Taking Sides: Nas vs. Jay-z

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brains, Monday, 17 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, I was just listening to "Takeover" and wondering what was up with them. I'm siding with Jay-Z, but I can't say I've given Nas much of a chance. Should I? Really?

Cryosmurf, Monday, 17 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Jay Z is tired. Nas had one good thing with Illmatic then just shot himself in the foot over and over again with each release after. Fuck em both.

chaki, Monday, 17 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Folks, you're missing the endless comedy thread which beats this question to death. Still strong after even this past week!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

damn. you're right. *hangs head in shame*

brains, Monday, 17 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh my god, I can't believe this is even a question - Jiggaman beats all, he's like ...well, whatever always wins in Paper, Rock, Scissors - that's Jay-Z.

Ally, Monday, 17 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Smooth.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You can all thank me later.

Let's mutate this into a Jay-Z: Search & Destroy, how 'bout it? _The Blueprint_ is fantastic (duh), and his guest appearance on the remix of Missy's "One Minute Man" kicks the crap out of Ludacris' cunning linguistics. "No Ralph Tresvant / No Ronnie Romance". So, where should I go now? And where should I NOT go?

David Raposa, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Jay-Z: destroy "Anything", "Sunshine", that shitty Puffy-era cover of "Wishing On A Star", a lot of The Dynasty ROC La Familia, and that collaboration with Another Level, whatever the fuck it was called.

Search The Life and Times of Sean Carter and The Blueprint. Both definitive, awesome, flawless, essential. There's a lot of good stuff on the Hard Knock Life album as well.

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Destroy: All of the ones with musical choruses ("Anything" being obviously worse than "Hard Knock Life")

Search: The Blueprint, especially "Takeover", Vols 2 and 3.

Ally, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Search: "Can I Get A...", which is one of the best songs EVER.

Destroy: "Hard Knock Life", which made me actively hate Jay-Z for a while.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hard Knock Life might piss people off but vol. II is still Jigga's most direct and thrilling record (check the three songs after hard knock life for proof). Lyrically Jay veers closest to Illmatic-era Nas on Reasonable Doubt, but his work with Timba and Swizz on vol. II kicks harder than the others.

Ralan, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

1) I actually quite like "Sunshine".

2) All of Jay-Z's albums have something to offer, although the three to get are probably 2, 3 and Blueprint, as people have been saying.

3) Ludacris' guest appearance on "One Minute Man" was clearly the best thing ever. As in, ever.

Tim, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...
Yo i think Nas is a better illest emcee/yeah i heard "TAKEOVER"// it was aight // but Stillmatic gone fuck Cormega ugly ass and Jay-z ass// Yo I think Nas will kill cormega, and Jay-z wit a single verse

Jeremy Chesnut, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...
yo jay-z is tight but this nigga think he runin everybody else shit 2 look nas's shit drops the 18 this nigga ja-z came out wit some stupid ass mtv unpluged shit that will b comein out on the 18 too now this nigga is tripin he got an obbseion wit that nigga nas or something but it all comes down 2 who is better and i gotta give it 2 that nigga nas 4 stayin humble and keepin it real and raw

joe marty, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

In my opinion, Hova answered all of his critics or haters or rappers with no clout and no ends by saying, "Bird ass niggas, I don't mean to ruffle ya'll, I know you waiting in the wing, But I'm doing my thang, Where's the Love?

Didn't nobody have no bad words to say about Jay until all the Money, Cash, Hoes,Platinum albums. Hit after hit, start hitting. WHy can't ya'll understand that Nas, Prodigy, Jadakiss, and all those other cats are just mad because another brother fron the NYC has taken the throne, period. It ain't even about whose selling more albums, it is obvious Jay probaly has sold more than all of them put together. It's about continuity and consistence. Don't hate him because he on every radio station and television. Dam he was voted #2 rapper of all time on the 50 greates MC's. It ain't about being like PAc or Biggie. They are dead and gone. People need to stop comparing everyone's talent with those two. It's about right now. People can front all they want, but you know Jay-z is the tighest thing since spandex. Holla

Kimberly Smith, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

kim, please.......... you need to stop that, and cop tha stillmatic, listen to that and then tell me hova still gon be on top. he's rustled up some old habit from Nas and im glad he did, nas fell off for a hot minute but, uhh............ hes back. and h to the izzo may be in alotta t to the trouble.

