Defending the Indefensible -- Adam Duritz of The Counting Crows

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I know.
We all wanna be big stars.
Naff dreads guy.
Go buy that grey guitar
And count some crows.

Star Hustler, Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

At least he hasn't put out a solo record (has he?).

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I tried so hard to hate this guy and his band for so many years until I heard "Mrs. Potter's Lullaby". As arrogant as it is in its length, this song is nearly impossible to deny. The winsome initial melody, the rough-and-ready instrumentation, the never-ending build; I was sold.

Unfortunately, this tune was a gateway to his melodic gifts, which are considerable. I broke down and ended up with all of the Counting Crows records, loving most of them. I even think Hard Candy is great. The title track is one hell of a Byrds/Springsteen tune.

I still hate him.

I guess this is the end of my short stay on ILM :).

southern lights (southern lights), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

don't forget to pick up your complimentary 1999 uk garage mix on the way out!

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

"Mr. Jones," "Rain King," "Round Here," "Angels Of The Silences" and uh, nothing else, are pretty decent Van Morrison/REM wanna-be horseshit. I can't hate him because he's fat and girls love him. I like that.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

not all girls, though. Thank god.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I love me some Counting Crows. From beginning to end. Every song. Every lyric. So nyah.

Oh, except for that Big Yellow Taxi Cover. Bad bad bad.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I forgot they covered Big Yellow Taxi. Somebody go rape Duritz with a plunger. Twice.

Why the fuck does everybody cover that song? It's terrible!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i like vanessa whatshernames' "bop"s on that horrible "pave paradise" song. makes me think of en vogue. when i think of en vogue, i am happy.

Felcher (Felcher), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I cannot say a single charitable thing about him/them.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

A Long December is a gorgeous little LA soft rock ballad.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Songs I enjoy on their surprisingly hard-to-hate new greatest hits CD:

2. Round Here (Bryson/Duritz/Janusko/Jewitt/Roldan) - 5:32
4. A Long December (Duritz) - 4:59
5. Hanginaround (Bryson/Duritz/Mize/Vickey) - 4:16
6. Mrs. Potter's Lullaby (Duritz) - 7:46
7. Mr. Jones (Bryson/Duritz) - 4:33
11. Omaha (Duritz) - 3:41
12. Friend of the Devil (Dawson/Garcia/Hunter) - 4:37
13. Einstein on the Beach (For an Eggman) (Bryson/Duritz) - 3:53
15. Holiday in Spain (Duritz) - 3:50


"A Long December" is my favorite, and then "Mr. Jones."

chuck, Thursday, 4 December 2003 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

That's probably more songs than I like on the Black Crowes best of CD, and less than how many I like on Sheryl Crow best of CD, for whatever that's worth.

chuck, Thursday, 4 December 2003 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i have a sneaking affection for one or two counting crows songs

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 4 December 2003 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's a really good review of them, if you actually care:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/9944/kominiarek.php

chuck, Thursday, 4 December 2003 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

First of all, I LOVE "Einstein on the Beach", and I thank Mr. Duritz for introducing me to one of my fave books, "Henderson the Rain King" by Saul Bellow, via a VH1 Storytellers special, years back.

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Thursday, 4 December 2003 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

He's not dead yet?

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 4 December 2003 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I love them, seems he always been a target to those who like a dig at someone who seems to wear their heart on their sleeve.

scottjames23 (worrysome-man), Thursday, 4 December 2003 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked August and Everything After when I was a sophomore in high school and even defended it in a car full of older hipster kids, to which this boots-and-fishnet-clad girl said, "Are you being sarcastic?" I said no. She said, "Heh, good, cuz I actually kinda like that album, too." That said, by the time I got to college, and it was on the shelves of all the hippie poets on campus (which at my school was like half the student population), I had no use for it. (Actually, I think I sold it before that.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 December 2003 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

My kinda sorta like for his high notes lurks underneath the general loathing. And "A Long December" is hooky if hatefully whiny, I guess.

(the "bop bop bop" on that Joni cover is like the Decline and Fall of Western Civilization)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 4 December 2003 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

luv "A Long December"

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 4 December 2003 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"maybe this year will be better than the last"

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 4 December 2003 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

long december is a great song, so are a few songs off the first album, and einstein on the beach was pretty good as well. he is one of those mysterious people who rose up from the bay area music scene overnight, absolutely no-one I knew having heard of him before, and the band was signed/fabricated almost immediately, it seemed (their first drummer was the husband of one of my former bosses, he died suddenly a few years ago, sad). When the first record came out the concensus 'round here (sorry) was that they were the band that the majors wanted American Music Club to be but AMC wasn't playing the game right. Anyway, everything after the second album made me cringe.

