FiReWaTeR TONIGHT in SNOW-CHOKED NYC!

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So, the boys are supposed to be playing the Bowery Ballroom this evening, but word from the lads themselves last night in the wee hours on their snowy trek back from a gig in Boston didn't bode well. Hopefully, they made in back in one piece. I'll be gutted if they don't play this evening. Anyone else going?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

don't know how bad the snow is up there, good luck. let us know how it is. I wanted to see them in Baltimore this week but I just felt like crap that night and wasn't up for it.

Al (sitcom), Saturday, 6 December 2003 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Shite, the picy dissappeared. Must....rectify...

http://www.echosiberia.com/fire05.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

It's snowing over there? Not fair!

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

It's snowing over there?

We are buried in God's Dandruff.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

That is so not fair! It's just cold and cloudy over here. It was raining earlier too.

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Aja. You need to get into Cop $hoot Cop and Firewater right away. Download tracks from Cop Shoot Cop here and report back....

http://thepolywog.com/copshootcop/mp3/index.html

http://thepolywog.com/copshootcop/disc_img/cop_pieceman.gif

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I am not downloading tracks off the computer.

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't talk back to me, young lady.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

That's it. To bed at once, without any supper!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

why are they called firewater?

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 6 December 2003 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

`Cos they drink like fish.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Bless'em.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Firewater = Bastardized Native Americanism for whiskey.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I am not going to bed. It's only around 12:00 noon here. Way too early for supper.

You can't talk back to me either. You hypocrite!!

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.grudge-match.com/Images/CHiPs.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 December 2003 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

NED!!!!!!

I told you I didn't want to see any more of those pictures.

I type faster now. 19 WPM.

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Please don't soil another of my threads with buddy cop pictures, Ned.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned put those pictures on your other threads too, Alex?

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I just like my threads to retain some semblance of dignity, that's all. In the same way I don't like Killing Joke being brought up on threads devoted to, say, Alanis Morrisette or Bon Jovi, I'd generally prefer any threads devoted to Cop Shoot Cop and/or Firewater not be contaminated by images from, say, "CHiPs" and/or "Hill Street Blues". Pictures from tv serieses like "Bewitched" or "Love American Style" or "My Favorite Martian" or "Outer Limits", however, would be just fine.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Like so...

http://www.usatoday.com/life/gallery/wizards/bewitched.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm listening to a live version of "Night Time".

There, does that make you feel better Alex?

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

http://dvdscan.com/outer_1.jpg

There you go space private.

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

`Cos they drink like fish.

Do they drink on stage?

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, they do. Copiously. Just heard from the man himself. As of right now, the show is going ahead as planned.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Wonderful.

What does Copiously mean?

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.dictionary.com

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/f/images/firewater-psycho.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.magnetmagazine.com/photos/firewater.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, thanks Alex.

What's that last picture?

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.rockpalast.de/bilder/bizarre02/firewater.gif

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that yours?

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.cleanersdepot.net/Product_Catalog/Chemicals/Pro_s_Choice/Cleaners/Tfirewater.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok Alex!

Is it still snowing over there?

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.mano.de/tourcldr/bandlogo/firewate.gif

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.dking-gallery.com/pix/Hess/9804.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.derekhess.com/images/gallery/merch_thumbnails/firewaterthumb.gif

This is what it's doing right now. Only with snow.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Must you post all those pictures?

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

As a matter of fact, YES I MUST!

Now, let the madness continue....

http://www.manateebound.com/features/images/firetod.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Who is that?

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

That's Tod [A].

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok. Who is that?

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

http://thepolywog.com/copshootcop/photoalbum/images/CSC_in_Japan_2.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.firewater.tv/news/image.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry about you're work station. What are you going to work as now?

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.johnhouston.org/users/c2photos/sitenew/fullimages/firewater018_f.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Stop it Alex!!!

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

http://epguides.com/DempseyandMakepeace/cast.jpg

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I will not. It's my thread, after all.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Not you too RGJ!!! I'm not blond.

Another band with 'fire' in their name.
http://www.sunnydayrealestate.net/images/studio/willjernate.jpg

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

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Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

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Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Now, just what is that?

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Is this just a ridiculous photo thread now?