kazper, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

you said you been in this ten, i've been in it five, smarten up nas four albums in ten years nigga i can divide, thats one every, lets say two, two of them shits was due, one was naaaaah, the other was illmatic, thats a hot album every ten year average.

that pretty much sums it up nas hasn't dropped a complete albums since illmatic i mean he had a couple of cool songs on his last three but c'mon lets think about this one for a minute jay-z came out in 96 with reasonable doubt and since then he has dropped vol1, vol2, vol3, dynasty, and the blueprint, not to mention the streets is watching movie and soundtrack which is basically another jay album with some other niggas on the side, and about this so called beef between jigga and nas, well if nas was smart he'd let jigga hold his throne in peace i mean that ether shit is with out a doubt a sick track and takeover and super ugly just make nas look like a rookie the funny thing is jay aint even broke a sweat nas on the other hand put everything he had in to ether and thats what makes it an nc (no contest. and im out

oh yeah two words for nas BREATH EASY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Robert Johnson, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Jay-Z got a dose of reality when Nas dropped Ether. Seriously, Jay-Z is the epitome of commercial, all dude raps about is money, cars, and girls. Jay needs to take a page from the greats like Pac and Big and try to enlighten minds instead of creating ish with the best lyricist in the game, that being Nas. Nas slipped there for a while, but Esco is back, buy the new album, listen to the lyrics, there's no doubt!!!! He ripped Jay, and if Jigga-man keeps pushing the issue, it's gonna happen again. I'll give Jay-Z some credit, he can sell records, but you might as well save your 20 bucks next time he drops something, cause garbage is free. Hova your time is ova, Nas has reclaimed his throne. Peace 1

Hott Nikkels, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Rappers have Egos. It's a given. But Jay-Z, like the Best MCs, seems to have a certain self-deprecating good-humor, which is part of the reason why his stuff is so good for parties (it helps that he's really good). Nas is a technically better MC, but takes himself way too seriously for my taste.

Jack Redelfs, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

nas is done with he is done he knows jay-z is the king of new york. matter of fact nas had the worst flow in the fuckin song but i know the son dont shine then son dont shine thats why his career has come to an end its only so long fake thugs can pretend. im out 1

eloy zamora, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nas ain't anthing except a 2 inch bitch and if you like him your one to.your just mad that you don't have money,cars ,or girls and all nas raps about is being a fucking faget

john segura, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

jay-z can out sell any body in the business because his style is dope and nas cant except the fact that jay is the king of hip hop and nas is the royal pesant this nigga cant make an album cause is worried jay might drop another and knock his ass out of queens for good nasty nas is mad cause he aint got, "girls" " girls" "girls"

jay hova, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hell no no question about it nas whooped jay-z in stillmatic like nas sayed "Put it together i rock hoes yall roc-fellas"

Brickz, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Brace yourself for the main event Y'all impatiently waitin It's like an AIDS test, what's the results? Not positive, who's the best? Pac, Nas and Big Ain't no best, East, West, North, South, flossed out, greedy I embrace y'all with napalm Blows up, no guts, left chest, face gone How could Nas be garbage? Semi-autos at your cartilege Burner at the side of your dome, come outta my throne I got this, locked since '9-1 I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced Gave y'all chapters but now I keep my eyes on the Judas With Hawaiin Sophie fame, kept my name in his music Check it I've been fucked over, left for dead, dissed and fogotten Luck ran out, they hoped that I'd be gone, stiff and rotten Y'all just piss on me, shit on me, spit on my grave (uh) Talk about me, laugh behind my back but in my face Y'all some "well wishers," friendly actin, envy hidin snakes With your hands out for my money, man, how much can I take? When these streets keep callin, heard it when I was sleep That this Gay-Z and Cockafella Records wanted beef Started cockin up my weapon, slowly loadin up this ammo To explode it on a camel, and his soldiers, I can handle This for dolo and it's manuscript, just sound stupid When KRS already made an album called Blueprint First, Biggie's ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than Big Dick suckin lips, whyn't you let the late, great veteran live

