What's to hate about Kid Rock?

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I mean, shit, I ain't about to buy dude's records or nuthin,' but seems to me he's a perfcet hybrid of Diamond Dave and Hank Jr, totally aware of himself and seems to really enjoy what he's doing. Certainly entertaining. Why do music geeks hate him (and don't cite his mainstream-ness as a reason, with all the rampant Missy worship running unabated around here)?

― roger adultery, Monday, 15 December 2003 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

What's not to hate about Kid Rock?

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 15 December 2003 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

...didn't we just have this thread?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 December 2003 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

he's not a cowboy!

― Al (sitcom), Monday, 15 December 2003 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

He's been boring as fuck lately. He pulled a goddamn Sea Change. His DJ does southern-rock better than him. All valid reasons to be annoyed. And if Devil Without A Cause was your cup of tea, it's reason to hate (I only heard Devil once and the non-singles didn't grab me. But I'm withholding judgement until I hear it again).

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 December 2003 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, I've just been questioning some of my formerly punkrock ideas about mainstream music, and the pompous 'goes without saying' school of thought. Since recently discovering, in a moment of humbling clarity, how talented Rob Zombie is, I've learned to differentiate between the truly, indefensibly awful (Staind, Creed, latter-day Limp Bizkit, Dave Matthews, Insane Clown Posse) and the stuff that's actually decent (in some cases great) despite the fact that it's popular (System of A Down, some others I can't think of now). The Kid is just my latest curiosity - his music is bad, but no worse that Linkin Park's (and that "Crawling" song was kinda catchy), and after watching his xmas special, i have to wonder if his only crime against we ILM geeks is that his music isn't reverential to Sonic Youth's legacy or whatever. So?

― roger adultery, Monday, 15 December 2003 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

A lot of ILXors like his Devil Without A Cause stuff.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 December 2003 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

If anything the problem with his new stuff is its too damn reverent.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 December 2003 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate him because of his aesthetic, and the particlar mess of values he embodies. That is to say, the following things put me off: sleaze, meanness, petty rage, spite, misogyny, crudeness, sex, smarm, arrogance. Yeah, basically I hate rock'n'roll. I haven't heard his new one as I stay away from everything the man does. Is it any different, apart from genre?

― Sean M (Sean M), Monday, 15 December 2003 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

He's an idiot. What more needs be said?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

AC/DC are idiots too; does that make them automatically hateable?

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

AC/DC are not idiots.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

have you read their interviews?!

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

haha

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Of course.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I give up, then!

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)

AC/DC may not be rocket scientists, but they're savvy enough to know how to stay in the game for a long stretch. Moreover, they're humble guys....unlike Kid Rock.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)

kid rock hasn't exactly dropped off the face of the earth yet alex, unless you have access to fiddo's crystal ball.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Alright then...new terminology. Kid Rock is a DICK!. Defend that.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, now I'M confused...

― roger adultery, Monday, 15 December 2003 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

No he hasn't, but I doubt he'll have as long a run as AC/DC have enjoyed.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

haha - i remember an interview with angus circa 2 live crew trial where he decryed their music as 'crass' and the interviewer was all 'um, what about 'giving the dog a bone'?' and angus went all 'it's a metaphor innit' and how his mom thought it was actually about giving the dog a bone.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:25 (twenty-one years ago)

rock stars in being dicks shocker!

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:25 (twenty-one years ago)

the question isn't whether they're savvy or humble, it's about whether they're rocket scientists. and you say yourself they're not. so OK then.

xpost

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Meanwhile, AC/DC are still playing stadiums....and where are 2 Live Crew today?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:25 (twenty-one years ago)

what does this have to do with being dicks and/or stupid?!

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Jess, stop me if I'm wrong, but you don't seem to even like rock. What can you add here?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

alex can i ask you that the next time you pop into an r&b thread?

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex in NYC on various R&B threads to thread!

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost of the night!

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

My head hurts.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

what does this have to do with being dicks and/or stupid?!

Nothing, but it means AC/DC's music has more staying power than 2 Live Crew's.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

alex you turned on a radio lately?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

watch your metaphors, Alex

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

alex can i ask you that the next time you pop into an r&b thread?

Certainly. Well, I do like some pop. It's the exceptionally rare bit of r&b that I like...or at least more contemporary r&b.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

watch your metaphors, Alex

Knew someone was going to jump all over that.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

2 live crew are the rosetta stone of all hip-hop from 1996 onward.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

haha "all hip-hop"

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

whereas ac/dc influenced steve albini.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

alex you turned on a radio lately?

