MF Doom?

"Where to start" is a bastard of a question considering he's got a hand in at least four albums this year (if you count the leaked Madvillainy). I made a comp recently of his best stuff (both producing and MCing from 1999-mid '03; not including Madvillainy or Viktor Vaughn Vaudeville Villain), and it goes like this:

king geedorah - fazers
monsta island czars - m.i.n.y.a.
mf doom - who you think i am ft. m.i.c.
king geedorah - fastlane ft. biolante
mf doom - go with the flow
m.i.c. - mic line
king geedorah - anti-matter ft. mf doom and mr. fantastik
mf doom - operation greenbacks
king geedorah - lockjaw ft. trunks
mf doom - i hear voices (part once)
king geedorah - next levels ft. lil' sci, id 4 winds & stahhr
mf doom - doomsday
king geedorah - the final hour ft. mf doom
m.i.c. - 1,2... 1,2
mf doom - gas drawls
m.i.c. - take control
mf doom - ? ft. kurious
m.i.c. - make it squash
king geedorah - krazy world ft. gigan
mf doom - tick, tick ft. mf grimm
m.i.c. - under pressure
mf doom - dead bent
king geedorah - the fine print

*Geedorah is an MF Doom alias, is why I'm all "huh?" when he has a King Geedorah track "ft. MF Doom".

its hilarious in reviews when they write that he only raps on two tracks. ALIASES YOU DUMBSHITS! he's on nearly every track. and two of the few he isn't on are my favorites "Krazy World" and "I Wonder"

the madvillian album is also superb.

and viktor vaughn.

can't wait for MM FOOD!!!!!!!

To use pitchfork as an example (sorry)-

...The King Geedorah project, unlike Doom's recent outing as Viktor Vaughn, finds MF almost exclusively behind the boards, comfortable with rocking the SP1200 and letting others turn out the mic. Only two tracks feature Doom rhyming, but at least one of them is an album highlight...

Now yeah i know PITCHFORK BLAH BLAH CLOWNS BLAH BLAH, but the kid loves the record, makes reference to past doom projects, and yet still he doesn't recognize MF DOOM'S GODDAMN VOICE.

there's a significant difference between saying an album has 2 songs with mf doom verses when its closer to 6 or 7.

its just shoddy writing, because his verses on "no snakes alive" and "the fine print" are fab!

Wouldn't you recognize, say, Willie Nelson singing if he went by the name Harvis Finkelwert?

Not to mention the fact that it's plausible that someone might use or collaborate with rappers/singers/etc. who sound rather a lot like they do. Why wouldn't you assume that Harvis Finkelwert isn't just a big Willie Nelson fan who sounds quite a lot like Willie?!?

Hey josh, I thought you were talking about me and I was all ready to be like "YOU BITCH, I have Operation Doomsday on vinyl and a homemade shirt that says 'I'm at where your sister went'!". And then I realized that I reviewed Viktor Vaughn and not King Geedorah. To be technical, MF Doom raps on, what, five songs on KG? Fazers and The Fine Print are far and away the standouts and Dumile's verse on 'Anti-Matter' is the toughest thing to come out this year, I think. "Doom with the hog's leg, straight up, New Yorkin'"

1) MF Doom "Operation: Greenbacks"
2) MF Doom "Dead Bent" (12" version)
3) Viktor Vaughn "Saliva"
4) MF Doom "Red And Gold"
5) MF Doom "Doomsday"
6) Viktor Vaughn "Lickupon"
7) King Geedorah "The Fine Print"
8) MF Doom ft. Kurious "?"
9) MF Doom "Hey!"
10) King Geedorah "Fazers"

But the new "Vaudeville Villain" album is his best overall. It has one of the best great:crap lyric ratios in recent memory. Tons of quotables. Best hip-hop album of 2003.

what's this about?

the Madvillian comes out today. i'll be at rasputins for lunch

"Smoke Ernie El's, drink Gin, last name, Baylor"

there's a new track making the rounds. i like it!

quasimotos 2nd album might appeal if you like doom. maybe edans primitive plus, too.

new album is looking good from what ive heard so far... i hope hes producing the bulk of it.

is there enough interest for an ANTICIPATING BORN LIKE THIS thread?

that's that is killing me. kinda like lynguistics by cunninlynguistics. the bass and guitar playing on it's so nuanced and sweet, almost african kinda.

I'm playing the shit out of the Born Like This sampler. This is easily my most anticipated release for the near future

i love the new album so far. sounds a bit diff to how he used to, not quite as playful, but still dope.

yeah that's that is great. I like the lack of autotune in the terrible singing bit at the end too

i ADORE this album. it should be on everyones best of 2009 list.

when does this come out??

RADIATED HUMANS EATING THE FLESH OF RADIATED HUMANS

yeah that's that is great. I like the lack of autotune in the terrible singing bit at the end too

that singing bit's like my favourite. not terrible at all.

is ghost only on one track on the lp? something i read a while ago made it sound like he'd thrown in some of the sessions they did, kinda abandoning the plans for a full record

DOPE

how are you guys hearing this?

nm

has he used the 'rectal hysterectomy' line before?

that singing bit's like my favourite. not terrible at all.

ya I mean his singing voice is terrible but it fits nicely with the vibe of the whole thing.

heh took a while to click that they're Doom samples in That's That.

the thom yorke remix sounds better on paper.

it sounds like a thom yorke remix. the four tet mixes put the vocals on a different bed of sounds but it still sounded good, this sounds a little jarring

it needs to be more minimal i think.

lool @ "Batty Boyz"

yeh wtf!??!??

the raekwon joint is mad srs

whiney doomscrolling
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/arts/music/mf-doom-influences.html

I haven't tried to sell any music at these crazy prices going around... Got an offer on Discogs for $100 for the Vaudeville Villain CD. Just from having it in my collection. Shit's crazy.

