Jim Dickinson - S&D

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Was about to buy one of his live records yesterday with Chuck Prophet on guitar but bought the Gang Gang Dance CDR instead. Did I pass up a good one?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 7 December 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Search: Dixie Fried, his stuff with Mudboy and the Neutrons (what I've heard, anyway). I haven't heard his latest, Free Beer Tomorrow, but it's been uniformly praised in these parts.

Destroy: his kids' (N. Mississippi Allstars) last couple- though their first one, Shake Hands With Shorty, is really listenable.

Will (will), Monday, 8 December 2003 06:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Will, you might also like The Word, which is his kids with John Medeski and Robt. Randolph, it's as jammy as I can handle.

Second Dixie Fried, nominate It Came From Memphis, Vol 2. (haven't heard vol. 1) and check out the book that the CDs were compiled to accompany.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 8 December 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

"Free Beer" is good, esp. "Ballad of Billy and Oscar." I agree, The N.M. All Stars have turned into something truly heinous.

Something worth searching out, from Shangri-La Records in Memphis probably, is the "Beale Street Saturday Night" LP featuring Mud Boy doing "On the Road Again" in a version even better than the one on "Dixie Fried." Great audio documentary of Beale.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 8 December 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

also search: Known Felons in Drag by Mud-Boy -- more listenable than any of Dickinson solo or Beale Street Saturday Night (which is probably a better historical document than something for casual listening) or Money Talks (Mud-Boy record from '90s).

Records he produced (Pleased to Meet Me, Third/Sister Lovers, Toots in Memphis, Start With the Soul, etc.) >>> Records he made.

chris herrington (chris herrington), Monday, 8 December 2003 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

RE: The Word- I'd like to hear that. I saw Randolph a while back and he was immensely enjoyable. I'm with you, though. I think it would pretty much top out my "jam" quota...

And Chris is right, the records Dickinson produced are usually killer. I'll definitely check out that Known Felons in Drag.

Will (will), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Both the Dickinson solo records are pretty inconsistent; there are great moments, but as with many things Memphis the reality don't live up to the myth. Despite what Nick Tosches or Stanley Booth might write. Fun to read about, not as much fun to listen to. "Like Flies on Sherbert" is an exception--as far as I'm concerned that one and Big Star's "Third" are JD's finest moments as producer/general blowhard. I used to see Mud Boy and Neutrons in the Bluff City...they were a bit embarassing actually, altho Lee Baker was sure a great guitarist.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't heard FBT, but listening to Dixie Fried, I got the feeling it would've been more fun to BE there than it was to necessarily just hear it.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

hurt & mann both otm (except that "Like Flies on Sherbert = Dickinson's finest moment as producer" bit)

Dickinson was at the Sex Pistols show in Memphis and claims that the band revolved around Sid musically -- that everyone played off him. He also told me that his favorite concert was a Guns N Roses show he took Luther and Cody to when they were in high school (junior high?) because "the sound was so bad that it was exciting. All you could hear was the bass and an occassional 'fuck'"

Dickinson = entertaining BS artist.

chris herrington (chris herrington), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 23:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Dixie Fried quite a bit, but it took a while to grow on me. I like the more shambling tracks, like "Wine", "Dixie Fried" and "O How She Dances". The slower stuff doesn't work so well. He's not much of a crooner. It ends up reminding me of a Ringo Starr album. The band is good though; some nice steel playing from Jeff Newman on there.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

five years pass...

http://www.memphisflyer.com/memphis/for-the-benefit-of-mr-dickinson/Content?oid=1580262

He's having medical problems so there's a big benefit happening

curmudgeon, Friday, 7 August 2009 03:43 (sixteen years ago)

i live in north mississippi and dude's a legend! his work on bob dylan's desire is underrated (maybe).

akaky akakievich, Saturday, 8 August 2009 14:41 (sixteen years ago)

wow, r.i.p..

flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 15 August 2009 17:25 (sixteen years ago)

ugh, what a couple of days! RIP. Was just listening to Dixie Fried -- well worth seeking out. His cover of Dylan's "John Brown" is truly demonic. Obviously had his hand in some of the best music of the last 40 years or so ...

tylerw, Saturday, 15 August 2009 18:48 (sixteen years ago)

but stayed devoted to memphis throughout. a real hometown hero type.

flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 15 August 2009 18:53 (sixteen years ago)

RIP. sad news.

