Here I am, thousands of miles from home, I haven't heard a rock record in some time, yet while marching down the street "Bringing on the Heartbreak" by Deff Leppard pops into my head, and I proceed t

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Please explain.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

you're drunk?

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

that would explain the Very Long Thread Title anyway

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

It's the dreaded Def Tremens.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

We've secretly switched Helltime Producto with Amateurist, let's see if you notice the difference.

Anyway, this is further proof of the sublime brilliance that is Def Leppard, eighties era.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, up to and including Pyromania, after which point they started to strenuosly suck.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I CHALLENGE THEE. Hysteria is near flawless. After that, I agree that things are somewhat unfortunate.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

No I'm not drunk!

I think Ned is about right, Def Leppard's ability to insert themselves into my brain despite a distance both physical and temporal is really quite amazing.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

they started to strenuosly suck.

I like the idea of them straining hard in the studio to suck really badly. "Hey Mutt, that echo on the cymbal still rocks a bit too hard. Can you make it more flaccid?" "OK, take 145."

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

They're like quality comfort food. *tries to play this out* Exact craftsmen. They use all their influences and then nail to then state of art production thanks to a key producer. Trying to think of what a good comparison would be.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Also I cannot hear this song without picturing the truck on the cover that record, whatever it is.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

LET'S GET THE ROCK OUTTA HEEEAAAH!

Def Lep is awesome.

Ned, how about Def Lep = Electric Light Orchestra of 80s metal?

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Who was it that hypothesized that D.L. was rock music about itself? Like it had no other content than being about it's own rockingness?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm, I s'pose Matt. I am sublimely indifferent to ELO but I can see that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

What are the lyrics anyway? "Lady, misty eyed and shady..." or something...

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Or Mutt Lange = Timbaland of 80s metal?

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

does timbaland have a "everything i do" in his future?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Gypsy, sittin' looking pretty
A broken rose with laughin' eyes
You're a mystery, always runnin' wild
Like a child without a home
You're always searchin', searchin' for a feeling
But it's easy come and easy go
Oh I'm sorry but it's true

You're bringin' on the heartache
Takin' all the best of me, oh can't you see?
You got the best of me, oh can't you see?

You're bringin' on the heartbreak
Bringin' on the heartache
You're bringin' on the heartbreak
Bringin' on the heartache
Can't you see?

You're such a secret, misty eyes and shady
Lady how you hold the key
Oh you're like a candle, your flame slowly fadin'
Burnin' out and burnin' me
Can't you see, just tryin' to say to you

You're bringin' on the heartache
Takin' all the best of me, oh can't you see?
You got the best of me, oh can't you see?

You're bringin' on the heartbreak
Bringin' on the heartache
You're bringin' on the heartbreak
Bringin' on the heartache
Can't you see, can't you see?

No! No! No!

You got the best of me, oh can't you see?
You got the best of me, oh can't you see?

You're bringin' on the heartbreak
Bringin' on the heartache
You're bringin' on the heartbreak
Bringin' on the heartache
You're bringin' on the heartbreak
Bringin' on the heartache
You're bringin' on the heartbreak

As covered by Mariah Carey as well.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm...you could almost pass these off as lyrics from a Van Morrison album track:

Gypsy, sittin' looking pretty
A broken rose with laughin' eyes
You're a mystery, always runnin' wild
Like a child without a home
You're always searchin', searchin' for a feeling

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

haha that is the greatest thing i've ever read matt, seriously (as someone who loves both d.l. and v.m.)

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm more taken with the idea of being "sublimely indifferent" than "strenuously sucking" myself.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

but the latter is alliterative!!!!

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Flying Saucer Attack should have covered the first fifty seconds or so of "Gods Of War" and dragged it out into a drone freakout.

― Schwingung (Damian), Thursday, 4 December 2003 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

no. sorry. After Pyromania they caved into the pressure and succumbed to the commands to fellate a giant, greasy cock, a task which they handily took to.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 December 2003 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex, you seriously see a huge break between Pyromania and Hysteria....I always thought of Hysteria as the natural progression of what they'd begun on Pyromania (ie hair-metal as wide-screen fussy pomp studio dramatics) (I say that as a compliment)

I could see maybe if you liked the old rock em sock em stuff maybe calling the point of suckiness after High N Dry.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 4 December 2003 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

(this is by no means a dis on old Def Lep either, I like that for different reasons)

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 4 December 2003 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I prefer the less-Americanized (i.e. pre-success) more stridently NWOBHM Def Leppard, myself.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 December 2003 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

That was me who said that, amateurist! [On a Le Tigre thread...]

Ugh. I feel so obliged to like them, but I just can't. Plus they're immune from criticism ("You don't like them? Well, you just don't get that their half-assed-ness is part of their aesthetic; you don't understand where they're coming from."). Le Tigre are an exercise in meta-music: females making music about females making music. In that regard, they're no different from Def Leppard: men making rock about men making rock. Except that Def Leppard write good songs.
-- Clarke B. (clarkeb...), February 7th, 2002.

I'm flattered you remember!

― Clarke B., Thursday, 4 December 2003 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to be with Alex on this one, but after having recently heard "Love Bites" and "Animal" on the radio, my mind is changing quite definitively.

― Clarke B., Thursday, 4 December 2003 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

who were the french def leppard?

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 4 December 2003 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Le Leppard Sourd.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 December 2003 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Trust

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 4 December 2003 03:04 (twenty-one years ago)

or Treponem Pal or maybe Air

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 4 December 2003 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

The intros to "Gods Of War" and Radiohead's "I Might Be Wrong" are almost identical.

― Schwingung (Damian), Thursday, 4 December 2003 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Le Géoppard Deff

― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 4 December 2003 10:48 (twenty-one years ago)

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