Y'all niggas deal with emotions like bitches What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother You traded your soul for riches My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous And now I smile like a proud dad, watchin his only son that made it You seem to be only concerned with dissin women Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly? Well life is hard, hug me, don't reject me Or make records to disrespect me, blatent or indirectly In '88 you was gettin chased through your buildin Callin my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers All I did was gave you a style for you to run with Smilin in my face, glad to break bread with the god Wearin Jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case Just Hawaiian shirts, hangin with little Chase You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pussy, a Stan I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a karate class You Tae-bo hoe, tryna' work it out, you tryna' get brolic? Ask me if I'm tryna' kick knowledge Nah, I'm tryna' kick the shit you need to learn though That ether, that shit that make your soul burn slow Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy? Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy Rockafeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after? Put it together, I rock hoes, y'all rock fellas And now y'all try to take my spot, fellas? Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas Foxy got you hot 'cause you kept your face in her puss What you think, you gettin girls now 'cause of your looks? Ne-gro please You no mustache havin, with whiskers like a rat Compared to Beans you wack And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame You ass, went from Jaz to hangin with Caine, to Herb, to Big And, Eminem murdered you on your own shit You a dick-ridin faggot, you love the attention Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons Ha, R-O-C get gunned up and clapped quick J.J. Evans get gunned up and clapped quick Your whole damn record label gunned up and clapped quick Shaun Carter to Jay-Z, damn you on Jaz dick So little shorty's gettin gunned up and clapped quick How much of Biggie's rhymes is gon' come out your fat lips? Wanted to be on every last one of my classics You pop shit, apologize, nigga, just ask Kiss

Bob Taylor, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

FORGET JIGGA NAS IS THE MASTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Edward P. Nocock, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry I was drunk last time I left a comment. Jigga is a nobody. Nas is everybody. LONG LIVE NAS THE KING OF NEW YORK AND MY LIFE.

john segura, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I AM A FOOL NAS IS A KING. I WILL TAKE MIGHT LIFE IF YALL DONT UNDERSTAND THAT. NAS RULES.

eloy zamora, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I AM SO SORRY NAS MY MASTER YOU ARE THE KING. I CRY AT NIGHT THINKING THAT I WAS A JIGGA FAN. I JUST WANNA BE YOUR GIRL.

eloy zamora, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

first of all FUCK YOU!!! you fake ass bitches that wrote this wack shit about Nas being cool. that bitch could have came back into the game four years ago when the greatest lyricist of all time asked him to do a track. But that bitch knew Jay would be his boss and Nas couldnt handle that. You fake ass

BITCH,ASS,DICKLICK,SUMMAMABITCH

your moms pimp, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry Cockafella fans but theres no doubt nas is the King. Jay-z's getting old and ugly. Nas's lyrics made him the king. I mean listen to some of jay-z's bull shit. "Jigga my Nigga" a secret song on life and times of S. Carter. Now that shit is gay. Nas never came out with anything that fuckin gay, It just makes me crack up. I'm not talkin shit to anyone who likes Jay-z, I'm talking shit about him. Some of you start fightin over this shit at each other, i mean whats the point fighting each over over the fuckin internet, you can't do shit you pobrably live in another state so why even do that shit. Anyways besides that shit i'm just saying i'm taking Nas on this war. Nas has always been harder than Jay-Z will ever be and if this shit keeps carrying on you'll see who gets buried first. All you Nas fans know what i'm talkin about. Ps. Tupac and Nas the best rappers than has ever lived.

T, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well here it is nas and jay z are both tight but lets face it jay z would probaly get the upper in an actual fight but nas would kill jay z and hurt his pride lyricaly.

James Quinn, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

NAS IS MY GOD

Magic Pig, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I really think something is wrong with my brains. Sometimes I think Jigga is the king. lol What was I thinking. I really need to go get hit by a bus. I really worship rap. I need Jesus in my life. I just simply need a life. But one thing I do know is Nas is my favorite rapper of all times.

NAS FAN 4 LIFE, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nas is the best nas'illmatic is beter than all of hova's albums and stillmatic killes the blueprint. look jay z just copies every one like krs-one gay z is garage.

ematic, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

first of all fo' all you fuckin bitches that wrote jigga was the man then said nas was the man FUCK YOU !!!! what the FUCK is this SHIT, if you a jigga fan , it's all aite, but once you a jigga fan don't ever think you can like nas . nas is da illest and da real king of N.Y.C QUEENS BORO YO I'M OUT!