amateurist, Saturday, 15 August 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)

wow 2009

teabaggers, birthers, flat-earthers (will), Saturday, 15 August 2009 18:57 (sixteen years ago)

nice interview here: http://www.furious.com/perfect/jimdickinson.html

tylerw, Saturday, 15 August 2009 19:00 (sixteen years ago)

RIP; dude was involved in some classic music. I've never heard Dixie Fried but I hope to soon.

deep olives (Euler), Saturday, 15 August 2009 19:11 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, Dixie Fried is great. Haven't heard his more recent solo work though. Another record he was involved in that I dearly love is Ry Cooder's Boomer's Story ...

tylerw, Saturday, 15 August 2009 19:12 (sixteen years ago)

back in 2005 I virtually had front row seats for a special Memphis/Mudboy revival night that Robert Gordon put on at the Barbican, w/ Dickinson, Sid Selvidge, the great Jimmy Crosthwait on washboard, Tav Falco, Jody Stephens, Mississippi AllStars etc etc. A wonderful show, and although Jim was very heavy and obviously not in the best of health even then, there was nothing wrong w/ his singing or piano playing. Bobby Gillespie and Jason Pierce came on at the end, and although there was something gross in that, there was something sincere abt their appearance too - a sign of the special affectation that Brits have long held for Jim Dickinson and his music, stretching all the way back to the Byrds. RIP.

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 15 August 2009 20:02 (sixteen years ago)

Unfortunately the performance Dickinson did in William Eggleston's video piece "Stranded In Canton" is nowhere to be found on the internet. I can't remember what song he plays, just that it's drunken and great.

I love so much of his music. All the Dixie Fliers stuff (there's a great Varese Sarabande CD of all their sessions with Bettye Lavette), Mudboy & The Neutrons (the couple of tracks they did on Sid Selvidge's second LP are amaaaaazing), Big Star 3rd, Pleased To Meet Me... and Dixie Fried is such a tremendously great record. I've even enjoyed a lot of his recent stuff, especially Spectrum Meets Captain Memphis...

Hatch, Saturday, 15 August 2009 21:10 (sixteen years ago)

R.I.P.

Anyone heard the Curse Of The Alphastone record he references in the PSF interview?

Spiritualized was funny because the thing that brought that guy to me was so obscure - I did a skinflick soundtrack called Curse Of The Alphastone - and I've noticed that all of the Spacemen 3 have used the term "Alphastone" or mentioned it in the press. Where they heard it, I don't know but - Jason Pierce for sure - had obviously been tremendously affected by this one piece of music that I did. I don't think that he got what he wanted from me but he had gone about constructing the music in an entirely different manner than I had. I doubt that my mix will ever come out, he wanted an electronically affected mix, that's what his heart was in. When I did ...Alphastone, I was trying to make a fucking record for $1,500 and I had some drum loops from The Bar-Kays, some horn parts and I started putting crap on top of it, it was the only thing I could possibly do! *Laughs* That's what house music sounds like to me! I don't know, the simplistic aspect of it is very seductive but I haven't yet heard anything that's talking to me. I mean, pop music is based on inane repetition but, to me, hypnotic repetition has to be performed, it can't be electronic or synthesized.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 15 August 2009 21:48 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g69labQKuuU

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 15 August 2009 21:52 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.zebraranch.com/images/Jim_&_Keith.jpg

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 15 August 2009 21:54 (sixteen years ago)

(and thank god he replaced those awful harmonics with his piano playing)

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 15 August 2009 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

ugh - dang 2009 is harsh huh? ... kind of 'the' memphis music pro that all musician's respect and love - RIP ...

BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 15 August 2009 22:37 (sixteen years ago)

Got to see him, Luther and Cody in an acoustic trio called Gutbucket. Very laid back, lots of fun. RIP.

Hugh Manatee (WmC), Saturday, 15 August 2009 22:41 (sixteen years ago)

Anyone heard the Curse Of The Alphastone record he references in the PSF interview?

yeah, i heard that; it's on the 'spring poems' cd of various stuff he collected a few years back - is good, kinda porno with flailing horns. haven't heard it for a while. do not get the thing upthread about it being perverse that those guys were on stage with him? i was at the hi records night from that season and always regretted not seeing the memphis guys; apparently dickinson started with O HOW SHE DANCES.

anyhow, sad, he was a great guy & real character. one of those guys who could use the word motherfucker in so many different ways, like about a piano part or about aretha franklin but in a nice way

the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Sunday, 16 August 2009 02:35 (sixteen years ago)

Memory playing tricks -- Gutbucket was DDT playing acoustic, and Daddy Dickinson sat in as a 4th on this particular occasion... I remember Luther finishing a solo on one song and Jim leaned forward and said "Makes a daddy proud..."

