What is the relation between Emo and Nirvana?

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Goddammit, educate me.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 18 December 2003 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

you don't like either of them.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 18 December 2003 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm coming around to some of it. In my own slow-witted way.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 18 December 2003 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

the fuzzy guitars

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 18 December 2003 03:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Come on, don't be stupid, there is absolutely no relation. As (deservingly) maligned as the genre of emo is, Staind came from Kurt. At least Rites of Spring gave us Blood Brtothers and The Locust and Man is the Bastard and shit.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure Nirvana spawned a thousand different bands including ones full of little emo dipshits.

― may pang (maypang), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, sure, but so did Pearl Jam and Weezer. What's your point?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

well, it's a relation for a start

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

My point was to show how this isn't topic isn't really worth discussing.

― may pang (maypang), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:17 (twenty-one years ago)

- one of those isn'ts.

― may pang (maypang), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

emo started in the late 80s as did nirvana.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

didn't do a very good job of it

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

(xp. possibly.)

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

*must try harder*

― may pang (maypang), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

That's surprising, that a thread about emo and Nirvana could generate so much angst. Just kidding.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:49 (twenty-one years ago)

As far as I can tell, Emo and Nirvana have no real relation, though I'm sure many modern day Emo bands were partially inspired to make music by them. Most modern day Emo bands (at least the less aggressive ones) are descended from Sunny Day Real Estate, who were slightly grunge-influenced. Also, come to think of it, Dave Grohl was part of the DC hardcore scene that spawned the original so-called Emo bands, Rites of Spring and Embrace. So their is a sort of link between Nirvana and Emo, though a very tenuous one.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 18 December 2003 05:33 (twenty-one years ago)

What does Dave have to do with it? Kurt wrote just about all the songs.

― Aja (aja), Thursday, 18 December 2003 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

True, but Grohl's joining the band surely must have influenced Kurt one way or another. His drumming certainly made their songs more powerful. Though of course that really has nothing to do with Emo.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 18 December 2003 05:42 (twenty-one years ago)

What rock geeks call emo and what the masses call emo are completely different. As latebloomer points out, most modern "emo" can be directly traced back to SDRE. Pre-94 emo, such as the often cited Rites and Embrace, really bears no resemblance to Nirvana, SDRE, or any band that wears the tag today.

Now, what do I think about emo? I could probably make a C90 of SDRE songs and be set for the rest of my life.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 18 December 2003 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.chez.com/richardion/images/nirvana/dave_grohl3.jpg

― Aja (aja), Thursday, 18 December 2003 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Pearl Jam gave us Staind moreso than Nirvana. Talking about the two bands, you're really talking about two COMPLETELY separate things.

― Xii (Xii), Thursday, 18 December 2003 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

xxi is right, pearl jam and alice in chains ruined music way are than nirvana ever did.

― Nihilist Pop Star (mjt), Thursday, 18 December 2003 08:31 (twenty-one years ago)

grohl played in the dc band scream
scream briefly recorded for those corporate bandits dischord, home to egghunt and embrace
grohl left his band scream and job at the 2000 pennsylvania avenue tower records (which sold and sells cds produced by corporate giant dischord records [which spawned emo punks like embrace, egg hunt and fugazi]) to join nirvana whose songs ABOUT A GIRL and ALL APOLOGIES are the biggest selling emo punk songs of all time
yes there is no relation

― mush mouth, Thursday, 18 December 2003 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Well if Bob Mould was the fatehr of Emo and Kurt Cobain was a fan of Husker Du, I can see a connection. Poor souls.

― mentalist (mentalist), Thursday, 18 December 2003 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

calling "About A Girl" and "Al Apologies" emo is like calling "Sympathy for the DEvil" nu-metal. I'm officially befuddled.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 18 December 2003 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

calling "About A Girl" and "Al Apologies" emo is like calling "Sympathy for the DEvil" nu-metal

No, it is not.

― mush mouth, Thursday, 18 December 2003 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

All Apologies was a horrendous Pixies lyrical theft.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 18 December 2003 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Said this on the other, inexplicable thread: Killing Joke were signed to Brian Eno's E'G Records (which they'd later deeply regret). Nirvana ripped off "Eighties" off of the Joke's NightTime, an E'G release.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 18 December 2003 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

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