Sold my vv literally weeks before he died for £95. Shame I didnt wait longer!

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/arts/music/mf-doom-influences.html

oops, just saw that was already posted.

https://daily.bandcamp.com/lists/a-guide-to-the-mf-doom-discography

If there's one catalog album I've played by any artist since Jan. 1, it's Operation: Doomsday. Every day in my car.

good tunes for riding out for sure!

Poll's going to get started when the Todd Rundgren results rollout is done. It's everything but bootlegs. KMD, MF DOOM and all other aliases, all productions, features, herbs, blends, go nuts and I'll sort it out. Will link the poll here when it's up!

man I can't remember most of his titles. One of those artists whose albums I just play and the titles don't matter a damn.

There won't be an exhaustive list of what's eligible. Good resources I've found for stray tracks are Genius and RYM.

i hear ya. thought i'd give a heads up!

I will definitely vote in this

I will too. thank you!

love crazy doom fans. sold my old vinyl for more than i ever thought possible.

Jumpin JePOLLaphat, who's that? -- ILM Artist Poll #108 Daniel Dumile (MF DOOM, Zev Love X, Viktor Vaughn, King Geedorah, etc.) - Campaigning, Discussion, Equivocating until 4/11

bump. bout a week left.

Anyone else who was planning to vote?

Blessed be the lord who believe any POLL RESULTS they read up on a message board: ILM Artist Poll #108 - MF DOOM

rollout going on

New album with Czarface, apparently was a delayed release cuz Covid. On first listen I like it more than the last one, much better production. Whole thing is like 25 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQlNCG5GQ2w

seems suspiciously like it could be scraps and leftovers from their previous sessions, but maybe im wrong and its totally legit. does seem odd to have held off on it for so long.

does it matter?

no, but its fun to speculate.

there has to be so many half finished DOOM projects with ppl out there

wonder what will happen to the one with flying lotus he was working on.

I dunno really. If that was the case, wouldn't "The Missing Notebook Rhymes" have been more substantial? One of them was JJ DOOM's "Pause Tape" with JJ's verse lopped off. And the trouble that project caused with people DOOM owed music to.

A lot of people feeling like there's gonna be a Madvillainy sequel but I'd be kinda surprised to see it.

xp

I thought Madlib said it was coming?

My feeling is that there's probably a lot of stuff half finished, and frankly, I'd imagine his wife and children could use whatever money can come in via new releases

guest verses from del and dmc, wow

Did he? There was all this noise about how it's "85% done" (which has been the case for like a decade) and something about DOOM's manager giving his blessing. At the moment Stones Throw can sell as much of the original as they print. I have no doubt they'll get around to some new Madvillain product but I think it's more likely to be a collection of mostly already-released stray tracks or an EP of the ones that didn't get an official release yet. It's hard to imagine there's a lot that hasn't gotten any airing at all yet (or doesn't contain verses that ended up on another thing). But then 25 minute albums are a thing now.

xp

And the trouble that project caused with people DOOM owed music to.

yeah my sense is theres probably a lot of unreleased/half-finished music around and not a lot of consensus about who owns it

Got to be some doom stuff sitting at home with his family. Impossible that there wouldnt be, even if it's just beats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3WRs-86u8g

eh so this new album is not enough DOOM and way too much Eso. Not barrel scrapings exactly but nothing revelatory or crucial either

does it matter?

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 May 2021 14:49 (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol

Now in action figure form

https://gasdrawls.com/products/mf-doom-reaction-figure-operation-doomsday?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Gas%20Drawls%20Send%20-%206%2F26%20-%20Super%207%20Focus&utm_id=01H28NJX9RE45NN3YH0GBNPY9W&tw_source=klaviyo&_kx=-gUU8M2nBeuoVqiTJhrbwDa8SqrqcZr2iZKj3OunzJc%3D.YjRtBR

Shoulda done a series of the random dudes who would perform as him

i just realized that megalon's "who you want me to be/true thugging mc..." line was a buju banton reference

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jul/06/leeds-hospital-trust-apologises-after-rapper-mf-doom-died-in-its-care?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

saw this earlier.
i had no idea re him having any connection to leeds.

Yeah i know. Wondering if he was living in the UK at the time so that he could get NHS treatment? Anyway what a sad and somewhat mundane way to go :(

so many mysteries surrounded his death - like, wasn't he supposed to have died some time before his family made it public?

this story, though... what a waste. what a tragedy.

Yeah i know. Wondering if he was living in the UK at the time so that he could get NHS treatment? Anyway what a sad and somewhat mundane way to go :(

― NickB, Thursday, July 6, 2023 1:52 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he was born in the uk, grew up and lived in the us and then was deported later in life iirc

knew he was born in london, didn't know about the deportation though. any idea why?

seems complicated but partially because paperwork was too expensive/never filed when he was a kid, and then a buncha stuff never went through as it should've when he was an adult, plus he kept getting arrested, seems pretty kafkaesque

https://pitchfork.com/features/article/untangling-mf-dooms-lifelong-struggle-with-the-us-immigration-system/

oh thanks!

Slick Rick similarly faced deportation to the UK (Jesus, where IS he?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qVJVHmWEUE

kids are alright