Is Kelis mean to Beyonce?

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Just because Nas hates Jay-Z or are they both like "whatever".

― Solange Knowles, Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

i hope so.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Kelis is a robot!!!!

*runs away and hides under a desk*

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

;-)

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.tectonic.force9.co.uk/images/IndxBestbots.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Let's try this again, losers... can we just possibly once for one time NOT pretend that Black People were made of circuits and computer chips for ONE MINUTE!? What is it about hip hop and R&B that makes you obsessed with dehumanizing Black Wymyn? Is it because you are threatened by the SOUL of the Black Womyn that you must pretend that she has none? Is that your fantasy world perfect girl? A ROBOT GIRLFRIEND NAMED BEYONCE? YOU ARE CRAZY!!!!

― Solange, Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

i think he's referring to the interview where kelis referred to beyonce as a 'soulless automaton'

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Seriously, Solange, are you like an ILM regular that having some fun putting us all on?

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Wymyn: just like women, but ROBOTIC!

― briania, Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

What I want to know is if that's REALLY Solange Knowles posting...and why the hell would she even freakin' care what Kelis or Nas think?!

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Solange is obviously a put-on. No way could any real person be so goofy.

― chuck, Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Solange, do you like Ya Kid K?

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

technotronic wins!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Ya Kid K's got SOUL!!!!!

― Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

And yeah, I think it's really COOL when black people pretend that they're made of circuits and computer chips! Afrika Bambaataa and Roger Troutman and Juan Atkins made whole careers out that, almost!

― chuck, Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

and it's not completely unreasonable to think kelis is a robot programmed by the neptunes, anyway.

― brian badword (badwords), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

kodwo eshun to thread already

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"solange" needs to buy some gary numan records already!

and if we really want to discuss stereotypes, i would guess that the "black people as robots" stereotype is relatively less unfair and damaging than the "black as poor, authentic, real, gritty, rhythmic" sterotype cf the active verb "pretend" in Chuck's post.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

well at least you are now willing to admit that the "black people as robots" stereotype is a very real one -- and one that's worth fighting against. Thanks, Aaron! Peace.

― Solange, Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

are you suggesting that afrika bambaataa, roger troutman, and juan atkins really are made of circuits and computer chips?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Uh..not sure how my post implied said stereotype, if that's what you're implying (though maybe you're not, I'm not sure). I mean, I often like when German people like Kraftwerk and Japanese people like the Yellow Magic Orchestra pretend they're made out of circuits and computer chips, too, you know? ("Pretend" is the right verb because, uh, they're NOT, you know?)(And I think it's superstitous to believe that *anyone* has a "soul", Solange, for whatever that's worth.)

Also, I left out Mantronix. Whose records Solange should ALSO buy.

― chuck, Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

well at least you are now willing to admit that the "black people as robots" stereotype is a very real one -- and one that's worth fighting against. Thanks, Aaron! Peace.

This is maybe the greatest thing ever written.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

http://homepages.compuserve.de/JCBaumeister/Space_walk_man_black.jpg

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

WHERE DID YOU GET THAT PICTURE OF MY UNCLE LOU?????

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks DAN! It's nice to know some of this is sinking in to some of you people. WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

― Solange, Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

hahaha (re: "uncle lou")

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

go solange! i think between us we can educate some of these people, let them know this is not acceptable in this day and age

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

YES! Let's move forward! Artistic freedom above all else.

― Solange, Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)

~~fritz~~solange you need a vacation, honey.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

no what i meant chuck is that the word active verb "pretend" implies choice. that is a good thing. whether the people are or are not "really" computer chips.

i am not doing a very good job of explaining myself.

the other sterotype that is listed goes quite well with the whole ideal of "soul". but if poverty=authenticity=soul, and soul is the ideal, well, follow the lines backwards. poverty doesnt have the same ring of self-determintation as "pretending to be robots". that is why, if the robot sterotype exists, it is certainly not the most pernicious one involving (black) music.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

whoops, my finger slipped.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

so wait - roger troutman didn't have a choice to pretend to be made of computer chips?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I often like when German people like Kraftwerk and Japanese people like the Yellow Magic Orchestra pretend they're made out of circuits and computer chips, too, you know? ("Pretend" is the right verb because, uh, they're NOT, you know?)

What? Chuck you just made me really sad :(

― Allyzay, Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)

he was forced, blount

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

by the zeitgeist

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i still really likesolo star.

