What's your favourite filterdisco track?

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I love filter disco. There are many great tracks, but my favourite is still:

Triple X - "Feel the same"

what's your favourite?

― Rudolf (Rudolf), Monday, 8 December 2003 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know that one.

Mine always was DJ Falcon's remix of La Mouche by Cassius, but it hasn't aged amazingly well.

Another possible fave is Daft Punk's remix of Mothership Reconnection by Scott Grooves. Bangalter/Falcon's-Together also, though I guess it's not full on filter disco.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 8 December 2003 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "filter disco" and how does it differ from conventional disco?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 8 December 2003 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

the same as filtered coffee differs from normal coffee obviously.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 8 December 2003 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

so you don't know then?

― jed (jed_e_3), Monday, 8 December 2003 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i have often wondered this too.

― jed (jed_e_3), Monday, 8 December 2003 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Filter disco has bits where it sounds all muffled like it's being played in another room and then BLAOW! back it comes in, full power.

I really like Cassius' "24 Hours" at the moment.

― Nick H (Nick H), Monday, 8 December 2003 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Ronan you don't know Triple X? ye gadz, it's a gem

'filter disco' refers to modern house tracks largely based on a sampled vocal hook of a 70s pop, soul, funk, disco or power rock track that has been put thru various filters to produce a glorious wash of sonic euphoria. add 909 to taste. Daft Punk are credited with establishing this as a bona-fide sub-genre tho they were not quite the innovators (certainly making good use of improved technology at that time tho) - everyone from Armand Van Helden to Rhythm Masters to Stretch n' Vern to Joey Negro was at it in the mid0late 90s - however it is typically associated with the French.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 8 December 2003 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

hard to pick one but i'd probably say Archigram's 'Carnaval' now - previous favourites were Armand's 'The Funk Phenomena', anything by Braxe & Falke (including Stardust) and Daft Punk's 'Fresh'

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 8 December 2003 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

the sound is created through one sample or riff put to different settings and sometimes layered against itself or used several times, it's a question of how much of the melody you allow to play at a time and how much of the bass aswell as the volume of the sample/riff itself, I think even that brief description makes it clear that it is different to older disco. The technology used is totally different for a start, even if the vibe or feeling is the same.

The fact that it's Alex asking does make the coffee answer the best one to give really though.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 8 December 2003 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post oops.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 8 December 2003 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I like my description best.

― Nick H (Nick H), Monday, 8 December 2003 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

It's probably my least favourite music style in the whole world ever.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 8 December 2003 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

hooray!

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 8 December 2003 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

My favourites have been mentioned, but also like:

"Turn-a-round" (Phatts and Small)
"Cassius 99" and "My Feeling for You" (Cassius)
"I Feel Good Things for You" (Daddy's Favourite)
"U Don't Know Me" and "Flowerz" (Armand Van Helden)

― s woods, Monday, 8 December 2003 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

So, that bit in "Around the World" by Daft Punk....does that qualify?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 8 December 2003 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Yup. Pretty much every early Daft Punk song uses the gimmick.

― s woods, Monday, 8 December 2003 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

So, is this really a viable term or an ILm concoction?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 8 December 2003 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a viable term--it was being circulated in dance mags not too long after the first daft punk album (or maybe before--as someone mentioned, they didn't invent it, but popularized it).

― s woods, Monday, 8 December 2003 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

It's pretty viable, as descriptive as it comes (= music with filtered disco loops).

― Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 8 December 2003 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The 'filter' applied is a lo-pass filter: it discriminates against the high range frequencies and emphasizes the low end ones, thus giving it that muffled, slightly wonky feeling. I once called it the sound of being trapped in a sewer; and the filter rolling off is the sound of the sewer lid slowly being opened.

― s woods, Monday, 8 December 2003 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

The DJ I was helping out w/cubase-operating duties used to be an epic cheese trance head, w/several releases on 12", but he got totally into filter-disco-loop music, like religiously - this is the future, the only music that counts etc. I remember week after week w/him automating control curves for the filter cutoff frequency of some plug in he'd scammed, and EVERY WEEK, he'd listen to what he'd done the last week, and proclaim it wasn't quite right, and spend the entire session doing it all over again. It drove me mad. Eventually, I brought in my Frostwave resonator which I think Cassius actually use/d, and he couldn't even get the filter sweep right w/that!! A little desktop analogue filter w/actual physical controls on it!! I don't think he ever released anything again. gah.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 8 December 2003 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

To me it always sounds like you're outside a club, and somebody is slowly opening and closing the door at random

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 8 December 2003 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

But Pash, that's where the fun's at.