Hugh Manatee (WmC), Sunday, 16 August 2009 02:47 (sixteen years ago)

worked at square books in oxford, ms where i watched him perform every thursday on thacker mountain radio. he led the house band, the yalobushwackers. great great dude.

akaky akakievich, Sunday, 16 August 2009 13:00 (sixteen years ago)

whoah fuck

RIP

go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 August 2009 23:46 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

Shared by Big Star & Ardent on FB today, Holy Shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om5uVvIMM2s

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

the klitz! awesome.

tylerw, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

listening to Like Flies on Sherbert and Dixie Fried back-to-back is a cosmic experience that enhances my enjoyment of both (somewhat uneven) albums.

administratieve blunder (unregistered), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

"new" album coming out in July
http://www.jambands.com/images/2012/05/08/35535/clip_image006-353x.png

tylerw, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

two years pass...

According to Oxford American: This month, Omnivore Recordings reissued a forgotten Memphis classic, a kind of conceptual compilation called Beale Street Saturday Night, produced by Jim Dickinson in 1979.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:10 (ten years ago)

100 great records from Memphis

a related thread

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:11 (ten years ago)

was just checking this out: http://www.oxfordamerican.org/magazine/item/555-the-search-for-blind-lemon

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:14 (ten years ago)

I need to read that whole thing. Its long. This bit was fascinating:

Just outside the door in the alleyway, four black men were playing music. A four-string tenor guitar, a violin, a man tapping a washboard with drumsticks, and a man singing and thumping a string tied to a broomstick and run through a washtub. They were making the strangest music I had ever heard. The men were dressed like field hands or hobos. There was a white couple jitterbugging in the alley acting drunk, as the tall thin man with the washtub bass sang, “Come on down to my house, honey, ain’t nobody home but me.”

He laughed and went down low on the broomstick and shouted, “Yeah, yeah, yeah,” and laughed some more. I was hypnotized. It was like being hit over the head. Never in my short life had I heard anything that so moved me. It was like music from heaven, yet these men were clearly not the angels described to me in my mother’s church.

After the one song, my father put a dollar bill in the coffee can in front of them and made me leave. But I carried the words and music with me. I can hear it now, more than fifty years later. After that experience, other things in life just did not seem important, only finding that magic music.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:49 (ten years ago)

yeah this is great...
What did you think of the tape?” I asked.

“Great, man! Great. The record comes out Thursday. Chet Atkins tried to buy it. It’s a hit.”

“Record?” I choked. “That was a demo.”

“Oh, man, you could never do it that bad again,” Bill said.

“Bill, you have no idea how bad I could do it,” I said, with all my heart.

“What’s that playing bass?” he asked.

“That’s a washtub and a clothesline tied to a broom stick,” I answered.

“A rope! A rope!” Justis shouted. “I went all over Nashville trying to EQ a rope!”

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:55 (ten years ago)

so this memoir hasn't actually been published, right?

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:56 (ten years ago)

in full, i mean

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:56 (ten years ago)

yeah idg why this is appearing now, what's the deal?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:19 (ten years ago)

To celebrate the rerelease of this album and to further distribute the good gospel of Jim Dickinson, the Oxford American is pleased to present Dickinson’s “The Search for Blind Lemon,” which appeared in our 2013 Tennessee Music Issue.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:09 (ten years ago)

Just finished Man Called Destruction, Chilton's (incredibly good, sad, disturbing, etc) bio, and Jim's parts are down the line fantastic. Such a way with words and stories and myth-building/breaking. I might have to listen to more of his music one day. This thread can help point me where to start.

andrew m., Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:34 (ten years ago)

Dixie Fried, Like Flies on Sherbert

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:35 (ten years ago)

yeah dixie fried is classic. need to check out the memphis blues festival thing.

tylerw, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:36 (ten years ago)

Anyone heard the Curse Of The Alphastone record he references in the PSF interview?

can anyone dig this up...? v curious to hear it

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:41 (ten years ago)

what I said goes for Alex's solo stuff and his other projects post-BS too. So yeah, need to check out FoS and other stuff as well.

andrew m., Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:41 (ten years ago)

http://therobertgordon.com/books/it-came-from-memphis/

read this book too, if you ever get a chance to see the unreleased video & film clip collection Gordon put together in support of the book, see that too

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:42 (ten years ago)

kinda surprised Dickinson and the Cramps never worked together, given the Chilton connection

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:49 (ten years ago)

they did!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqg0YVyieMw

tylerw, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:49 (ten years ago)

xp That book has been on my too-read list, as has Tav Falco's Mondo Memphis stuff. Think he's done Vol 2 of that by now?

andrew m., Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:56 (ten years ago)

wait waht tyler what is the story with that!

