clipse - hell hath no fury

well, the people who've been accusing the neptunes of being in a holding pattern beatswise are gonna be vindicated here. most of the tracks are simple combinations of the acoustic guitars in "like i love you" with the pingpong rubber bullet sounds from "caught out there". one of the later tracks has some nice oriental plucks, there's not a whole lot of the curtis mayfield vibe of "lord willin"

in a way i'm happy with it, though - most of it is the clipse album i wanted the first time around. there's nothing as eerie as "grindin" or "what happened to that boy", definitely nothing as anthemic as "when the last time" but the general quality of the tracks is pretty high.

i find myself agreeing with marcello's assessment of 2003 as hip-hop's worst year in recent memory, judging from this and what else i've heard so far it seems like 2004's not going to be much better for novelty, though i'm not worried about finding tracks to enjoy.

...

Oh hell.

i think they're very underrated in every category. and they sound best over just the plainest neptunes beats, just generic neptunes beats, 'comedy central,' 'cot damn,' whatever else. 'grindin' and 'when the last time' sounded out of place almost and 'what happened to that boy' was someone else's record.

do you have a tracklist?

i agree that they're underrated, and i with you on the point about "plainest neptune beats". i could listen to plain neptune beats for the rest of my life i think, even if they all sound like "change clothes". though i don't mind when they come up with something as unbelievably hot as "grindin", etc.

if they sound different it's that they sound a little more intense, a little more serious this time around. it's a dark album.

oh another thing! unless i wasn't listening closely enough there aren't any guest spots on this one, either.

I third the sentiment that clipse work really fantastically over really plain Neptunes beats. I frequently (if not all the time) think "Ego" is my favourite Neps tune ever, and a great deal of that is because of how wonderfully Clipse ride the groove.

Pusha T in particular sounds differeent, he's dropped the whole nasal thing. Malice sounds pretty much the same.

I've heard that they've put much more work in to this album, as "Lord Willing" had a bunch of mixtape and freesyle verses just cut in over the beats, the new album is going show us a more focused Clipse, and the cuts are going to sound more like "real songs", whatever that means.

Judging by "Pussy" they've become much more "rap" as well, as on "Lord Willing" they keep talking about how they're not really rappers, but drug dealers, hustlers etc. But don't make no mistake, they are still to fucking kool for rap:

"I'm not these rap kids, wit childish antics
Who make diss records, who rock hat backwards
These are higher stakes, this is not average weight
This is not pinching penny's bitch, this is carrot cake"

---Malice on "Pussy"

Everyone should check out the lyrics on "Pussy", not many rappers put togheter sentences as they do, and the metaphores and similies is definitly off the fucking hook:

"They say the Lord closes windows, to open doors
Nigga don't make me open yours
Seen hearts beat through, open sores
Subliminal rap shit, so immature, that's why I ignore
Punchline niggaz on front time, silly hoe shit
He who questions I is unfocused
Copperfield flow yes! I'll make careers disappear
Like hocus - pocus - no joke, it's Push'"

----Pusha on "Pussy"

I saw someone mention that "Lord Willing" had no guests on it, that's not right, Jadakiss, Styles P and Jermaine Dupri are all on the album, as well as Roscoe P Coldchain and Faith Evans.

I've also heard that they're going to use other producers on the album, I have no idea who.

-Cast-Ro

so it looks like it's coming out in late march (24th?) ... i got it off one of you lovely ilxors ...
well, the people who've been accusing the neptunes of being in a holding pattern beatswise are gonna be vindicated here. most of the tracks are simple combinations of the acoustic guitars in "like i love you" with the pingpong rubber bullet sounds from "caught out there". one of the later tracks has some nice oriental plucks, there's not a whole lot of the curtis mayfield vibe of "lord willin"

in a way i'm happy with it, though - most of it is the clipse album i wanted the first time around. there's nothing as eerie as "grindin" or "what happened to that boy", definitely nothing as anthemic as "when the last time" but the general quality of the tracks is pretty high.

i find myself agreeing with marcello's assessment of 2003 as hip-hop's worst year in recent memory, judging from this and what else i've heard so far it seems like 2004's not going to be much better for novelty, though i'm not worried about finding tracks to enjoy.

-- vahid (vfoz...), January 26th, 2004

Comes out on Halloween apparently. A bunch of songs from it leaked, and they're all ACE."Wamp Wamp," "Ain't Cha," "Mr. Me Too" and "Chinese New Year" ... shaping up to be an excellent record.
-- The Brainwasher (teignmout...), August 6th, 2006.

aaaaahahahahaha

it might just be b/c the new Jay-z was so hyped and then ended up coming waaayy short, but this is heads above any other album this year, including King, Fishscale, and the parts of the Kidz in the Hall album that is really good.

I was expecting the singles to be heads above the rest, which wouldn't have been saying too much, but this album is it

teh laek

One leadoff non-hit single that is 'decent'...and loads of internet hype? A mixtape that, in mixtape terms, came out ages ago?

Also, in my unschooled and oh so humble opinion:

One leadoff non-hit single that is crazy great? A pure fire mixtape? A debut that, sans two club joints is a stone cold and remarkably prescient classic?