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.vielklang.de/artists/firewater/pix/2002/firewater-420.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.safetbear.com/stopdrop/pour_water.gif

Aja (aja), Saturday, 6 December 2003 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

dig firewater and curious to hear the cover stuff live, but going to see tv on the radio at mercury instead.

notfazed (notfazed), Sunday, 7 December 2003 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)


Amazing show. Herewith the review I posted to the Firewatercircus:


Another bright, sunny morning with a hangover. Where's that coffee?

Alright, suffice it to say, I was well beery by the end of last night, so I have to type all this out now before it vanishes down the rabbit-hole. There's going to be a lot of needless details herein, but I can't write these things any other way, so sorry in advance. An amazing evening, it started off rather inauspiciously. Having only the vaguest of plans to meet my pal/colleague John Flowers "somewhere around the bar around 9pm," I left the comfy confines of my warm home (and my slighly disgruntled wife), and departed into the gaping maw of the elements.

After all that discussion of crowd-staving, show-thwarting blizzardry, by the time I popped out my door around 8:15, the onslaught of God's Dandruff had lessened significantly to a light-but-perpetual dusting, no longer a torrent of white blowing in one's face. Trudging down a nearly deserted Bowery in the snow, I was instantly reminded of an evening about twelve years back, when I was doing a similar snow-choked trek to go see Cop $hoot Cop at some sqaulid Lower East Side dive. Despite all the gentrification, NYC in the snow still looks the same, and it's timelessly lovely and cinematic. Turns out, however, that I was a little hasty in my departure, and found myself in the vicinity of the Ballroom of Boweryness well ahead of schedule. After some atmospheric strolling around ("Shine On..) Elizabeth Street, I popped into "the Pioneer" Bar for a minutes-killing pint of Stella Artrois, only to get sucked into watching the Iron Man Competition on the wide-screen. One beer later, I sauntered over to the Bowery Ballroom.

One of the first on the scene, I grabbed a seat at the bar to monitor the door. In short order, in walked a fetchingly brunette Jeanette (or, for those of you who've never met her, HNRY), with her admirably game mother Pat in tow. Milling about were various GvsB'ers (Scott and the other one), though I didn't engage them. Next in came bounding erstwhile Firewaterer and full-time Botanican, Paul Wallfisch. Mustachioed nogoodnick and fellow TIME Boozedesker, John Fletcher Flowers arrived and assumed his natural barside stool. HNRY worked the gathering crowd and unearthd Rudy Watkins, Qwak (I think I'm spelling that right) and a young lady whose name escapes me. Also corralled was Jim "Stop Calling Me Elvis" Everett, with his implausibly classy posters for sale (I bought one, and spent the latter part of the evening using it to club John Flowers). More amiliar faces, lovely Michelle and her Fiance appeared next, basking in the glow of enaged amore, and the ceaselessly frenetic Liz (resplendent in eye-catching Kommunizt chapeau). Officially Missing in Action: Heather, Jo, Regina, Jim Formerly in KoP, Kathy Tango Twin Number Two). After schmoozing barside with various other JetSetters and the like, I couldn't help noticing one or another opening band had commenced.

Poked my head upstairs, but was not impressed with the onstage proceedings, so repaired back to the bar. Incidentally, the Firewater shirts this tour are *MAGNIFIQUE!* Loosely based on the famous Bob Gruen photograph of John Lennon, it features the legend "FIREWATER*NYC" in a simillar font to the NEW YORK CITY shirt Lennon sports (only with sleeves) and comes in black, gymnasium grey or blinding orange (I opted for the latter). I complemented some seemingly random punter on his Foetus t-shirt, only to have him swing around and say: "Congratulations on the baby, Alex," which practically blew a new part in my hair. The Lurkers' numbers swell.

After another beer, John and I decided it was time to adjourn upstairs to prepare for Firewater. Spotted Rob Sheffield in the crowd chatting with some doe-eyed lass about the sonic wonder of Calla. No, I didn't assault him. Calla (if it is they who were soiling the stage prior to Firewater) are yawnsome shoegazery of the most crushingly ennui-enducing variety, and that's being as nice as I can muster.