"I ROCK HOES YA'LL ROCK -FELLAS" - NAS

samie 'the crip' ismail, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

fuck GAY-Z name a raper NAS has not inflenced you pop fagetyou should just quit dont you GAY-Z fans know its ova Hova Fuck GAY-Z fans NAS is the true king of "NEW YORK so grave a hold and ride with me"- NAS-is STILLMATIC yours truly EMATIC? p.s. i am the streets disiple

ematic, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Fuck wrong wit ya'll going for Nas, Niggas wit pink suits tryin to look cute? what kinda fukin dream is that. ya'll dick riding niggas got to see Jay-z showed Nas is too late, As for Nas he a bitch he wouldn't do anything to Jay-z and Cormega, QueenBridge fallin down and destroy and stillmatic is only one straight album to bump, Jay-z topped Nas already and this nigga coming out wit Ether thats prolly the only song he really did put work into, Jay-z practically took 1 day to make supaugly and Ether took Nas slow ass like fuckin 4 months, thats showing that Jay-z aint breaking a sweat and not taking it to the head like nas, lets face it Nas aint gonna be touching Jay- z songs any longer

Ps: Anyone who like nas should know the bitch only story tells the whole fuckin time in his albums, Peace

Rikan, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what the FUCK , BITCH , story telling is a billion more times realah and a billion times more interesting than rapping about "girls , girls , girls " i mean what nigga doesn't like girls unless he's trying to cover up his gayness FUCK you niggas and bitches dat be writing responses are FUCKIN IDIOTS you FUCKIN ASSHOLES know notin' about real hip-hop FUCK YOU and go listen to JA RULE or NELLY you white washed alcoholics P.S. NAS is da real king of NEW YORK, and if any one has beef den just bring it !!!

samie "ISH", Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I dont wanna say nuttin but if you like niggas wit chains that be gettin robbed thats fine with me but nigga's try to get loud on the internet and thats suttin that nas do on his songs, face it jay-z made more money in his albums then nas, nas new cd is iight but thats the first album that really gotten noticed from him. Jay-z he probbably mainstrem but he kept it real since he came out. Nas he tryin to be mainstream and Cormega made a song wit K Slay he said it himself "Nigga biggie and tupac didnt like you get off they dick" Nas is straight but self proclaiming himself as the best wit biggie and pac is a joke. Jay-z talks about the truth he dont babble about something he makes up in his mind like Nas, besides that p'z out

, Sunday, 20 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

THE DAYS OF MC'S LIKE RAKIM AND NAS ARE COMING BACK MC'S THAT BRING LYRICS TO A TIME WHEN THE JOE CAMEL(JAY-Z) RUN IS OVER. I MEAN HOW MANY TIME CAN THIS NIGGA FLIP THE SAME THING MY ICE, MY WOMEN ETC.

AKIM KAMARA, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry NAS IS KING.

Dummy, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

WHAT THE HECK WAS I THINK. I MUST BE A FOOL TO THINK JIGGA COULD RAP. ETHER IS THE BEST SONG IN THE WORLD. NAS IS MY GOD. JIGGA IS NOTHING. IM SORRY FOR THINKING JIGGA IS BETTER

NAS FAN 4 LIFE, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

SORRY ABOUT THAT 4 MONTH COMMENT NAS WAS JUST LETTING JIGGA HAVE HIS FUN. IM SORRY NAS YOU ARE MY KING. I LOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE YOU NAS.

, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

fuck you,jay-z won the war so you bitches shut the fuck up and make room for the king of newyork you fake escobar bitches fuck you

"you sold asprin how the fuck you escobar?"- jay-z

fake ass escobar, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

FUCK all you stupid ass jay-z fans. In Stillmatic Jay-z got tore a new ass hole niggas. You stupid ass white dicks think jay-z is so great cuz yall see him on trl and shit. FUCK YALL!!! Nas can eat jayz. Gay-z couldn't even make his own beat so he had to use nas shit. He proved right there he think nas is hot. Gay-z sux and so do yall cock- a-fella fans. To yall nas fans, continue keepin it real!

still the greatest, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You stupid ass white dicks think jay-z is so great cuz yall see him on trl and shit. FUCK YALL!!!

