Godspeed You! Black Emperor are more than likely going to discontinue the project: happy or sad?

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I'm gunna miss them, but Explosions In The Sky seem to be carrying the torch pretty well.

Stupid (Stupid), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Erm... "the project"?

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

They have lots of projects, remember? A Silver Mount Zion, Fly Pan Am and so on. Godspeed was just another project for that whole collective.

Stupid (Stupid), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

gonna be no godspeed no more?
sad.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

completely indifferent

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, Constellation's pretty much populated by bands who've learned to nearly do Godspeed better than Godspeed. If you care, you probably won't miss them that much.

Myself, I don't. It got old a long time ago.

Xii (Xii), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

the surface noise OTM

Berkeley Sackett (calstars), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, I'm vaguely pleased about this. I find them and their ilk extremely dull.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Eh? Do have an article, or something? I'm more of a Do Make Say Think fan myself, but I can thank GY!BE for introducing me to Constellation. I'd be sad to see them go just because I'd like to see a rise from the slightly lacklustre Yanqui UXO.

Of course, that new song isn't a very good indication of anything getting better...

Alex Pittman (Alex Pittman), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Sad, even though I didn't get their last record.

Which tune of theirs was used in 28 Days Later? It worked really well, I thought.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 December 2003 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Raise Yr Fists alot....reminded me of Lord of the Rings rock music....so I'm sad I guess.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 4 December 2003 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, Constellation S/D?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 December 2003 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I really like the first couple discs. 'Skinny Fists' is the last one I have, by which point it was getting a little tedious -- quiet quiet quiet louder louDER LOUD tape snippet tape snippet quiet quiet quiet... But they did it well while they did it.

On the other hand, their behavior in interviews, etc. has done nothing to dispel the image of the Black Bloc anti-global crowd as a bunch of self-important sourpusses.

spittle (spittle), Thursday, 4 December 2003 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

not sad. constellation & co casts no spell over me, unless sleep is counted.

jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 4 December 2003 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Spittle fella said eveything I was going to say. I really hope they don't knock A Silver Mt Zion on the head before I get a chance to see them; otherwise they seem to have taken the whole thing to a fairly logical conclusion.

I do get the impression with them that when they move away from things of epic scope and grandeur they fall on their face a bit, and end up with rambling dreck like 1-Speed Bike and Re: and so forth. Hanged Up's last thing was better than I expected, mind.

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 4 December 2003 11:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, Godspeed did one thing well, and there's really no need for them to do it yet again. I have one Godspeed record, which I play every now and then, without any desire whatsoever to get another one.

Jonathan Z., Thursday, 4 December 2003 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I absolutely lost any time I had left for them at ATP last year (Shellac curated). A band had cancelled in the afternoon (Versus?) giving about an extra hour on the Saturday. Some bands ran on slightly, but no-one really exploited the spare - an extra couple of minutes tops. This also helped, as it was supposed to be a shared DMST/gybe slot (long story, the only band not invited by Shellac and allegedly forced on them by Barry Hogan) but with the spare time DMST were able to play a relatively full set on their own (about 40 minutes IIRC), giving gybe an additional 45 minutes or so - something you'd think was a boon given their love of long sets, and seeing as they'd only been given about 90 minutes, something they could use.

Imagine my surprise, therefore (and no, this isn't going to turn into a letter in Razzle...) when the full 45 minutes passed before gybe deigned to take the stage, and even then just to start tuning up. Having done so, they then left the stage again and entered singly, trying to get individual applause. Despite all this, the sound sucked during the first song (Gathering Storm), and when it didn't get any better during the next one (Song For Wanda, or whatever it ended up being called) I went up stairs to see Wire instead. Who made me wish I'd seen all of them rather than watch blatant ego-stroking by people who always claimed to be above it. And then I just felt even worse when I realised I'd missed Rachel's before Wire as well.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 4 December 2003 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)

And for reminding me how fucking ROCKING Wire were that evening, I thank you sir...

