On the other hand, I'd rather eat glass than hear a Kaia solo record again. Team Dresch = eh. Most everything else = whatever. I guess I tend not to like music where the focus is something other than the musical aesthetics -- which is the only thing that lassoes together a lot of the sonically-very-different stuff that gets called "queercore."

If only the Queers counted. Oh, but wait -- just change the lyrics around, and the Queers = Pansy Division.

― Nitsuh, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Also, "queercore" is a genre that doesn't encompass any band who has gay member(s). Don't both Come and the Geraldine Fibbers have gay singers? Both great bands (imho), neither are "queercore".

― Sean, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thanks all for clearing some stuff up for me. Loathe as I am to classify music on the basis of sexuality, I wondered if I was missing out on some great stuff.

Here was I thinking the Queers & maybe Turbonegro counted! Duh! Obviously the irony detection gene passed me by!

Still, any more suggestions welcomed! Cheers!

― Bill E, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Heatmiser = not queercore per se, but the one guy who isn't Elliott Bastard Smith is gay, so there's the answer.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That's funny, for some reason. "You know, that one guy who isn't Elliott Smith. Remember him?"

― Nitsuh, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's so much more easy that way. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i'm gonna go 17 miles in the opposite direction and recommend two nice girls. also check out melbourne band the sailors eg of lyrics - i punch your ass with the fist of my cock etc.

― Geoff, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

God is my Co-Pilot

― dave q, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Two Nice Girls! Great band! Anyone who has a song called "I Spent My Last $10 on Birth Control and Beer" has a certain something, surely.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Bikini Kill!

― JM, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

seven years pass...

anyone read this book?

http://www.popmatters.com/books/reviews/h/homocore-2005.shtml

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:40 (sixteen years ago)

Yes, it's OK. It's really good if you look up all the zines they reference, either at a zine reference library or on that QZAP site.

― Tourtiere (Owen Pallett), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 15:03 (sixteen years ago)

thx O! sorry I missed you at BAM.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 15:19 (sixteen years ago)

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