Such perception.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nas a bitch he cant rock anything hott but his pink suit, he still fuckin shit and he givin Qb a bad name Fuck that nigga he neva runned shit on the allen, Yall niggas talk fake shit about Nas he neva was nothing, Jay-z been took the crown and Nas still dont see cause that nigga dick ride on street Dj's too look like he got hot, Jay-z Made more classics in one album then nas made in his whole career fuck that nigga, Jay RUn dis shit and fuck yall dick ridin Nas fans

Real NiGga, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

IM SORRY GUYS I MUST OF BEEN HIGH BUT NAS IS REALLY SHIT, I MEAN WHY DID IT TAKE NAS 4 MONTHS TO MAKE THAT SONG? IT TOOK JAY-Z TO MAKE A SONG OVER A NIGHT THAT GAVE NAS A SECOND HIT RIGHT AT HIS BOX SHAPED HEAD AND HE USED NAS BEAT TO DISS HIM SO YALL NAS LIKING QB ISNT QUEENS BRIDGE ITS QUEER BITCHES AND I AINT UP IN THAT SHIT SO CALM DOWN

NAS SUCK, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

fuck you,NAS won the war so you bitches shut the fuck up and make room for the king of newyork you fake jay-z bitches fuck you

NAS COCK SUCKA, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Danja,

first off, just because Nas didn't agree to the pay per view thing doesn't mean that he's a lesser MC. It might indicate that he can't freestyle like Jay, but that's only part of the game.

secondly, i understand him not doing summer jam. Shit, last year Jay got up there and took shots at him and Prodigy. Why can't Nas get his revenge?

And yeah...Nas is the most contradictory person ever...but, I have a feeling that God's Son is going to blow Blueprint 2 outta the water.

S, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 19:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't particularly like Jay-Z or Nas, but I do remember a Nas song some few years back where he set up this elaborate metaphor where his mouth was the barrel of a gun and his words were bullets, and it blew my friggin mind...unfortunately, I haven't heard anything even close to that from him ever since.

Jay-Z on the other hand just bores and annoys the piss outta me. Why oh why is it that so many mediocre-at-best emcees manage to reign supreme in "the charts"!?!?

I suppose it's the Neptunes...I think an experiment is in order...let's get a frickin' chihuahua to fart along to a Neptunes beat, and I swear to God it will go number one in a week.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 21:34 (twenty-three years ago)

"...let's get a frickin' chihuahua to fart along to a Neptunes beat, and I swear to God it will go number one in a week."

...And it would also be better than the Neptunes-produced Justin Timberlake song. My favorite Neptunes is still ODB's Nigga Please.

S, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 21:45 (twenty-three years ago)

"My favorite Neptunes is still ODB's Nigga Please."

A-frickin-men!

nickalicious, Wednesday, 13 November 2002 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...
No questions about it Jay and Nas are definetly # 1 and 2. Whichever order you put it in is up to you. Nas did fall off for a while but the nigga's back you dont have to show him love but you gotta give him his respect. I wanna see what niggas gotta say about the gift and the curse and god's son. Personally my moneys on nas.

Arcane, Sunday, 15 December 2002 04:50 (twenty-three years ago)

The fact is that Jay-Z is the emperor of commercial hype. Like he says he can "sell snow to eskimos" and in that sensed he's gifted but lyrically he cursed. That nigga deserves much respect for his creativity and consistency but beyond that he's just another emcee.
Do yourself a favor and buy "The gift and the curse"(5-weeks Triple platinum) and "God's Son" but take them for what they are: A hot Double-cd set with few a sparkling moments and a destined classic(Nas's God's Son). I have a lot of respect for Jay-z but being a top seller doesn't make him the #1 emcee. Jigga knows how to keep the crowd jumpin but that nigga Nas can leave them in silence. Nas is the most technically-sound lyricist there is and if Jay-z stays consistent like he has been then he might reach Nas's level.
-Braveheart for life-

Yin, Tuesday, 17 December 2002 07:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, but who has the coolest Air Force 1s?

maelstrom, Tuesday, 17 December 2002 13:15 (twenty-three years ago)

"Yes, but who has the coolest Air Force 1s?"