― brian badword (badwords), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

+ spacebar

― brian badword (badwords), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm staying well out of this one.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Didn't Def Jux have that Return of the Robots DVD? They are part of the black people are robots movement.....wait, though, the main dude is white so he's probably forcing the black folks on the label to act like robots, which is oppresive.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i knew it!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)

My mate Ben would love this.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Kool Keith is still seeing robots.

― Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Kool Keith isn't robot black people rap, he's fake Ken doll black people who are spacemen rap - at least on Black Elvis/Lost in Space.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Didn't Stargard become robots in Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band?

― Joseph McCombs, Thursday, 4 December 2003 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)

~~fritz~~solange you need a vacation, honey.

Quite.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 December 2003 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Does this mean every single discussion of Beyonce or Kelis will devolve into a discussion of robots?

TS: Beyonce and Kelis vs Robot Overlords

― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 5 December 2003 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Does this mean every single discussion of Beyonce or Kelis will devolve into a discussion of robots?

Well, it's certainly a more interesting topic than their music.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 5 December 2003 00:57 (twenty-two years ago)

alex do you have an alarm that goes off when stuff other than 80s rock is being discussed?

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 December 2003 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Does this mean every single discussion of Beyonce or Kelis will devolve into a discussion of robots?

I think the short answer is yes.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 5 December 2003 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...

Hello, why are you guys fighting over that nasty fucking ass bitch?? she's a whore and thats all she do.look at the bitch video.every fucking one of her songs.she have to wear those skipy sluty clothes.and yes am a man!!!!! she needs to shut the fuck up and stop sell sax.kelis is so mush better than her.chit you people wake the fuck-up she even thinks she's white lol.she's nothing but a nigger bitch

― beyonceisnasty, Saturday, 15 May 2004 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Skipy sluty clothes? Are you saying that the robot overlords skip about in slutty clothes?
pix plz k tnx

― Øystech H-O (Øystein H-O), Saturday, 15 May 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.comatonse.com/img/tee.gif
Ja can someone showing us the way to pretty american girl who is made of robot parts for going to the club and perhaps dance?

― Allyzay, Saturday, 15 May 2004 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

what's interesting to me here is the revelation that kelis is selling saxophones.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 May 2004 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

also when I first saw this thread, I thought it said "is kelis meant to be beyonce" which of course is a YES.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 May 2004 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Like giant-sized Micronauts, they're fitted with interchangeable parts.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 15 May 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

the interchangable part is my tongue

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 15 May 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently Kelis said Outkast were shit.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 15 May 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

no, that was ILM

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 15 May 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

No I'm serious! In the same news flash it said that Outkast were planning to release an all-rap album by the end of the year - but i don't think ILM controls a crappy video clip show on Australian tv, regardless of the weird synchronicity.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 15 May 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Clearly Strongo and Kelis are made for each other.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Saturday, 15 May 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Strongo Nas?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 15 May 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Poor Tim, always the last to know.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Saturday, 15 May 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

No wonder he hates The Black Album so much

― Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Saturday, 15 May 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"blacks as 'poor, authentic, real, gritty, rhythmic' "

surely such an awful sentiment has never surfaced on ilm; and surely not as a disingenuous counter-discourse.

― mike bott, Saturday, 15 May 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Let´s not forget Latin/Mexican robots

http://members.lycos.co.uk/spaceagepopagogo/Hayman_Electric_Front.jpg

― heroes + villains, Saturday, 15 May 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Beyonce=The Blacks= The Kafirs=Zulus=Work in Diamond Mines=Miners="Labor"=Robots=Interchangable Parts=Mass Production=Ford Motor Company=1960's Mustang Convertibles=LA Car Culture=LA Street Culture=West Coast Hip Hop=Prodigious Sampling of Roger Troutman=The Sasser Worm=Windows Culture=PC Culture=(future) personal robots=Mom's Friendly Robot Corporation=Mass Production=interchangable parts=mechanical labor=practical application of robotic technology=domestic servitude=many domestic servants in North America trace heritage to Africa=Zulus=Blacks=Beyonce (reflexive theorem)

Beyonce is to Roger Troutman as Beyonce is to Kelis.

― Faggo Strongington (orion), Sunday, 16 May 2004 06:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Back up a sec.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 May 2004 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

will we ever see ya kid k again the best and #1 rapper. i died to meet her. does anyone have some info where i can contact her...........do u read ur messages ya kid k?

― rocio prado (rocio prado), Saturday, 5 June 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

We put a cheesburger in yor sock for xmas and u slept on it, d.

― sexyDancer, Sunday, 6 June 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

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