It's surely running its course by now, but some decent shiznit rolls around now and then. Recently: 'Sex and Sun Part III' by Aloud.

Others, like the Buffalo Bunch - 'Buffalo Club', plus Daft Punk and Roule's output - basically the aforementioned - are more or less the epitome of the filter stuff, which is why there's a heavy French association. Phoenix may be relevant here too. And 2 favourites I couldn't live without are 'I Feel For You' by Bob Sinclair and the Lisa Marie Experience's 'Keep On Jumpin'.

― Barima (Barima), Monday, 8 December 2003 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i rate Aloud, their mix of Modjo's 'What I Mean' espesh - not much filtering on that tho. i think 'Funk Phenomenon' is the real deal because not only is it shutting the doors and opening them again at a nice steady rate, it also turns out the club is actually inside an enormous washing machine and someone's just switched the dial to '4'

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 8 December 2003 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Filterdisco was the electro house of 1998 and 'Music Sounds Better With You' its 'Satisfaction' (though I really prefer 'Bucci Bag'). The Italians are the new French too.

― Barima (Barima), Monday, 8 December 2003 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

no the French are the new French! i tip Croatia for next year tho.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 8 December 2003 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

So is "Satisfaction" really as defining as "Music Sounds Better With You"? Are we going to have 5 years of scuzzy basslines cut-up to fuck? If so, coo-el.

― Nick H (Nick H), Monday, 8 December 2003 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

all of my favorites have been mentioned :( ... except dave clarke's "the compass"!

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 8 December 2003 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought of using 'Loneliness' but Benassi is clearly superior to Tomcraft, if vaguely limited to a trick repertoire of one.

― Barima (Barima), Monday, 8 December 2003 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i dunno, i got sick of Benassi pretty quickly but the Tomcraft track has rebounded somewhat - that signature two-note thing is great

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 8 December 2003 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Daft Punk 'AerodynaMITE'

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 8 December 2003 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Good trick though.

― Nick H (Nick H), Monday, 8 December 2003 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Tomcraft rebounded on me enough to buy it last week. The other mixes neatly sidestepped the regret issues.

― Barima (Barima), Monday, 8 December 2003 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I have an old Gene Farris 12" that's totally awesome, I think it predated the filter disco craze, but it is a chicago house record that's based around a disco sample that has filter sweeps.

http://www.discogs.com/release/2069

maybe it was just part of the craze, discogs has another release w/ DJ Sneak mixes.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 8 December 2003 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not totally familiar with this genre either. Would 'music sounds better with you' be considered it's biggest hit?

― pheNAM (pheNAM), Monday, 8 December 2003 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

okay, can anyone recommend a good comp? bonus if it's a mixed comp. because everytime i hear this stuff i feel like i have to have it, and digging around for random tracks on soulseek isn't gonna cut it.

― arjun (arjun), Monday, 8 December 2003 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"MY HOUSE IN MONTMARTRE"!

followed by: "Crydamoure Presents: Waves" vols. 1+2, though you have to be more of a fan of the form to get into those two.

the first is unmixed, the crydamoure comps are mixed.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 8 December 2003 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Needin' you: David Morales

― paulhw (paulhw), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Armand Van Helden - Flowerz
Daft Punk - Digital Love
that awesome Wrath of Zeus song from Waves #1
the Daft Punk Mothership Reconnection remix
Pnau - Hard Biscuit
Etienne de Crecy - Am I Wrong
Armand Van Helden - Conscience
Daft Punk - Muzique

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 02:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's a newer track that's pretty good: ComboStar "In my soul"

― Rudolf (Rudolf), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 07:05 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah, and an older favo of mine: Phats & Small "Change"
(now ripped off again by Room 5 with their "Music and you". Wonder where that loop originally came from....)

― Rudolf (Rudolf), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 07:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I love, love, love this kind of music. I just didn't know there was a name for it until now. So it's basically the term one uses for French house whether it's made in France or not then, right? :)

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 07:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I just always thought of it as my favorite gimmick in French house, ha.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)

there was a track called 'faithless' by a guy named 'fantomas' that came out a while back that was really great in the filter-disco way. It was on the sourcelab #3 comp and the Respect is Burning #1 comp (both french dance music comps) and got decent play, but as far as I can tell, the guy who did it didn't release much anything else. It had a great hi-hat line in it though.

― tylero, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 07:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I pick the DJ Sneak one of "Jungle boogie" off the "Track Assassin" ep, can't remember what it was called.

But, euch, I really can't stand this style anymore. I think Subliminal killed it for me...

― Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Blu Mar Ten 'Ir-On-Ing'

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Bah Subliminal are killing everything lately but it's not hard to ignore them, they never did it as well as the others anyway.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

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