Are you suggesting that you've heard 2 Live Crew on the radio recently?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Knew someone was going to jump all over that.

keep digging! (and Dan Perry to thread!)

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

correction: all good hip-hop

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

haha "all good hip-hop"

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

My comment wasn't a sweeping indictment of hip-hop. It was targeted solely at 2 live Crew (we are straying off topic here.)

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

"haha"

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

FIGHT THE REAL ENEMY, MATOS

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Anybody here prepared to defend Uncle Kracker?

― ben welsh (benwelsh), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm suggesting i've heard alot more music that wouldn't have happened without 2 live crew lately than i've music that wouldn't have happened without ac/dc (though i have heard 2 live crew on the radio lately also)

― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

haha "straying"

haha "haha"

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 15 December 2003 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

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He fucking signs his tweets...

― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 10 August 2019 01:38 (six years ago)

lol kid rock doing some serious projecting here

― Vape Store (crüt), Saturday, 10 August 2019 01:39 (six years ago)

Gah, all that and he tweets, too? The whole package!

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 August 2019 01:41 (six years ago)

oldest move in the book

― j., Saturday, 10 August 2019 01:43 (six years ago)

White Kanye

― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 10 August 2019 01:43 (six years ago)

She should counter by asking him about his Stapp infection.

― Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Saturday, 10 August 2019 01:44 (six years ago)

the Stapp video proves that Bob is his preferred pronoun, smdh at Kid n00bs

― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Saturday, 10 August 2019 01:55 (six years ago)

His name is Kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid Bob!

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 August 2019 02:00 (six years ago)

Amen, Bob. She should be a real American like you, growing up on a six acre estate complete with tennis court and horse paddock, and then bravely adopting a faux “redneck shitkicker” cosplay persona. God bless you, buddy ruff. https://t.co/OLlL430TnN
— Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) August 9, 2019

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 10 August 2019 02:41 (six years ago)

Twitter’s blowin’ up b/c Kacey Musgraves apparently “liked” Kid Rock’s tweet, then “unliked” it afterwards (but not before screenshots were taken).

I generally assume a slip of the thumb in those cases (it’s happened to me once or twice), but who knowz (or, yes, carez)

― 60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Saturday, 10 August 2019 04:58 (six years ago)

three months pass...

Country rocker and rapper Kid Rock was caught on video lashing out at Oprah Winfrey in a vulgar rant while on stage at his Big Ass Honky Tonk Rock N' Roll Steakhouse in Nashville, Tennesee, NBC News reports.

"I’m like, Oprah Winfrey or Joy Behar, they can suck d--- sideways," Rock said, according to the video published on TMZ Friday.

“F--- Oprah Winfrey and f--- Kathie Lee Gifford,” he continued saying as someone in the audience described him as a "blackout drunk.” Rock continuously repeated the same phrases throughout his rant against Winfrey and other women who have hosted talk shows until he suddenly believed he would be accused of being racist based on his on stage remarks.

“To those who would say, “‘Well, I’m pretty sure Kid Rock’s a racist,”” he said, “I’m, like, ‘Fine. F--- off,’ sideways.”
After his outburst against Winfrey, "The View" co-host Joy Behar and TV presenter Kathie Lee Gifford, Rock was reluctantly escorted offstage by the venue's security team.

― omar little, Sunday, 1 December 2019 17:18 (five years ago)

welp, I'm not gonna pretend "fuck off sideways" isn't a great turn of phrase just because it came out of Kid Rock's mouth

― deepchord presents echosmith (unregistered), Sunday, 1 December 2019 17:43 (five years ago)

he just stumbled he says suck my dick sideways a few times then he just flubbed it

whole video is pathetic

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 December 2019 17:59 (five years ago)

I'm going to take a guess that Kid R. has issues with his mom.

― earlnash, Sunday, 1 December 2019 17:59 (five years ago)

http://cdn.styleblueprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/sideways-giamatti-resveratrol-620x459.jpg

from l-r
kid rock's mom, kid rock

― i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Sunday, 1 December 2019 18:36 (five years ago)

fuck off, Sideways

― Tom Violence (Extended Club Mix) (Tom Violence), Sunday, 1 December 2019 18:55 (five years ago)

ha!

― alomar lines, Sunday, 1 December 2019 20:49 (five years ago)

What a douche

― calstars, Sunday, 1 December 2019 23:19 (five years ago)

while on stage at his Big Ass Honky Tonk Rock N' Roll Steakhouse in Nashville, Tennesee

this alone is reason enough to hate him

― 💠 (crüt), Sunday, 1 December 2019 23:30 (five years ago)

Wow can’t believe he would put kathie Lee AND joy behar on blast like that... a true American badass

― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Sunday, 1 December 2019 23:31 (five years ago)

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZC3bmj0uxY

― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Sunday, 29 March 2020 17:53 (five years ago)

this...isnt terrible?