I ran into him on the street in Berkeley right after the first record came out and said congratulations and he turned away without speaking. Jackass.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 4 December 2003 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I like quite a few songs by these bastards. "A Long December" is simply amazing.
That said, I laughed when I read a caption in Q (I think) identifying Duritz as a "pineapple look-alike"

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 4 December 2003 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

MST3K gave the definite word on Duritz back in 1997.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 December 2003 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

remind me, Ned...

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 4 December 2003 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

From the I Was a Teenage Werewolf episode:

"To get rid of the alien sucking our energy from the SOL, I've got to turn into the most horrifying, disgusting creature ever!"

"He's done it! ADAM DURITZ OF COUNTING CROWS!"

*cue Mike with that simpering Duritz smile under a wig of dreads and a bad goatee flailing around and whining while the bots retch and gag*

(In an on-line chat with some of the cast later that year, the sketch was revealed to be Mike's and he has a thorough hatred of Counting Crows. Well done.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 December 2003 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

better than American Music Club

dave q, Thursday, 4 December 2003 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

horrible heresey

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 5 December 2003 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

sufferin succotash

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 5 December 2003 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw dave q has found something nice to say.

Mike Lupica (sports writer for NY Daily News) has some kind of fixation with them; it makes me question his wisdom

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 5 December 2003 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd probably agree with Dave Q (okay - I wish I'd said it first), but I honestly have no memory of what American Music Club sound like.

chuck, Friday, 5 December 2003 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

joy division with the batteries running down

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 December 2003 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

alternately: joy division with turntable on 16 rpm.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 December 2003 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I was watching them on Leno last night, trying to figure these guys out. They still seem to be playing music college students might listen to, but are so much older now. I mean, they're adults now, right? Is this what adults do, whine like he does?

Berkeley Sackett (calstars), Friday, 5 December 2003 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

griel marcus's counting crows fixation is kinda amusing

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 5 December 2003 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Part of me likes to think that someday the police will be called to a deserted industrial park somewhere in the San Fernando Valley, where they'll find a hopelessly obese and incoherent Adam Duritz, clad only in a tattered robe, actually counting dead crows.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 5 December 2003 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

hair: pretty much indefensible - allegedly the dreads were fake in the beginning. Or so the hatas say. (btw do any whiteys look "good" in dreads?)

nicking van morrison: blame the producer

"A Long December": a song anyone should be damn proud to have written and sung

working at the Viper Club as a bartender: cloying but better than whoring himself to PETA or the GAP.

Ultimate mitigating factor: sleeping with Courtney Cox and Jennifer Aniston

don weiner, Friday, 5 December 2003 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to laugh at the Counting Crows but they really are nowhere near as bad as a lot of the shit they got lumped in with in the 90's. They definitely had a few great tunes and they seemed to be in it for the right reasons. I'm not a fan but I will defend them nowadays. Spin Doctors too.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Friday, 5 December 2003 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

And before anybody starts whining: "Two Princes"/"Little Miss Can't Be Wrong" DEFINITELY > joy division with the batteries running down

chuck, Friday, 5 December 2003 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

dreads are still fake, or at least mostly.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 5 December 2003 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Counting Crows are, were and always will be absolute crap of the foulest order.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 5 December 2003 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Alls I know is, I used to think it was cool the way he worked Picasso into a pop song. Now I cringe.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 5 December 2003 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

(But maybe not as much as the way Chicago worked Picasso into Daley Plaza. Yikes! What is that horrible cold steel insect-violin thing?)

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 5 December 2003 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"dreads are fake" thats funny.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Friday, 5 December 2003 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you guys saying he wears a weave?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 5 December 2003 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

He is definitely going bald. And o so fat.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 5 December 2003 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.accountantjobschicago.com/photos/picasso01.gif

"LAY OFF, HATAZ!!!"

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 December 2003 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38205000/jpg/_38205816_crows_pa_150.jpg

OMG, Adam Duritz = Heavy D!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 December 2003 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Cf:
http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGPORTRAITS/music/portrait200/drp000/p014/p01479o6a7f.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 December 2003 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Not even on the level of "ke$HA likes Void."

how's life, Thursday, 25 July 2013 10:05 (twelve years ago)

A ROCKER WHO REFERENCED DYLAN IN HIS FIRST HIT LIKES THE BEATLES' REVOLVER STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES

it itches like a porky pine sitting on your dick (Phil D.), Thursday, 25 July 2013 10:33 (twelve years ago)

OR RUBBER SOUL IT'S 6:30 AM WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME?

it itches like a porky pine sitting on your dick (Phil D.), Thursday, 25 July 2013 10:33 (twelve years ago)

yeah this is completely stupid. real fucking punk rock to police who's cool enough to wear a Ramones shirt.

some dude, Thursday, 25 July 2013 10:36 (twelve years ago)

I'm not doubting that Adam Duritz likes these (and countless other) bands, I just wish he'd cut it out, as I find him to be something of a lamentable clown. It's not a declaration of war, it's just my own observation. Being "punk rock," some dude, has nothing to do with it.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 25 July 2013 15:25 (twelve years ago)

Moreover, some might find ME to be something of a lamentable clown. Fair enough. It's a silly post. Let's all not take life so dead seriously, shall we?