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:01 (ten years ago)

I thought I had all the early Cramps stuff

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:01 (ten years ago)

Wiki says : recorded a one-off single ("Red Headed Woman") with The Cramps in 1984

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:06 (ten years ago)

yeah that's all i know! heard it on some homemade cramps rarities comp a million years ago.

tylerw, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:14 (ten years ago)

whoa stop the presses, a Cramps record from 1984 that I haven't heard

sleeve, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:19 (ten years ago)

hmm the single is not on Discogs but this comp has it:

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Rockabilly-Psychosis-And-The-Garage-Disease/master/340231

sleeve, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:20 (ten years ago)

on youtube i think

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:21 (ten years ago)

x-post

Curse of the Alphastone sdtrk mentioned here, but have never heard it

http://koti.mbnet.fi/wdd/jimdickinson.htm

FAN CLUB FC 064/NR 761/FC 064CD

JIM DICKINSON: DELTA EXPERIMENTAL PROJECTS COMPILATION, VOL.2: SPRING POEMS (LP/CD)
(a collection of songs from the motion picture soundtracks arranged and conducted by James Luther Dickinson: The Great Big Fish a) Beale Street Green b) The Saucers Are Landing c) Delta Getaway / The Curse Of The Alpha Stone a) Cross Talk b) Skin It Back c) Velvet Woman Painters Of The South (Ol' Miss Center For Study Of Southern Culture) a) Campton Races/Catfish Blues b) Beautiful Dreamer Southern Dust (University Of Texas Films, Austin TX) a) Hose Job b) Choke The Chicken c) Death Is A Fat Cop Down a) Max By The Tracks b) Live Bait c) Brass Monkey; cd-reissue with 'Vol.1: The Blues')

1990

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:39 (ten years ago)

four years pass...

His book is just yarn after yarn after yarn, with so many names flying in and out for a paragraph or two, it's hard to keep up. But then for a few years there he's playing on Spirit in the Dark or Wild Horses or Flamin' Groovies or with someone I'd never heard of let alone heard before. He ends more than a couple asides with "But that's another story" and it's a bummer those didn't make it in, too. Worth picking up.

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 02:40 (six years ago)

Interesting. Will add it to my list of books to read

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 14:00 (six years ago)

Great thread, hadn't seen it before. Also JD on the main Big Star and Chilton threads o course. Mentioned these 2017 releases in my Nashville Scene ballot comments I always add these imaginary categories):

Related Genealogically As Well As Musically Hon. Mention:
North Mississippi Allstars: Prayer For Peace, James Luther Dickinson: I’m Just Dead, I’m Not Gone: Lazarus Edition (also a Related Reissue)
North Mississippi Allstars wheel Dad through the Afterlife and vice-versa one more time, with bonus pepper candy encores. They also provide strong support for Rev. Sekou and themselves, on two albums (incl. the Rev.'s Related Top Ten In Times Like these) where the personal and political and tropes and rhetoric and blues and gospel and other strands of history and right nows are always ticking and clattering and pumping, and he’s the one with the compelling voice and eye.
Dad rules his own album, natcherlly, more than ever with the added tracks. Not great but worth streaming.

dow, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 17:40 (six years ago)

one year passes...

Listened to his book through my local public library over a two day marathon binge. Really fantastic.

trip maker, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 18:02 (five years ago)

Updated xpost It Came From Memphis came out in November, editorial thing on Amazon says yeah you get Elvis and shit, but the emphasis is on the singular achievements of Alex Chilton, Jim Dickinson, Furry Lewis and wrestler Sputnik Monroe. This is a book about the weirdos, winos and midget wrestlers who forged the rock and roll spirit, unwittingly changing the fabric of America. Music liberated that Memphis audience, and the world followed.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71VEPxZCJIL.jpg

dow, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 21:54 (five years ago)

Also, another Gordon book, Memphis Rent Party, has stuff about Dickinson and Chilton--dunno if he recycles any of it:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81EIppBYjvL.jpg

dow, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 22:00 (five years ago)


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