That tells it all. Commercial bullshit sells to people who think like that. Jay-Z knows that but that isn't the issue. Jigga calls himself the f**kin "King of New York." He says he betta than Nas and that's where he f**ks up at. Just because it shines brighter doesn't make it better. I would never hate on the nigga cuz as far as I can see, he's at the top of the game and he deserves everything he has.
Bottom line he's not the best rapper. Put the nigga in Platinum Air Force laced with diamonds and he's still wack on the mic. The nigga will never be at Nas's level. That's why Jigga can't be humble on da mic. He knows that's lyrical he has no depth and he hasn't really dropped anything that deserves much respect. If a man is respected for his Air Force 1s then is he really respected?!! It's like Jay-Z says himself "where were y'all at when we were being sued by everyone?" People got respect for his money because that's what America is measured by but as for his music, 70 percent of it is wack. Behind the scenes I think Jigga deserves a lot of respect becuz of where he's come from and he's where he's made it too. A lot of niggas blinded by dollar signs don't know he does a lot for the projects and charity. Air Force 1s don't earn real respect. So my question is who's cooler: The man wearing the shoes or the man designing the shoes. It's deeper than who has the coolest shit!
-Braveheart for life-

"Hater - One who dislikes an artist for no musical reason ."
(www.wutangworld.com/slang.html)
I'm not too nice with the slang so I don't know the word for: "One who likes an artist for no musical reason." Maybe "D**k rider" or something like that.

As I said before go out and get "The Gift and the Curse" and "God's Son" but take them for what they are. Doesn't Really matter which you like more. These are two hot artists. I back every word I say but in the end all of this sh*t is opinion even the bull I'm spittin. I just don't like to see niggas respecting based on their money but I guess when you have no depth in your life then money is the only measurement you got.
-Yin, the passive, cooler side. Yang, the active, loud side.-

Yang, Wednesday, 18 December 2002 08:20 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...
Yall really dont know anything about how it all started
nas was aiding to his mom who had died he was going to stop making
great music.then jay came in with takeover dont he know that nas
will eat him up. From illmatic,I am,nastradomus,Q.B Finest,Nas was
Scarface jay was monollow It hurt nas to kill him and his crew for
hip hop.

M.Bezzy, Saturday, 4 January 2003 02:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Yo!!!! From Da Gate Jay Much Love Man Keep Doing Ya Thing Man
Fuck The Haters......

Yo First Off Nas Needs To Show Respect To The Cat That Brought Him Back From Behind The Shadows Jay Gave Him Purpose Again... Be For Then He Wasn't Doing To Much Other Then Belly.He Said It Hisself -
I Was Left For Dead Distant Forgoten Luck Ran Out They Hope That I'd Be Gone Stiff And Rotten They Just Pist On Me Spit On Me Shit On My Grave... Jay Held NY, Marcy, The Hole NY After Pac, Snoop, Kurupt And Daz Crushed The Buildin's After BIG Was Gone He Pick Up The Pieces And Never Stopped After That... Face It The Boy Was Born With The Lyrical Gift A Verbal Demon A BK Verb Addict... Nas Don't Get Me Wrong Nas Is Nice With His But Jay Comes At You Straght No Thinking Is Reqired Every Line He Spit Is Real In Plan Form...And He Give You Education Everytime Streets, Bitches, Women, Cheese, And Hustle You Gott Have Hustle He Tells You That In Every Song... Don't Left The Streets, The System, Or Anything Hold You Down...So For All These Haters Out There Saying All He Talks About Is His Wealth And Materal Gift List (His Cars,Chains,est)He Does Talk About It But He Gives Niggaz Knowledge... Point Blank Streght,Flat Out Jay-z,Shawn Carter,Hov,The GOD What Ever You CAll The Nigga Is That Nigga Fa Sho So Nas Let It Go.....

Reece, Saturday, 4 January 2003 03:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Y'all niggaz need to recognize QB for what it is and y'all dont know what the real streets about. Where you be seein Jay-Z? Where the fuck that nigga be at? Nas keep that shit real and he the best Lyricist that ever came out wit some new shit that got the whole south side shakin' Nas'll bust Jay-Z's punk ass in anythang and that nigga comin out wit his big ass lips sayin Marcy the real shit on top? Y'all dont know QB.

