Punch-ins/edits that ruin your day

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A bit of OCD here, but I was just listening to the Lemonheads' It's a Shame About Ray after responding to the "Songs w/ answering machine messages" thread, and the awful drum track edit at 1:28 of "Confetti" (cymbal cuts out mid-crash) made me want to break something. Commiserate.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 27 November 2003 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

You listen weird.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 27 November 2003 02:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"sweet child o mine" radio edit
"november rain" radio edit

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 27 November 2003 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

God, 2:47 of "It's a Shame About Ray", another one. Perhaps the Robb Brothers just gated a particular crash too heavily. Used to happened to Mission of Burma all the time.

The absolute worst moment on the record is at 0:11 of "Rudderless" when the hi-hat magically appears in the right channel, totally out of time with song, after having played as a muted mono wash for the first measure.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 27 November 2003 02:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"champagne supernove" radio edit

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 27 November 2003 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Any version of Isaac Hayes' "Walk On By" less than 12 minutes

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 27 November 2003 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if anyone will complain about Can edits. I won't.

― Schwingung (Damian), Thursday, 27 November 2003 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The transition on the Chemical Brothers' 'Surrender' from 'Hey Boy Hey Girl' to the title track is pants.

― Hayden Nicholls (Pop the Weasel), Thursday, 27 November 2003 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

nate i just heard one of those today!! 4 mins and a crappy fade – total ripoff

― jones (actual), Thursday, 27 November 2003 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)

There's apparently a 4-minute edit of "Starless" by King Crimson on some KC comp. WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THAT? The very prospect of this nearly reduced a younger me to tears.

― Schwingung (Damian), Thursday, 27 November 2003 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I hear this is corrected in Mobil Fidelity Sound Lab's now long-deleted Lemonheads box set.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 27 November 2003 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

No, Dadd, I've got that, the only improvements are shaping and low-end.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 27 November 2003 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

At 0.42 on the Who's 'Song Is Over' there's a tiny floor tom sound that shouldn't be there (funny thing is it happens just about on the 3rd beat of that bar so it could almost be meant to be there except it's so inconsequential and there are no drums in that section and none for another 16 bars or so..I think it was probably Moon dropping or putting something down onto the drum). I can't quite make up my mind if it annoys me or I find it endearing.

― David (David), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't see where it matters.

Aren't you some of the same people who will praise something when it sounds "raw"?

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I know there are some rustlings just before the drums come in on Kenny Salmon's 'Walking On Velvet' which I DO find a little intrusive.

― David (David), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, "Why does Psychocandy sound like shit" is a stupid question, but Oh! That one little glitch drives me NUTS! U R all mentalists.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)

But in some ways rustlings are better than a single clunk I suppose.

― David (David), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i am only disturbed by glitches that are a result of the media. the rest i don't really notice

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:37 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i find this kinda bizarre

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 27 November 2003 09:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Van Halen, "Romeo Delight". Right before the third chorus there's an incredibly bad vocal punch-in, the second syllable of the word is totally fucked. (The "Ba - OHHHWWW(tape-dropout noise for .001 milliseconds) please" part, I know DLR did alot of scat syllables etc but this sounds nothing like that, and it also makes it obvious that the 'please' is too early) The more times I hear it the more it fucks up the song for me because a) it's about 190 BPM and he's motormouthed his way through the rest of the track creating a stream-of-consciousness effect and to hear such an obvious edit ruins that, and b) EVERY TIME I've played this to someone to convince them it's great they've fucking noticed it! (That latter situ is more common than I should really admit)

― dave q, Thursday, 27 November 2003 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Beatmaster feat Cookie Crew "Rock Da House"!!!!! The single edit sounds like it was edited with a meat cleaver!!!!!!!

Also, the single version of New Order's "Fine Time"!!!!!! And the album versh of "586" with that corny "sample" style loop bits ("I see danger-DANGER!!!!-DANGER!!!!-DANGER!!!!- ..." bit!!!!!)

And that "radio edit" of The Orb's "Blue Room" which boils down 40 minutes into what seems like 40 seconds- mainly by getting a few soundclips of the tune together and crossfading them really badly, and then abruptly stopping when it gets boring!!!!!!

― Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Thursday, 27 November 2003 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate to say it but 0:50 of Good Vibrations when "excitations" gets cut off to make way for the first chorus.

― may pang (maypang), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Nothing like this annoys me, but seeing New Order's 586 mentioned reminded me of how the "heard you calling" refrain is edited in as "heard Duke, heard Duke, heard Duke calling" near the end. Always made me laugh more than anything else.

― darren (darren), Thursday, 27 November 2003 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I was wondering if anybody noticed some painful edits on the Beach Boys' one and only "Pet Sounds"

There is one particular bleed on the instrumental track that kills me. I think that there are a few brutal cuts but i'm not sure if i'm just making them up.

i find this problem to be way worse in movies. i was watching this crap movie with such blind compression that when a car door is slammed suddenly the background noise is turned off and takes a very noticeable time to kick back in. i think it was called "born in absurdistan" (watched it for the title obviously)

― ddd, Friday, 28 November 2003 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Lee Perry and King Tubby drive me insane.