― majority whip, majority nae nae (m bison), Sunday, 29 March 2020 20:54 (five years ago)

you couldn't pay me to click that

These fuckin speechmarks are all over the shop:

“To those who would say, “‘Well, I’m pretty sure Kid Rock’s a racist,”” he said, “I’m, like, ‘Fine. F--- off,’ sideways.”

"I'll turn sideways, and I'll be like..."

― sbahnhof, Thursday, 2 April 2020 06:18 (five years ago)

one year passes...

Kid Rock is BACK and he’s got some things to get off his chest pic.twitter.com/kKsMTkfnWq
— Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) November 19, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm0Vmt-QIDc

― frogbs, Sunday, 21 November 2021 16:55 (three years ago)

Shouldn't have CGId the fire.

― hocus pocus, alakazam (PBKR), Sunday, 21 November 2021 17:25 (three years ago)

was hoping this bump meant he was dead

― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 November 2021 17:29 (three years ago)

Hey snowflake

― calstars, Sunday, 21 November 2021 17:35 (three years ago)

Fresh take with those participation trophy bars!

Wouldn’t mind this if it were in a language I didn’t know.

― ... (Eazy), Sunday, 21 November 2021 17:40 (three years ago)

barstool and kid rock, a match made in hell

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 November 2021 18:10 (three years ago)

if him and Portnoy could be on the same doomed monorail

― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 November 2021 18:14 (three years ago)

barstool and kid rock, a match made in hell

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, November 21, 2021 1:10 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

well they're both stool

― Evan, Sunday, 21 November 2021 18:27 (three years ago)

Everything.

― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 22 November 2021 01:20 (three years ago)

smithers, have the beastie boys killed

― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 22 November 2021 01:39 (three years ago)

Is the Ira Kaplan credited as the writer on this ancient Kid Rock song THE Ira Kaplan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXINj9qoHwE

― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 22 November 2021 10:18 (three years ago)

the album version ends with a 19-minute noise guitar freakout

― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 22 November 2021 18:40 (three years ago)

some years ago I was listening to New Kingdom when a friend stopped by. He said, "what is this? it sounds like Kid Rock" 😬 i'll never forget that.

― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:09 (three years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/vH2dm6Y.jpg

― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 22 November 2021 22:08 (three years ago)

Haha, Al rarely gets snarky so it's cute when he does.

― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 00:14 (three years ago)

surprised there's no "Let's Go Brandon" on this, possibly because Kid Rock didn't understand the reference

― frogbs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 05:00 (three years ago)

four months pass...

Ok, so this song apparently came out a couple months ago, but does include some "let's go brandons," frogbs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyFnLqJx-uU

I feel like he's actually gearing up for a run this time.

― peace, man, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 16:10 (three years ago)

I would love to have dinner with Kid Rock

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 16:41 (three years ago)

does include some "let's go brandons,"

Just a few.

Imagine making an entire song screaming at Joe Biden because he initiated testing, tracing and quarantine at borders, thereby successfully saving a minimum of half a million lives and sustaining the economy of the US.

― beepy fridges (sic), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 18:05 (three years ago)

ok I know I see On Cinema references in everything but COME ON!!! ITS EXACTLY THE SAME!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm0Vmt-QIDc

― frogbs, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 18:31 (three years ago)

I still get “ain’t noooobody gonna tell me how to liiiiiive” popping into my thoughts

― mh, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 18:44 (three years ago)

like I swear it even uses the same stock transitions

― frogbs, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 18:58 (three years ago)

Wow his voice/delivery is awful compared to 20 yrs ago (ie the last time I heard him)

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 19:17 (three years ago)

he is not a beastie boy but he is better that enema m!

― xzanfar, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 20:38 (three years ago)

one year passes...

There's on-brand and then there's this

#ScoopNashville — Kid Rock’s Bar scores 69 on health department inspection https://t.co/kmQ4OtHQ4f pic.twitter.com/hy8Hyy0chC
— Scoop: Nashville (@scoopnash) July 27, 2023

(his restaurant scored a 69 on its health inspection)

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 27 July 2023 04:56 (two years ago)

were there reports of him hootin and hollerin while people were trying to tell him his restaurant was shutting down

― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, 27 July 2023 06:20 (two years ago)

(his restaurant scored a 69 on its health inspection)

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra)

nice

― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 27 July 2023 14:58 (two years ago)

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