What is the relation between Eno and Nirvana?

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Goddammit, educate me.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 18 December 2003 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Cute.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 18 December 2003 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Er.....Killing Joke were once signed to Brian Eno's E'G records. Nirvana ripped off Killing Joke's "Eighties" from the E'G album, NightTime.

There you have it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 18 December 2003 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

But in "Eighties," did Killing Joke rip off "The Holy Hour" by the Cure? I mean the descending riff thing. And isn't there some kind of Cure influence on emo?

There you have it.

otto, Thursday, 18 December 2003 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Or alternatively:

Brian Eno produced several albums for David Bowie.

David Bowie wrote "The Man Who Sold The World".

Nirvana covered it.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 18 December 2003 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

brian eno used to have long hair and dress like a girl. and so did kurt cobain.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 18 December 2003 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Eno's work with Lanois back in Hamilton influenced Lanois' work with U2 which Kurt no doubt was forced to hear like everyone else.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 18 December 2003 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh. ENO. Duh. Man am I slow today.

otto, Thursday, 18 December 2003 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Another option:

Brian Eno did some production work for U2.

Nirvana's career came to an abrupt end when their lead singer was found having with his brain having blown out by a gun shot at short range under somewhat mysterious circumstances.

I would like the same thing to happen to U2.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 18 December 2003 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

neither eno nor cobain were accused of murdering OJ's wife.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a song on Eno's Before and After Science called [drumroll please]... 'Kurt's Rejoinder'.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Both had teeth, eyeballs, two arms, and two legs. At least allegedly.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

OK NickB, so you think you're smart huh? Well whet about this:

The 'B' side of Nirvana's single "Lithium" is "Curmudgeon"

The last three letters of "Curmudgeon" are E, O and N - which believe it or not are actually an anagram of "ENO"!

Coincidence? I think not!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Eno wrote Dead Finks Don't Talk. Kurt is dead and no longer talks. ... Kurt = Fink.

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, as has been labouriously pointed out, Killing Joke actually ripped off The Damned's "Life Goes On" from the Strawberries album (an album which has fuck-all to do with Eno, btw) for "Eighties."

I don't think there really is a palpable connection between Nirvana and Eno, truthfully.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

".... the Strawberries album.... has fuck-all to do with Eno"

Well, you might be excused for thinking so Alex, but actually there's yet another link here:

Brian Eno has worked with Harold Budd
Harold Budd has worked with Andy Partridge
Andy Partridge has worked with Martin Newell
Martin Newell has worked with Captain Sensible
Captain Sensible is a member of The Damned

I think you can work the rest out from there!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but that's six degrees stuff, not direct. I mean, we could probably do that for every artist.

Nicely done, though, Stew.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

WOT

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm on AMG currently searching for a link via Brian Eno > David Bowie > Adrian Belew > Frank Zappa > Captain Beefheart > ????

I got a bit excited earlier because I found a link which led via Brian Eno > David Bowie > Adrian Belew > King Crimson > Robert Fripp > .... but then realised I'd just ended up back where I started again.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Eno produced the first Devo album. Nirvana covered Devo.

joday (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes he did, but they (Devo) hated working with him (and never did again).

Nirvana's cover of Devo's "Turnaround" ain't bad, actually.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

had he lived, cobain would now be old enough to be aja's father. eno, who is alive, is old enough to be aja's grandfather.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh how stupid of me, I've got it - can't believe I didn't think of this immediately to be honest!

I've got some CD's by Brian Eno and.... guess what.... yes, I've got some CD's by Nirvana too.

Hurrah!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

My shot at redemption. Nevermind was produced by Butch Vig, a native Wisconsinner. "That 70s Show" is set in Wisconsin, and it's theme song is a cover of "Down the Street," by Big Star. I get the Modern Lovers and Big Star confused sometimes. John Cale produced the first Modern Lovers album. I get Eno and Cale confused sometimes. Um, this is worse than misreading Eno as emo, isn't it, so I'll just stop now.

otto, Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

"we saw the lovers/the modern lovers/and they looked very good/they looked as if they could" -- from "the true wheel," on eno's taking tiger mountain (by strategy).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Second cousins by marriage.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Brian Eno > David Bowie > Adrian Belew >

Adrian Belew is in king crimson, cobain is reported to have told butch vig that he wanted a similar guitar tone to than on king crimson's 'red' (which belew isn't on, but wtf, it makes about as much sense)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

b4 belew hung w/ bowie and eno, he was one of zappa's "stunt-guitarists." cobain was from washington. washington is where the seaside hotel from whence people could fish outta their windows is located, and such goings-on were the inspiration for zappa's song "mudshark."