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 25 July 2013 15:26 (twelve years ago)

For Adam Duritz, the perfect summer song is "Save It For Later" by the English Beat. For me, the perfect summer song is the NPR segment where Adam Duritz describes his special summer memories of the English Beat. I remember where I was when I heard it, just driving down the road, the sun was going down. Then I heard it again an hour or so later on the 6:00 repeat of All Things Considered. And then the weird realization right afterwards that that was it. That was the end of the segment. That was the last show it was ever played.
http://m.npr.org/story/111495148

how's life, Thursday, 25 July 2013 15:45 (twelve years ago)

Adam duritz must be stopped from shopping at urban outfitters.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 25 July 2013 16:07 (twelve years ago)

I even think Hard Candy is great. The title track is one hell of a Byrds/Springsteen tune.

I still hate him.

otm southern lights

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 July 2013 16:12 (twelve years ago)

i think "adam duritz should stop wearing devo shirts with cargo shorts" is an entirely defensible position.

slugbuggy, Thursday, 25 July 2013 18:32 (twelve years ago)

http://media.heavy.com/post_assets/2009/12/1516/1260913457_adam-duritz.jpg

I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Thursday, 25 July 2013 20:34 (twelve years ago)

i saw that pic yesterday. its a cracker

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 25 July 2013 20:37 (twelve years ago)

Kevin smith w dreds

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 July 2013 20:40 (twelve years ago)

his hair was v influential on The Weeknd

some dude, Thursday, 25 July 2013 20:43 (twelve years ago)

we're sure the tattoo is not supposed to be the guy in the lower right?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3d/GordonBarenakedLadies.jpg

henry s, Thursday, 25 July 2013 21:19 (twelve years ago)

pretty sure its a tat of this
http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2007/02/27/previews/Adam%20Duritz-SGG-045918.jpg

at least he got the goatee beard bit right hahaha

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 25 July 2013 21:35 (twelve years ago)

this is like when louis sees billy ray valentine driving around in his mercedes in trading places and the thing that sticks in his craw the most is that billy ray's wearing his harvard repp tie, as if.

band t shirts as emblems of tribal affiliation or whatnot that you have to earn, as opposed to saying "i like this or that cool thing."

also reiterate my "walking t shirt" concept. duritz himself is a permanent artifact of a particular scene with all its associated vibes and the only way he can jam the "pick-up hacky sack circle" emanations is through some other cultural signifier that transmits contradictory information. but as long as he's recognizable as adam duritz he can't be anything else. like if it were just some random wite dreads guy in a ramones shirt i'd just think "ok, sometimes you like other things besides marley or widespread panic" but with duritz or similar it's "no, you can't be just some dude anymore."

slugbuggy, Saturday, 27 July 2013 21:06 (twelve years ago)

ty

"no, you can't be just some dude anymore." (some dude), Saturday, 27 July 2013 21:21 (twelve years ago)

i demand the right of some dude to stay some dude and never to be anything other than some dude!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 27 July 2013 21:23 (twelve years ago)

nope, too late

http://95.211.1.197/~rons/image.php/photo.jpg?width=633&height=570&cropratio=7:5&image=/pics_upload/BDRoM9ACAAAE5s4.jpg

"no, you can't be just some dude anymore." (some dude), Saturday, 27 July 2013 21:29 (twelve years ago)

"pick-up hacky sack circle" emanations

my guess is you've never hacked.

how's life, Saturday, 27 July 2013 21:39 (twelve years ago)

didn't mean to disparage hacking. it's just one of the things i loosely associate with wite dready guys. here is a picture of a hacky sack that looks like adam duritz:

http://westcoastjuggling.net/store/images/hacky.jpg

slugbuggy, Monday, 29 July 2013 00:12 (twelve years ago)