Arthur reppin 12 and 21 on na 41st side for life, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 03:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Yang, I agree with you on ya shit but damn nigga if you wanna curse then curse!

Arthur back reppin QB, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 03:27 (twenty-two years ago)

three weeks pass...
Jigga is an ugly bitch, he go's 'girls are like, oh he's so handsome'? WTF? Jay Z is an ass bandit, Who feels jigga? His head looks like a smacked ass. Nas is the real king, YEAAAAAAH NAS BABY !!

Hosk, Saturday, 1 February 2003 02:28 (twenty-two years ago)

NAS IS KING

Q.C, Thursday, 13 February 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...
NAS IS GOD.

hurkle, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...
Fuck Nas. You could best believe, believe the best, mothaFUCK the rest

Jay-Z IS KING

kyoko, Monday, 29 December 2003 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
ITs the year 2004 peeps and JAY Z REMAINS KING IN THIS HIP HOP THING THE GREY ALBUM IS HERE THE BLACK IS CLASSIC THE BLUEPRINT LEGENDARY ONE OF THE BEST OF ALL TIME RENEGADE CMON MAN SONG CRY GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS ALL HITZ AS he walks into retirement i appreciate his talent.his skill he just represented for a different type of person a hustla HOLLA !!! CAN WE GET A ENCORE YES WE WANT MORE !!!!!KANYE DONT TRY TO FILL HOVAS SHOES U GOT YOUR ON THING YOUR TALENT IS UNIQUE use it I WOULD CALL YOU THE MID WEST VERSION OF DR DRE (NAS U ONLY GET half A BAR FUCK U NIGGA)P.S.y so long fake thugs can pretend!!you aint live it you witnessed it from you folks pad you skribbled on your notepad created your life!!!!!!!!!!Switch up flow u shit is garbage what you trying to kick knowledge Hova da DON!!!HOVA HOVA HOVAHOVAHOVA

ben wallace, Monday, 29 March 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Stick to basketball, Ben.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 29 March 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Ey yo... serioiusly... i was on jay-zs side at the start... but honestly... nas will FUCK WITH YOUR SOUL LIKE EHTER... WILL TEACH YOU THE KING YOU KNOW YOU... NOT... GODSON ACROSS THE BELLY... LOSE I PROVE YOU LOST ALEADY... that song single handedly fucks up jay-z... ill give jay this much, he can sell records, but that is due to his appeal to all them white boys listening to rap, which in the in proves how big of a sellout he is... nas, unlike most, keeps his shit real and raw... he fucking is arguabley the best lyrisist ever alive... on another note... eminem fucks up every rapper out there... and there aint no arguing that

StiLLmatic, Saturday, 10 April 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

people still care? jay-z wins, i prefer nas style but in terms of being an mx hes a one f;low nigga, both got patchy record history, but jay-z's recent output keeps getting stronger wheras nas kind of maintains a drift between good and mediocre output. i thik the only eway this can be solved is a bitch fiht between kelis and beyonce, put them in a ring and oil them up, this will not decifer who is the better mc but i see no reason why it shouldnt be done.

miss jizm, Saturday, 10 April 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

2pac outlaws thuglife 4 life

bad boi killer, Saturday, 17 April 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

yo nas da man jay will nevr take nasty nas crown ether can not b beaten stilmatic is much betr dan blueprint so all u jigger fans rok fellas but kanye west gd he needs to get away from dat dik ridin faggot fuk jay z

chris greenwood, Sunday, 25 April 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

yo all gay z ses in his songs is history in da makin and its da roc in da buildin. nas 4life

chris greenwood (chris greenwood), Sunday, 25 April 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

yo wat da fuk yo y all da ova nas luvvas fink us white boys likin jay im white nd i h8 da fat nobb nas da last real nigger alive peace out nd im goin 2 see nas at da nec cnt wait nd jay how many mor ov biggies rymes r guna cum out ur fat lips

chris greenwood (chris greenwood), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Jay-Z is a complete joke. His rhymes are pedestrian, his flow weak, and even his rhythms erratic. Just another of the rappers who became popular on the mtv wavelength in the mid 90s.