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 18 December 2003 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

How many people have ever thought, stoned or otherwise, 'Gee, isn't it strange that the names Eno and Ono are so similar? Wouldn't EnOno make a bad name for an electronica band? And who is Courtney Love, if not Nirvana's Yoko?' I know I've thought that, well, not often, but I've thought it.

otto, Thursday, 18 December 2003 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"Yoko Eno" would probably work as well.

dlp9001, Thursday, 18 December 2003 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

One way to complete Pashmina's chain:

Brian Eno > David Bowie > Adrian Belew > Laurie Anderson > William S. Burroughs > Kurt Cobain

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 18 December 2003 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

ie., Adrian Belew and William S. Burroughs both worked with Laurie Anderson on Mister Heartbreak. Burroughs released a collaboration with Cobain.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 18 December 2003 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Yoko Eno. Hahahahahaa

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 18 December 2003 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, you could save a few steps, because Eno has worked with Anderson directly.

Brian Eno > Laurie Anderson > Burroughs > Cobain

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 18 December 2003 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

There must be some way to do it via No New York but I haven't been able to figure it out yet.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 18 December 2003 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Brian Eno invented Ambient. Kurt Cobain played with Earth who played Ambient music. Also he produced the Melvins whose Joe Preston has released albums of ambient as Thrones.

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 18 December 2003 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

how enbarrasment, it said eno not emo, is there a relationship betwixt Roger Eno and Nirvana?

mentalist (mentalist), Thursday, 18 December 2003 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

didn't nirvana cover a bowie song?

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 19 December 2003 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Man Who Sold The World"

LondonLee (LondonLee), Friday, 19 December 2003 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, uh .. Stewart said that on the 4th post in the thread.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 19 December 2003 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry, i didn't read the whole thing. i found this on a website called ultimate sloth or something like that(it's in the air):


Brian fucking Eno!! Do I sound like that when I talk about Kurt Cobain?


scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 19 December 2003 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

here is a bang on a can all-stars set list:

Kurt Cobain Lithium (arr. Ziporyn)
Michael Gordon I Buried Paul
Steppenwolf Born To Be Wild (arr.
Lang)
Brian Eno Burning Airlines Give you So
Much More (arr. Ziporyn)
Brian Eno Everything Merges With the
Night (arr. Ziporyn)



scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 19 December 2003 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

ha! ok, I think Scott wins for the Bang on a Can thing.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 19 December 2003 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

And what about the version of "Music for Airports" that Bang on a Can did? That makes an even shorter connection, doesn't it?

o. nate (onate), Friday, 19 December 2003 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Eno's last album ever should be called Ugh.

ermes marana, Friday, 19 December 2003 03:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Eno made an album called My Life In The Bush of Ghosts. Since the cessation of his life, Cobain's ghost has been represented by the band Bush, who are a witless bag of piss.

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 19 December 2003 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

There must be some way to do it via No New York but I haven't been able to figure it out yet.

because i'm bored tonight, and there may be a shorter way, but here goes:

brian eno>DNA>ambitious lovers>arto lindsay>golden palominos>bill laswell>time zone>john lydon>public image limited>keith levene>steve albini

Eisbaer, Sunday, 2 November 2008 05:40 (sixteen years ago)

oh man, the top of this thread especially is pretty hilarious. dave2225 or whatever his name is killed me.

Kevin Keller, Sunday, 2 November 2008 05:53 (sixteen years ago)

Eno sounds like Emo. Emo Phillips was in UHF, a movie starring Weird Al. Weird Al covered Nirvana.