Next up, Firewater, and by this time, I'm already grinning, but that probably had more to do with the beer consumption. No orange shirt for Tod, for those of you keepin' score of such things, but he did sport a strategically placed tamborine around his right boot, which I thought most groovy. To the listing strains of "El Borracho," the band assumed the stage. Herewith the set list, swiped from the stage apres encore......

"El Borracho"
"Snake-Eyes & Boxcars"
"Bourbon & Division"
"Storm Warning" (a very fitting song for the evening, given the snow)
"The Man with the Blurry Face"
"Dark Days Indeed" (which takes on a positively excorcism-like quality live)
"When I Burn this Place Down"
"Too Many Angels"
"Some Strange Reaction"
"The Vegas Strip"
"Ponzi's Revenge"
........it was to the opening notes of this song that I officially exited Planet Coolster and roughly trod to the very front to engage in some dignity-free frugging with my fellow Circusfolk.
"So Long, Superman"
"Another Perfect Catastrophe"
ENCORE:
"The Man on the Burning Tightrope"......which had me headbanging as if it was being performed by Black Sabbath.
"Knock'em Down"
and a most feral, newly furious rendition of "Dropping Like Flies".

As many other folks have pointed out in many other live reviews, there are some radical re-inventions of some songs here. This incarnation of Firewater boasts a zealous horn section that breathes new life into some old favorites, and it is WELL clear that Tod is having a ball up there. I can't speak for everyone, but I thought the band were in massive form, and I had a great, goddamn time. Do not pass up an opportunity to see this tour!!!!

Afterwards, milled around back at the bar for a bit. Didn't get a chance to chat with Tod afterwards, but didn't spot him downstairs. It was getting later and later, and with John needing to find a way back to Brooklyn and m'self having a pregnant wife at home (wisely not waiting up), we decided that it was time to split.

So, there ye have it.


Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 7 December 2003 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I complemented some seemingly random punter on his Foetus t-shirt, only to have him swing around and say: "Congratulations on the baby, Alex," which practically blew a new part in my hair. The Lurkers' numbers swell.

woah!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 7 December 2003 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

That wasn't a lurker, that was an FBI agent.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 7 December 2003 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

damn, nice setlist, now i'm feeling even worse about missing the show. are they planning on more east coast touring anytime soon?

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 7 December 2003 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it still snowing over there Alex?

Aja (aja), Sunday, 7 December 2003 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

No idea about future tourdates, but there were rumours. Check out www.firewater.tv for details.

No, Aja, it has stopped snowing.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 7 December 2003 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh well. It stopped raining over here.

How are you feeling Alex? I'm feeling miserable.

Aja (aja), Sunday, 7 December 2003 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a fever. Lowest it's been is 99.6. I haven't had an appetite. I've also been coughing and had a sore throat all day. I don't think I'm going to be going to school tomorrow.

Aja (aja), Sunday, 7 December 2003 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

How am I feeling? Well, I'm feeling fine. I'm in a perpetual state of bug-eyed shock & awe, but all my motor functions are working, and my odd symptoms of last week are long gone (when I was briefly convinced that I had some virulent strain of meningitis.)

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 8 December 2003 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm at home today. Feeling better than yesterday. I think I can actually eat something. I need to take my cough medicine.

Aja (aja), Monday, 8 December 2003 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Glad yer feeling better. I, meanwhile, am at the office....wishing it was time to go home. I'm hungry and in the mood for a nap.

Go buy a Firewater album.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 8 December 2003 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't finish my homework so I'd better start doing it.

Aja (aja), Monday, 8 December 2003 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

After taking that cough syrup I think I'm coughing more than before I took it.

Aja (aja), Monday, 8 December 2003 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Now my temperature is below normal.

Aja (aja), Monday, 8 December 2003 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

My mom insists I take tomorrow off too.

Aja (aja), Monday, 8 December 2003 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Aja, with all due respect, I think your illness updates warrant their own thread on ILE. A thread devoted to the live Firewater experience is not the place for such information.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 8 December 2003 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Whatever Alex. You should thank me. You do want more answers on your threads don't you. I'm saving this thread from having to be revived.

Aja (aja), Monday, 8 December 2003 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Besides, sick people always need to complain about their illness. It's one way they get better.

Aja (aja), Monday, 8 December 2003 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

An Alanis Morrisette song is on the radio.

Aja (aja), Monday, 8 December 2003 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)


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