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1jct61/i_am_musician_adam_duritz_from_counting_crows_ask/

diamonddave85, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 16:27 (twelve years ago)

the duritz dread-perhaps-wig situation is real fascinating to me

hello :) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 16:47 (twelve years ago)

i for one appreciate some shirt policing

R'LIAH (goole), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 16:49 (twelve years ago)

no kidding, does he own any t-shirts that aren't in the white rock dude canon? it's like he found a list in rolling stone or something and used it to buy t-shirts

carlos danger zone (mh), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 02:37 (twelve years ago)

yeah, it's just a moderately varied assortment of regular guy stuff, like he's blending in instead of standing out. i figure it's a way of remembering who he was before he became that counting crows guy, like the way guy pierce's tattoos function in memento.

slugbuggy, Thursday, 1 August 2013 18:18 (twelve years ago)

no, an assortment of regular guy stuff would include shirts of bands that aren't in the canon, or some local bands, or even (god forbid) unpopular bands

carlos danger zone (mh), Thursday, 1 August 2013 19:51 (twelve years ago)

I can't identify the shirt between Joy Div and T. Rex...anyone?

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 1 August 2013 22:03 (twelve years ago)

It's the Cars logo (as I pointed out).

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 1 August 2013 22:14 (twelve years ago)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4ORqUb3hDIU/UF-9eG1hm0I/AAAAAAAACNY/Rx0L3zdCC0M/s1600/The-Cars-logo.jpg

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 1 August 2013 22:15 (twelve years ago)

Ah, didn't notice you labeled 'em, thanks.

Dunno if I've ever seen that shiny logo before! Maybe on some belt buckle back in 1980 or something, can't remember.

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 1 August 2013 22:55 (twelve years ago)

no, an assortment of regular guy stuff would include shirts of bands that aren't in the canon, or some local bands, or even (god forbid) unpopular bands

― carlos danger zone (mh), Thursday, August 1, 2013 3:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is true but in my formulation duritz already continuously represents a non-canonical, unpopular band; he's a walking counting crows t shirt. if he wants to overwhelm those vibes and point back to an idea a person that's any different then any shirt he wears has to be pretty heavyweight and broadcast a broadly received signal. he might like miracle legion as much as rem as far as i know but that t shirt would be inscrutable to most.

slugbuggy, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:50 (twelve years ago)

ten months pass...

the dread wig is so off the chain

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 19:43 (eleven years ago)

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 19:48 (eleven years ago)

Why is he punching his guitarist in the face

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 20:28 (eleven years ago)

#Amphlitheatre #Beach #Concerts #Counting Crows #Daniel #Daniel and the Lion #Flordia #Lion #Music #Saint Augustine #St Augustine Amphlitheatre #St Augustine Beach #Toad and the Wet Sprocket

some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 01:30 (eleven years ago)

one month passes...

http://gawker.com/happy-50th-birthday-adam-duritz-from-gawker-and-aarp-1614526160/all

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Friday, 1 August 2014 17:14 (eleven years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bt9TT8vIYAAFR9o.jpg

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Friday, 1 August 2014 17:14 (eleven years ago)

;a;sha;;asldhk;lfkldfaskl;aflesw

mattresslessness, Friday, 1 August 2014 17:17 (eleven years ago)

dave pirner turned 50 in april where's his cover

da croupier, Friday, 1 August 2014 17:22 (eleven years ago)

vedder joins the club right before xmas!

da croupier, Friday, 1 August 2014 17:23 (eleven years ago)

Cover headline for him will be STILL ALIVE

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 August 2014 17:58 (eleven years ago)

elderly cob nobbler swingin' on the flippity flop behind a counter in a small town

balls, Saturday, 2 August 2014 02:21 (eleven years ago)

lol

brimstead, Saturday, 2 August 2014 02:27 (eleven years ago)

four months pass...

Lol Duritz, courtesy of my friend Caryn Rose on Twitter:

Caryn Rose ‏@carynrose 6m6 minutes ago
Adam duritz is at my gate to Chicago, talking about Bob Dylan really loudly

Caryn Rose ‏@carynrose 3m3 minutes ago
Now Adam is talking about U2 and the show last night and acting like he and Bono are BFFs.

Caryn Rose ‏@carynrose 3m3 minutes ago
He is also getting everything wrong about the concert last night. JUST WAITING

Caryn Rose ‏@carynrose 2m2 minutes ago
Now he's talking about Bruce and it's better that I can't really hear him

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:22 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

https://images.bwwstatic.com/upload10/435585/tn-500_goldboywm10168396.jpg

brimstead, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 06:00 (nine years ago)

http://www.forcesofgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/tumblr_ltvg1h8bH31qemxfbo1_500.jpg

a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 12:15 (nine years ago)

one year passes...

He razed the parking lot and put up a loft more like.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 02:10 (seven years ago)


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