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Sunday, 2 November 2008 06:02 (sixteen years ago)

Nirvana's Dave Grohl was previously in Scream, whose first record (done before Grohl was in the band) was engineered by Don Zientara. Don Zientara also recorded Mock Turtle's "Thank You for Sending Me an Eno" for Limp Record's 1978 :30 Over D.C. comp LP.

Michael Train, Sunday, 2 November 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago)

Eno produced a track for The Walkabouts > Walkabouts on Sub Pop > Cobain on Sub Pop

dlp9001, Monday, 3 November 2008 01:47 (sixteen years ago)

Oh, also:

Kurt Cobain > Pat Smear (played in Nirvana) > Belinda Carlisle (in Germs w/Smear) > Brian Eno (keyboards on a Carlisle solo album)

dlp9001, Monday, 3 November 2008 01:57 (sixteen years ago)

When Colin Newman was a Watford Art College student he sometimes hung out with Eno (and Watford tutor/Oblique Strategies cocreator Peter Schmidt). So, Eno > influenced Wire > influenced Albini > produced In Utero.

dad a, Monday, 3 November 2008 19:26 (sixteen years ago)

You guys never considered the 60s Nirvana in this equation?

I don't know if I can speak to you if you're going to call yours (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

^ suggest ban

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:57 (sixteen years ago)

brian eno>DNA>ambitious lovers>arto lindsay>golden palominos>bill laswell>john zorn>yamantaka eye>boredoms opened for nirvana and the meat puppets

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:59 (sixteen years ago)

Jon is getting into Alex In NYC territory, sneaking the Boredoms into every thread.

Whiney G. Torture Garden (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 November 2008 20:00 (sixteen years ago)

Other message boards usually have a dude who does that with the Simpsons

Whiney G. Torture Garden (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 November 2008 20:01 (sixteen years ago)

brian eno
brianeno
nirbaneo
nirvana
vranina
vran ina

Don't juggle with the words, let's know about our sexuality flash boy (ledge), Monday, 3 November 2008 20:02 (sixteen years ago)

1) Eno played synth on the Walkabouts track "Train to Mercy".
2) The Walkabouts and Nirvana both appear on the Sup Pop 200 comp.

The Vamps of '28 (unregistered), Monday, 3 November 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago)

brian eno compiled that no new wave thing.
lydia lunch was part of the movement.
she recorded a song with sonic youth (and with thurston moore) - death valley 69.
sonic youth brought nirvana to DGC and toured with them.

Zeno, Monday, 3 November 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago)

Eno produced the first Devo album. Nirvana covered Devo.

― joday (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:26 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

That pretty much is it.

Whiney G. Torture Garden (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 November 2008 21:00 (sixteen years ago)

1) Brian Eno was a member of Roxy Music.
2) Chris Thomas produced a bunch of Roxy Music albums.
3) Chris and Patrick Campbell-Lyons worked together in the band Second Thoughts.
2) Patrick is a member of Nirvana (UK).

The Vamps of '28 (unregistered), Monday, 3 November 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago)

The relation between Eno and Nirvana is that of opposites. Eno is a pure aesthete who, while inspired by the urgency of rock, abstracts everything and never fully shows his hand. Cobain, though he was into all manner of artiness, expressed himself with his heart on his sleeve. Eno's all about oblique strategies, looking at the world askance and bemused; Nirvana were aiming for direct communication -- Cobain stares at you, or at his own reflection, and howls.

dad a, Monday, 3 November 2008 21:22 (sixteen years ago)

eno>bono>flood>corgan>courtney love>cobain

^ban with extreme prejudice (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 00:07 (sixteen years ago)

"Here Come The Warm Jets", "Territorial Pissings"

Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 18:59 (sixteen years ago)

three years pass...

Eno made an album called My Life In The Bush of Ghosts. Since the cessation of his life, Cobain's ghost has been represented by the band Bush, who are a witless bag of piss.
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, December 19, 2003 5:39 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've used the term "witless bag of piss" since this post!

Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Monday, 7 May 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

In some alternate universe, Eno produced Cobain's fourth solo album, released in 2003. It was terrible.

tylerw, Monday, 7 May 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)


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