pfft, Sunday, 25 April 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

yo pfft i feel wat ur sayin bro

chris greenwood (chris greenwood), Sunday, 25 April 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

five months pass...
Yo FUCK Jay-Z all hes good at is marketing to sell albums he aint true to rap...i mean fuck blueprints was already an album by krs-one n black album is all bout nice cars n how hes the greatest n bull shit n fuck jay-z's got cam'ron trying to diss up nas thats a fuckn joke(even tho i gots much love fo Killa Cam)..NAS is the shit hes tha king rappin bout the streets n shit.........BEST RAPPERS EVER BIGGIE TUPAC BIG L NAS n maybe even BIG PUN up there

REAL G, Sunday, 3 October 2004 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

It's just a pale imitation, this thread.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 3 October 2004 04:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder why they turned out so differently - at least in size. Find out and google would pay good money.

Jedmond (Jedmond), Sunday, 3 October 2004 06:35 (twenty-one years ago)

BEST RAPPERS EVER BIGGIE TUPAC BIG L NAS n maybe even BIG PUN up there

yup

joseph pot (STINKORâ„¢), Sunday, 3 October 2004 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)

*maybe* BIG PUN? fuck that

m. (mitchlnw), Sunday, 3 October 2004 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)

jesus h. i've been posting erratically here for three years ... damn.

jake b. (cerybut), Sunday, 3 October 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
damnmm it's 4 yonks witout gettin in this shit this web's pretty slammin nah mean.check this out 'black album vs 'street dicipline'nas still gonna rule this shit.gay-z is fagged out his ass is wrengled he batta quit da shit.

B.e, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

So yeah I'm gonna say "Anything" by Jay-Z is a great song. Motherfuckers who hated on that shit and jizzed all over that Dizzee song need to check themselves.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
yo nas is a joke his jay will joke him and end his cerrer any way nas never had one thats way jay,biggie, and 2 pac hate him cause he think he is all thats

curtis jackson it really is me, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
You niggaz must cum to terms dat NAS is da best since the departure of Pac and Biggie . Big up for Nas not dat big suck' lips b-i-tch Jay-Z.

O'Bigan, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
yeahhh!!!! big up for NAS son,but who da fuck are u?some kind of a fag or somethin,u ain't hip hop logo bitch.u desrve ared card out of this site fucker!

embell, Thursday, 26 May 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
One word: Ether (listen to it before sayin that gay-z is king, yall only look like a fool)

^^, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)

First of all I got to say Biggie is my favourite rapper of all time. I like Nas and Jay-Z but I'd say Nas is the best rapper livin'. Everyone talks about Takeover and Ether and I would say Nas won that battle. But listen to what he says Queens niggas run you niggas ask Russell Simmons, Jay-Z went and took over Def jam, he's got Beyonce and now he has more money than Diddy so Nas may have won the battle on wax but Jay-Z won the war in real life.

Simon Sadhoo, Friday, 16 September 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

wow...i had no idea. the horror. the horror.

viborgu, Friday, 16 September 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

im lovin it

amon (eman), Saturday, 17 September 2005 01:51 (twenty years ago)

Nas is the best New York rapper ever after Biggie. Overall he comes third after Tupac Shakur at position one and Christpher Wallace at two. Jigga is good but Nas is better.

Archie, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

nas is a good mc but the batter that came around here is Jigga the kingo of new yourk

Cheqque mate, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

Nas is the King. Fuck Jay-Z !

Erock LAzron, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

NAS IS MY GOD

-- Magic Pig (youngvito693...), January 13th, 2002.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 October 2005 04:59 (twenty years ago)

Fuck a Nas street team.

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 13 October 2005 05:00 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Jay is dope. but nas evaporated him...


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thegmanifesto, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

nine months pass...
bump

am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

fifteen years pass...

Time to REVIVE! A classick ilx beef thread? Let 'em show you how to do it, son.

dow, Saturday, 2 July 2022 00:15 (three years ago)

I hear a lot of interesting rap when cars stop near the intersection where I live. I occasionally hear eighties classics and Spanish pop music. The rap seems out of the mainstream (under development). Sometimes I think kids are practicing raps they want to release as they walk with earbuds.

youn, Saturday, 2 July 2022 02:11 (three years ago)


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