Formats, the public, B-sides and YOU!

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From the Xmas no.1 thread:-

Fair enough, but the two tracker is the one that's going to take over...

Not just meaning the Darkness single

Next year, like it or no, UK music formats are going to change. The 2 track 2 quid single will properly take over, and it seems our little indie labels are finally putting the EP to bed in favour of slightly bulkier mini-albums. The full length album will probably be slimmed down to 8-11 tracks too across the board.

Good thing? Bad thing?


Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

7" vinyl sales are up this year on last too

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Personally I've never been too keen on the "EP", it's usually a mark used to signify "single with non-shit b-sides", and it's often wrong. And more often than not it leaves me wanting a few more tracks to get a better feel for the act. I do like the idea of 6-8 track mini album:- From the perspective of putting them together yourself you've got a little room to play with and you can structure things with a bit more freedom.

The 2trackandquid singles are fine enough, it'll mostly be done by major label/quasi-major label artists who are more about the zeitgeist-catching radiosong than the depth of interesting B-sides. I imagine most people are picking up the Darkness single for the A and not in the hope of finding a sensitive acoustic song written by the bass player about his nan's plastic hip on the flipside.

Slimmed down albums . . . fine. As long as there's still some indulgence for the album-as-album. Most jobbing "get the product OUT! so as I may gig and lig" acts could benefit from a little trimming.

More than anything I think it'd all be a good little shake-up. It'll be a lot easier for new, young acts when they're not using the same formats that have been around for a long while, deshackling them from the weight of history, as it were.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, to further that effect we probably need new names for them too.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Bought a cheap copy of Sticky fingers £2.

No-one would get away with an album that short nowadays. But that's as long as it should be..

All are at least 50 mins, pretty much.

Proposed Format list:

2 track single
DVD single
mini ep
CD Album
DVD longform with bonusses.

oh yeah....
7"
LP

Discont...
Cassette
Minidisc

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

GOOD THING. i'd like to see singles "released from albums" eradicated entirely. all releases should STAND ALONE. i feel VERY VERY STRONGLY about this.

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 09:52 (twenty-one years ago)

not much chance of that happening, as 99% of singles are just promos for the album they come from anyway

zappi (joni), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 10:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm. It could happen tho.

2 track single number four from the album. No-one bothers...

hmm. dunno.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i realise it's an unlikely scenario but some bands do do this already. and i applaud their efforts. and i'm also not saying they shouldn't feel free to compile the tracks later. BUT ONLY IF THERE'S NOT JUST ONE UNRELEASED TRACK FUx0rs!!!!

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Agreed.

That brings to mind one time, Amber and Alice found a cassette with a donkey made of straw on it and begged me to put it on. I tried to say "umm I dunno if you'd like it" but they insisted, and heck if they didn't bounce around like nutters to Glam Rock Cops etc..

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought the Buzzcocks had it right. One single off album tops...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)


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