The vocal comes in covered in reverb, then cuts out mid-syllable? I mean, wtf? And then there's whole mixes where the engineer is still experimenting with the hi-hat graphic eq, or sloling the drums and bass to get a level. Did they not know the tape was running?

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

By the WAY, I was being SARCASTIC.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

There's that bit in Yer Blues

― Pete S, Friday, 28 November 2003 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Tha's alright, yer pants are too short anyhow.

― some random drunk, Friday, 28 November 2003 07:57 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Patrick hernandez's "Born to be Alive" has a punch-in at 5:17 that sounds like the song has been possessed, or like you've accidentally recorded 2 seconds of a huge, loud reverbed guitar from another song on your "Born to Be Alive" cassette that you STUPIDLY forgot to pull the tabs out of. But it doesn't ruin my day, really, on the contrary.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

The ghostly remnants of a second/harmony/guide Oakey vocal that crop on "WXJL Tonight" aren't spooky but friendly.

In the Don't They Have Cool Edit in Tbilisi? pile comes a recording I have of Giya Kancheli's 4th symphony - supposedly a flash 24-bit job - where the low opening strings drop out at 2:09 before their reverb has died and take with them the original acoustic/distant traffic rumble. A real Huh? moment.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Joy Division - "Still" - OK, it's a crap recording to begin with so these things shouldn't be a surprise .. But in Passover, there's a half beat missing right around "Sanctuary from these feverish smiles" .. It was cool when I thought the band was playing that way (i.e. they fucked up) - but if it's the recording that sucks, it's just annoying.

― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

They cut out the last seven seconds of "Straw Towels" from the reissue of Associates - Fourth Drawer Down. What difference does seven seconds make?

― Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

Prince - Controversy (Radio Edit)

― Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Monday, 10 January 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

"House of Fun" by Madness!!!! At least the version on every 80s compil ( and every Madness compil since "Divine Madness" ). In the original UK single versh (The one wot got to No. 1!!!) you get the chorus repeated about 3 times, (Which is where it fades off on the current versions) and then it suddenly jumps into a jarring end chord (A bit like the end of the album version of "Cardiac Arrest".) which fades into the sound of a fairground!!!! It was one of the best endings in a UK pop record in the early 80s!!!! These days the only chance you get to hear it is their performace of it on The Young One's "Boring", and that's a pretty wonky edit as well!!!! The only version that seems to be around now is the one with the crappy "fade off" ending!!!!! Have they lost the master tapes or something?!?!?!?!

― Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

Can's "Haleluwah" or "Halelujah" or whatever.

There are a few edits that are not close enough to the beat Mr Czukay!

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

I don't like that they removed the cigarette lighter noises from the start of 'oh the guilt' by nirvana in the box set version.

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Can's "Haleluwah" or "Halelujah" or whatever.

Yeah, I wouldn't say that ruins my day, but I certainly didn't enjoy it.

On the other hand...
In this one Ariel Pink song on The Doldrums, there's a part where it cuts straight into the chorus out of nowhere. Depending on who you believe, it's either part of his super lo-fi sloppiness "schtick," or a genuine problem with his tape/equipment, but that part makes the song for me.

― sleep (sleep), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

Am I crazy or are there drum edits all over Galaxie 500's "On Fire"?

― LSTD (answer) (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

{Can's "Haleluwah" or "Halelujah" or whatever.

There are a few edits that are not close enough to the beat Mr Czukay!}

there's a quantized jd twitch edit of this that is immense, and handily solves this problem.

― Kang, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...

At 1:22 of "Candy-O" by The Cars, there is a tape slip in Elliot Easton's guitar solo.

I never noticed it until Easton mentioned it in an interview. Now, I notice it EVERY time I play that song. It's annoying.

― ZionTrain (ZionTrain), Monday, 13 June 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

It happens at the end of "My Life" by Billy Joel, going from the lyric "But - not - on - my - Time!" going into one more chorus before the fade. You can hear one of Liberty DeVito's cymbals getting cut off.

I recognized it for the first time this weekend, and pictured Phil Ramone sitting at a prod board in the year 1978, leaning back with his arms folded, telling the band, "Don't worry about it boys! We just fixed it!"

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 13 June 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Funnily enough, the video has him going into a piano only chorus before the 'final' chorus, so you are right.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

3 bad edits in girls aloud no good advice. i can't help but hear them.

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

Two incidences of edits that use dead sound:

Howard Jones "No-one is to blame"

and more famously

Hotel California ".. bring your alibis" |dead space| "Mirrors on the ceiling .. "

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

Okay well um... there's this killer drum fill towards the end of "Parasite" by Kiss (hotter than hell). A drummer friend told me it was punched-in, and it kind of fouled up the thrill for me a little bit. But just a little.

― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

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