-- deej.. (clublonel...), November 16th, 2006.

fixed.

political unrest, stabilize society...YES!

guys ive been reading this thread with one eye closed cause i'm drunk and trying to keep text in focus but that haveing been said

NEW BOARD DESCRIPTION

im the bakers man

god i fucking hate "teach me how to dougie" and its forerunner "my dougie" the fact that it comes from the lineage of dance song sequels

― first time ~fruity swag~ poster (zorn_bond.mp3), Friday, August 20, 2010 10:29 AM Suggest Ban Permalink
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come on, this is, like, how black pop ~works~

man, wtf at all these sequels to "the twist"

i mean its not that i don't get it

i just hate instructive dance song lyrics

"sliiiiiiiiiiide to the left"
'FUCK YOU'

"do the tighten up"
'FUCK YOU'

"now lean back"
'FUCK YOU'

"let me see your tootsie roll"
'FUCK YOU'

"first i lean to the side like my leg was broken"
'FUCK YOU'

"do the mashed potatoes"
'FUCK YOU'

"lean wit it, rock with it"
'FUCK YOU'

so obv I can't make any definitive decision after one listen but I certainly like Lord Willin' a lot but don't hear a huge diff between the two albums in either department (I mean yea there's differences but ya know not like landmark ones). I don't know which one is my fav yet, but y'all made it sound like liking HHNF better is like thinking Mobb Deep's Murda Muzik is better than The Infamous....

i am a barrel of fun at wedding receptions xp

k i've given Lord Willin' a gazillion listens in the last few days, love it, but I still prefer HHNF. sorries

actually I'm flip flopping on this one after listening to HHNF again. oh well I love both.

rev don't be mean to archie bell :(

ha, i was just poking fun at zorn

btw...(i'm confused about who u are zorn)

but y'all made it sound like liking HHNF better is like thinking Mobb Deep's Murda Muzik is better than The Infamous....

they're both good, but preferring HHNF does seem a little strange. its best songs are up to lord willin's standard, but there's a fair amount of downtime in between. something i had to admit when trying to defend my love of HHNF in some year/decade poll thread or another...

Big Hoos the OTMarker

yay!

i told hoos that by trying to not use hoosisms so as not to give himself away as zorn bond, he pretty much just ended up reading like a rev sock

brothers from another mother

i like that nu-hoos shares his opinions more freely

i told hoos that by trying to not use hoosisms so as not to give himself away as zorn bond, he pretty much just ended up reading like a rev sock

― J0rdan S., Thursday, August 26, 2010 4:30 PM Bookmark

hah

Oh my god push just STOP

looool. who is more revolting pusha or wale? pretty close at this point imo

wrath of caine is a very poor outing. and wale may have outdone push on that feature track. all just echgkk. but not in the good way

i really wanna listen to malice's (no malice's) christian rap mixtape :3

might be fun to have a poll for most embarrassing push moment. playing second fiddle to tyler the creator def up there

You should totally do that poll

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah really though

just stumbled upon this, was waiting for more of the no malice to drop

he's... gotten sharper since clipse imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSQWtMijNqY

Yeah I mean a lot of my problem w push is that 80% of the time in clipse I was checking for malice - but had to wait through push. And push has gotten WORSE

I can't get that link to work ok my phone

Here's another song

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=iWOF4MsH-qo&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DiWOF4MsH-qo

Mal still has it

haha made me almost open my bible

i find myself agreeing with marcello's assessment of 2003 as hip-hop's worst year in recent memory, judging from this and what else i've heard so far it seems like 2004's not going to be much better for novelty, though i'm not worried about finding tracks to enjoy.

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:07 PM (seventeen years ago)

Funny seeing this with the hindsight that in a matter of weeks Kanye would make his debut on The College Dropout and Madvillainy would be out a month later.

I put on Hell Hath No Fury for the first time in a while - maybe years - and it was quite the trip down memory lane. I guess it's no surprise it sold poorly, and I don't even recall much advertising or marketing behind it. The only reason I knew about it was the critical praise given to it, and it was the first time I knew who the Neptunes were. This is still my favorite work from all concerned - to this day, whenever I hear news about Pharrell I think of this album.

this was the first time you’d heard of the neptunes?

First time I heard them by name, yeah! I knew the previous hits they produced, but I wasn't looking at credits. I wasn't amassing a collection of records, just listening to the radio.

Apologies if someone’s already posted about the new album, out 7/11, on one of the many other Clipse related threads

https://pitchfork.com/news/clipse-announce-let-god-sort-em-out-first-new-album-since-2009/

I thought of starting a fresh thread for this, but someone else can do that and get yelled at for it 🙃

First single “Ace Trumpets”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JQ2FE1IvQk

Sounding as good as ever

pretty good yeah

KAWS album art is lame tho

Yellow diamonds look like pee-pee

― chicken jockme (Pusha T), Sunday, June 1, 2025 4:40 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Sounding as good as ever

― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Sunday, June 1, 2025 4:44 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

pretty good yeah

― flopson, Sunday, June 1, 2025 6:50 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol @ pronouncing wi-fi as wee-fee for the rhyme.

lol whiney. i think we all can agree that malice has the better verse

New single's good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URlPXepBZdo

where was this Pharrell the past decade