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 4 December 2003 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

So long as it's only Godspeed we lose, and not A Silver Mt Zion or Set Fire to Flames, I don't mind that much. I've always thought of them as something like a template/breeding ground for bands on Constellation I love: their records are the kind of thing I like, but I won't suffer if thre isn't another one. If they think they're gone as far as they'll ever go with the GYBE project, maybe they have.

(the true dreck on Constellation: Sofa. Lud, they're useless.)

cis (cis), Thursday, 4 December 2003 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Their studio releases are useful at times, but nobody could talk me out of thinking that the first time I saw them perform was one of the best live shows I've ever (er....sorry.....EVAH!) witnessed. It was a couple of weeks after the World Trade Center destruction (er.... sorry....9-11), and although there were no rants, or lyrics or slogans (except for "Hope"), it was very poignant. It helped that I was in the perfect headspace for it, and that the audience was seemingly all in the same headspace. I know its been vogue for a while with alot of you musicos to badmouth them (er.....backlash?), but it was a special night for me.

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 4 December 2003 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

where is this 'news' coming from anyway? And yeah, I care more about A Silver Mt. Zion and Do Make Say Think....

nothingleft (nothingleft), Thursday, 4 December 2003 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sick of Godspeed being dismissed with the 'one-trick pony' argument. A lot of jazz is head-solo-trade fours-head, but that doesn't make it boring by default, it's what they're actually playing in that context that matters. Is it because they generally use such decompressed structures? I guess it is harder to sit through something where you basically know what is coming if it's fifteen minutes long. Still, I think that what they do in the structures that they've chosen is still effective.

I get the feeling I've made this post before.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 December 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

That first album is awesome, though, a major contribution to music.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

As is the second (I file Slow Riot as an album, it's half an hour long fuxake) and a decent chunk of the third. I really think history will remember them very fondly.

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

One thing about Godspeed is they sound v. different than the bands they're compared to and/or accused of ripping off -- when I first heard them people brought up fucking Rachel's... Godspeed to me is still pretty much their own genre.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Good riddance. Rock-killers.

may pang (maypang), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

*stares*

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

The slow riot EP is the only thing you need to hear (other than the opening monologue of the first album)... and possibly the original artwork for the first LP.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I never listened to the artwork, what's it sound like?

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

hey gy!be, take sigur ros with you when you go!!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll weep when i wake from my inverse coma so somebody pull the life support already...
m.

msp, Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll miss those two songs they do: the loud one and the quiet one.

may pang (maypang), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll miss those two songs they do: the loud one and the quiet one

Two songs? I thought they were just part 1 and part 2 of that one song: 'The Boring One'?

nothingleft (nothingleft), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Two songs? I thought they were just part 1 and part 2 of that one song: 'The Boring One'?

yer confusing them with Sigur Ros.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh dear, I walked out on Wire at ATP 'cos they were so painfully RAWK (w/ a little bit of electronics, radical!!) in a middle-aged geezerish way and went to see Godspeed who, by the time I got there, were excellent - they did a big feedback burn-up at the end that was total earbleed yum

Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Nobody else even mentioned Sigur Rós but you, Eisbär (and twice now, too!). This place is called "I Love Music", right. I mean, why sing it from the rooftops at every given opportunity? So you hate Sigur Rós -- that hardly makes you original around here, now, does it?

I liked a great deal that came from the GY!BE camp (especially the first -- Mark OTM), but I know other good stuff will follow, whether the name exists or not. That's the great thing about collectives.

David A. (Davant), Friday, 5 December 2003 07:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure I'm so convinced other good stuff will turn up from them. Of the original offshoots, the first albums by Fly Pan Am, A Silver Mt Zion and Set Fire To Flames were all pretty good. Unfortunately, they've turned out (to date) to be the best records they had in them (although the second ASMZ album isn't that bad, but the third is dreadful) - perhaps none worse than the second SFTF. The other actual offshoot records (let's not confuse being on Constellation with being part of the gy!be 'empire) such as 1-Speed-Bike were pretty poor.

