Missy E suXoR cuz she has no flow
Pop reeXoR cuz it has no live skillz
Yet rock roXor cuz it's not about RULES (man) but abt expressing yrself...
― mark s, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Is there a contradiction here?
(Ans = yes but I am too big a fuckwad to tell
you how haha)
― mark s, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Yes there is, and it smells.
― DG, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
The third premise is false. The fact that 99% of people believe it
doesn't make it true.
― dave q, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Proof of rock's propagandist intelligence - that 'third premise' has
been widely disseminated as disinfo to trap the unwary (artists
included)
― dave q, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
so what ARE the (unspoken) rules? (and if they're unspoken how are they propagated)?
― mark s, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Unspoken rules -
A)'Distance', 'perspective' from one's
creations must be maintained. Artists who fall afoul of this rule
never get out of the garage and often turn to being acoustic
singer/songwriters. Propagated by critical apparatus that analyses
text in greater depth than texture.
B)Political didacticism
strictly taboo. Downside is alot of grandstanding waffle, but this is
acceptable sacrifice in interests of long-termism, (or 'extended
commercial longevity' to put it crassly). Falling afoul of this rule
is almost unbelievably idiotic given geopolitical attention span of
audience but some still manage to do it.
C)SOME level of
competence of mathematical rules governing generation of sonic
material definitely required. 'Amateurism' is the siren with many
voices, that are changing all the time to entice crap poets. I don't
care how many fans of the Swell Maps or Jad Fair or Hasil Adkins
insist on their idols' utter ineptitude, on some level these artists
MEANT for their stuff to sound like that, and accessing that level of
thinking is completely alien (not 'too difficult', just so rarefied
as to not worth considering) to most people, which is why everybody
in the world isn't 'rock'.
D)Individualism (or commercially
speaking, 'uniqueness' - having a 'schtick' basically), sure - but
the trick is to temper it with the knowledge that individualism on
its own isn't enough, and to be SEEN to temper that knowledge. Even
if somebody reaches stadium level, once they forget this rule they're
no longer rock. In fact they're no longer anything. (See my bilious
screed re Jacko.) How much your output must relate to a 'community'
is variable, as long as you know it's there.
― dave q, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)