is it natural to hate music?

so is there a categorizable difference between registering disappointment as anger/hatred and just spewing bile over something? could the latter be explained away more generally as disappointment in mankind blah blah blah?

narcissism of small differences to thread - all music is loveable by someone, if you hate it you're making a statement about your relationship to it.

Having said that, I think Horace's second post seems most OTM on this board. It's not so much that people seem to hate the music as they do the musicians. And though I used to hate many musicians, I just can't justify why I did that. Maybe I'm just older now, but it's like, all these people are doing is creating music, and though their music doesn't speak to me at all, many people out there really love what they have to say, and maybe it's these songs that allow some to forget the bullshit that's going on in their lives. And then I come along and hate the band just because I think they make shit music and I think they shouldn't be popular, even if I've never read an interview with them?! seems weird.

I will say that once I read an interview with some bands, my views may change. AFter reading an interview with the singer from the Vines, I was amazed at how cliched and moronic he sounded. Ditto for Ryan Adams.

a) irritating music that is literally unavoidable for me -- i.e. my year in the mailroom subjected to the worst pop the 1960s and '70s had to offer; (irritation exponentially magnified via the fact that it soundtracked total drudgework). Fuck Rupert Holmes and his pina coladas.

b) albums where artists I like completely drop the ball and fuck up.

c) superficially and usually temporarily, stuff that I'm unfamiliar with or insufficiently in Pop Dork Love with that is big-upped by people who simultaneously or shortly before/after have been talking massive amounts of shit about bands I am in Pop Dork Love with. (i.e. "[hip-hop artist I have not familiarized myself with yet, possibly starting with "Lil"] is all right, at least he's not mf doom or some other wack motherfucker trying make rap into the flaming lips!!")

If people hated music based on a perception of it's quality then that ropey local band you heard on Friday would be reviled. But it doesn't work like that. Their friends think they are quite good for just being in a band and everyone else ignores them.

Music that hardly anyone likes is seldom hated. Music that is only liked by people who are unthreateningly different is seldom hated. Few people nowadays "hate" Dean Martin because their grandmother likes him, although a previous generation did because they were slightly more anxious about being mistaken for the type of guy who liked Dean Martin.

Which is why the archetypal hate-inspiring music is a band like Coldplay. They get a good press, and the guy next door, who actually has the nerve to think he's one of the cognoscenti, likes them. Whereas you are hip to the fact that they are crap.

It's the narcissism of small differences. With luck it will fade with time.

"People Who Like All Kinds of Music to thread!"
"If I truly liked EVERYTHING, I wouldn't know who I was. "

It's very hard for me to think of some kind of music I really don't like, but that's exactly the kind of person I am. I try to get an interest in something that I don't think I would like.

One thing that does make me hate someone's music is when I honestly think that the person making it (or the fans) is an asshole, hypocrite or moron (not just an act), but even then If I put that aside and listen to the song I can find something in it I like.

The other thing that would make me hate a song is being annoyed by it. For example it being a very catchy and annoying song, or just repetition of hearing it. But still I look at these kinds of songs as an opportunity to try and ignore it or change myself so it doesn't annoy me.

But also with liking everything. I try to find and focus on only what I like the most, and kindof ignore or occasionaly look into something that I haven't come to like a lot yet.

d) decent bands that are overhyped and overpraised ... leading to reactionary hate as a result of that (unwarranted) hype and praise

btw, i thought this was going to be a thread about people who hate music in general. has anyone ever met someone who didn't like ANY music? my dad comes close--and the only three bands he likes (blood, sweat & tears, cream, CCR) he likes because of totally non-musical reasons (i.e., "it's a classic," "they had really great chops," "they had positive lyrics"). he also likes classical music because he can safely fade it to soothing background noise (and, i suspect, because it makes him seem more sophisticated and rich).

I thought so, too. I've been e-mailing this girl I met recently, and I noticed that she never seemed to respond to anything I said about music I was listening to or writing about. So I finally asked her what kind of music she likes, and she said "a little bit of everything." Which is a fine answer (I mean, I could say that, too!), if somewhat vague. But then she said, "I was a band geek in high school and would just listen to whatever the director put on while I was hanging out in the band room." I wasn't sure what this meant, and I didn't ask her.

Why hair metal?

I mean, I would agree that hair metal is extremely naff, lame and completely lacks style. But comparing it with nazi punk is absurd.

A bit hostile against gangsta rap putting it in the same category as nazi punk too (obviously nothing should be compared with nazi punk), although at least gangsta rap is certainly not a good example for the kids always...

Yes. All other forms of music never display any of the above traits.

Get one fucking clue.

...but generally, I'm way more about loving music than hating it. With the exception of a select group of artists, I don't enjoy spitting flames at all. People pour so much effort into making music that it seems stupid hating them for it. At least they're trying... it could be worse; they could be apathetic.