For me, f#... and Slow Riot... are the only gy!be releases I might ever conceive of listening to. There are some bootlegs of the songs that end up on ...Skinny Fists... that make you wonder quite how they got the album so completely wrong.

You've got me contemplating a S/D thread now...

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 5 December 2003 09:13 (twenty-one years ago)

What's wrong with Skinny Fists (seriously, I'm asking)?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 5 December 2003 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never given a shit about this band.

That's my piece.

Debito (Debito), Friday, 5 December 2003 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

What's wrong with '...Skinny Fists...', well there's a perfectly respectable single album lurking in there. Self-indulgence takes over, however, and it's full of things like 'Static Towers On The Highway' (see my other complaints about the latest SFTF for my tolerance of that kind of thing). Plus all the versions of the actual songs on it are probably the worst ones ever recorded. The song that was 'John Hughes', for example, is murdered.

In the version it ended up in it just never gets to the point - something you couldn't accuse them of performing those songs live at the time.

And what exactly is the point of 'Moya Sings "Baby-O"'?

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 5 December 2003 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

They're splitting over Iraq

http://www.nme.com/news/godspeed-you-black-emperor/34219

StanM, Saturday, 9 February 2008 17:47 (seventeen years ago)

hope they land safely

gershy, Saturday, 9 February 2008 17:50 (seventeen years ago)


"People didn't need a rock band pointing in the direction of (how the world was at that point). Maybe what they needed is some clumsy words, a presentation that was a little more human."

I imagine this being said through a crackle of static while a slow and mournful violin part begins.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 February 2008 17:56 (seventeen years ago)

I want to have an existential freakout.

Z S, Saturday, 9 February 2008 17:57 (seventeen years ago)

xpost ...then a slowly emerging crescendo that culminates in 2 1/2 minutes of triumphalism.

Still, I always thought Godspeed got a bad rap. If you take only Slow Riot and F#A#oo, and the loads of copycat bands they spawned, and ignore the name changing, pretense, and the albums that came after, they were pretty successful. If they would have named themselves something unassuming like Canadian Rhythms and left the politics out of it, I doubt they'd have a hundreth of the haters.

Z S, Saturday, 9 February 2008 18:03 (seventeen years ago)

The fourth google result for "po-faced cunts" is about GYBE.

Melissa W, Saturday, 9 February 2008 18:50 (seventeen years ago)

something unassuming like Canadian Rhythms

...that's a lateral move.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 February 2008 18:56 (seventeen years ago)

lol canadian rhythms.

s1ocki, Saturday, 9 February 2008 19:09 (seventeen years ago)

Ottawa Grooves

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 February 2008 19:22 (seventeen years ago)

Moose Jaw Breaks

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 February 2008 19:22 (seventeen years ago)

I guess I'm not surprised. I figured they'd more or less gone on hiatus until Bush was out of office as some kind of protest.

I disagree with ZS's recommendation(?) that people ignore "Lift Yr. Skinny Fists..." and "Yanqui UXO," though... They're both great records. "Yanqui UXO" really seemed like kind of a step down at the time, but I find that it's the one that I listen to most often now.

At any rate, it's a shame we'll never hear properly recorded versions of songs like "Albanian" and "Gamelan."

novaheat, Saturday, 9 February 2008 21:37 (seventeen years ago)

On the other hand, their behavior in interviews, etc. has done nothing to dispel the image of the Black Bloc anti-global crowd as a bunch of self-important sourpusses.

-- spittle (spittle), Thursday, December 4, 2003 2:02 AM (4 years ago)

Ugh, no doubt about that, though.

novaheat, Saturday, 9 February 2008 21:39 (seventeen years ago)

Remember when NME put them on the cover, even though they'd only sold a couple of thousand records here?

