Music similar to Kurt Scwitters and Sheila Chandra?

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I am looking for similar tracks to Kurt Schwitters Ursonate and Sheila Chandra's Talking in Tongues.....almost linguistics rhythm pieces...any suggestions?

― Reid Hawkins, Monday, 15 December 2003 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Jaap Blonk

― o. nate (onate), Monday, 15 December 2003 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

any other suggestions? I do not want another version of Ursonate.....

― Reid Hawkins, Monday, 15 December 2003 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

He's done lots of stuff other than versions of "Ursonate". Check out his Vocalor album ,for instance.

― o. nate (onate), Monday, 15 December 2003 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

isidore isou's 'poeme lettristes 1944-1999' and henri chopin's 'les mirifiques tundras and compaigne' LPs on algha marghen are my faves among the many 'sound poetry' records I bought from them.

also john cage's 62 mesostics for merce cunningham 2 Cd on hat art but that has been deleted.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 15 December 2003 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

concrete poetry site:

http://www.ubu.com/

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 15 December 2003 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

David Moss has done some work in this vein. Cage has another mesostics recording included on "Roaratorio", but I'm not sure if it's still in print -- the mesostics pieces, although syntactically abstract, do include entire words, so I'm not sure if that exceeds your threshold (ie: if you're just looking for pure phonetic pieces a la "Ursonate"). If words are OK, you might also want to look into Charles Amirkhanian and Phil Minton.

― Nom De Plume (Nom De Plume), Monday, 15 December 2003 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Was Sheila Chandra a Dadaist or a Surrealist?

― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Monday, 15 December 2003 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Hinduist.

― Nom De Plume (Nom De Plume), Monday, 15 December 2003 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i like my schwitters bastardized a la matmos and din da da.

― scott seward, Monday, 15 December 2003 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

referring once back to ubuweb: Demetrio Stratos.

I'd also recommend Charles Amirkhanian's album 'Lexical Music', if you can find a copy. Text poems recited and subjected to tape delay layering and manipulations. Less furious id than the Ursonate, but more Rainbow-Chug-Bandit-Bomb.

― (Jon L), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

also, I recently discovered this album by Fatima Miranda and she's now in my buy-on-sight category.

― (Jon L), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

same here!

some nice things to look out for.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, I'd never heard Fatima Miranda before checking out that site, but I really liked what I heard.

Other recommendations for this thread, based on what her music brought to mind (keeping to the "extra-lingual" emphasis): Joan Labarbara, Somei Satoh, a group called Timbre (they're on the Leo label), Sainkho Namchylak, Tenko.

Their records are pretty much impossible to find outside of Russia/Ukraine, but if you can locate anything by a group called Duo Zikr, it's also in a similar vein.

― Nom De Plume (Nom De Plume), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

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