I thought they were trying to bankrupt their own magazine to get redundancy packages from IPC or something.

Bodrick III, Saturday, 9 February 2008 21:54 (seventeen years ago)

There's still a chance of a posthumous album... right... right...?

I, for one, am sad.

Though really I'm glad, as it leaves their legacy, in my eyes, damn-near perfect, with no chance to sully it with a lacklustre much-delayed substandard return.

krakow, Sunday, 10 February 2008 07:55 (seventeen years ago)

I like their music, but I wish I didn't know anything else about them (even though I may agree with some of their politics)

StanM, Sunday, 10 February 2008 08:46 (seventeen years ago)

r.i.p. I still need Slow Riot for Zero Kanada tho (or whatever it's called).

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 10 February 2008 17:30 (seventeen years ago)

As much as I love them, 'existential freakout' sounds way to 17 year old pot-head-esque.

mehlt, Sunday, 10 February 2008 17:39 (seventeen years ago)

The guitar on Yanqui is way stronger than the earlier stuff. The phaser and hammered delay WOW

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 10 February 2008 19:33 (seventeen years ago)

fuck steve albini with a hammer

elan, Sunday, 10 February 2008 19:34 (seventeen years ago)

This is possibly the lamest break-up in recent memory. It's as if I didn't bother to mow the lawn for five years, and then told everybody that I would never mow it ever again because plastic Hefty bags are bad for the environment.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 13:18 (seventeen years ago)

He actually wrote directly to DiS about it:

"the internet remains a refuge for lazy writing and diminishing conclusions- the statements attributed to me in this 'news piece'
have been pulled out of their original context,
and pasted benath a misleading headline,
in the name of scoring some sort of bullshit 'news exclusive'.
godspeed's interminable silence will continue into the foreseeable future,
but it wasn't the iraq war that made it impossible for us to continue functioning as an active band-
a whole host of internal disagreements and external pressures contributed to us ending our long march together.
there were 9 of us in the band,
and i expect that if you asked each member to summarize the factors that led to our current hiatus,
you would get 9 different answers.
the truth is almost always both complicated and boring,
and can't be articulated via bullet points and pull-quotes,
especially in the hands of charlatans only interested in increasing their banner-ad rates by juicing their page-hit totals..."

yrs.,
efrim

Twat.

aldo, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 13:42 (seventeen years ago)

Is he wrong?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 14:25 (seventeen years ago)

I dunno, but that's one monster haiku!

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 14:27 (seventeen years ago)

Why "Twat" aldo?

krakow, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:00 (seventeen years ago)

three years pass...

Godspeed You! Black Emperor working on new album

!!!

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 July 2011 23:28 (fourteen years ago)

Godspeed is scheduled to have a meeting about this

phew rock and roll

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Monday, 11 July 2011 23:38 (fourteen years ago)

But how will the punctuation sit?

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 12:31 (fourteen years ago)

Not unexpected, but great news nonetheless.

just call me brian (krakow), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 12:51 (fourteen years ago)

Just to link to the slightly more active godspeed thread... Godspeed You Black Emperor! - Classic or Dud?

just call me brian (krakow), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 12:59 (fourteen years ago)

Thanks Krakow

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 13:32 (fourteen years ago)

Thank you for the news! I'd been very much hoping that the re-convening of the band last year would lead to new recordings, so it's great to hear that this could well be the case.

I just wanted to link the threads up, as that one had been the site of some more recent discussions.

just call me brian (krakow), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 13:38 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah I picked the wrong one out of a search, so thanks! Really excited about it.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 13:51 (fourteen years ago)

can we start a kickstarter to get them to actually split up

thomp, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 13:54 (fourteen years ago)

here i pledge five bucks (actually five pounds)

thomp, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 13:55 (fourteen years ago)


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