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I can't bear Cat Stevens''Wild World' because the lyrics are so patronising I just want to punch him. I don't mean 'cutting' or 'sarcastic' or even 'insulting', more that it sounds like somebody who really doesn't understand why anybody could be offended, the type who constantly gets drinks thrown over him in the bar and doesn't have a clue why. I feel slightly the same about "White Riot" ("Black people got a lotta problems, but they know how to throw a brick" - great, solves the problem of having to stop redlining loans then) if that's any help as to what I'm getting at. Nu?

― dave q, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That bloke from Sublime singing in a rasta accent. Is this what you mean?

― Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

― dave q, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

There must be some RATM songs which fit - quite possibly Beastie Boys tracks too...

― Tom, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually, the thread title doesn't imply what I was getting at at ALL. How about considering the title to be 'Most smug and patronising song (as opposed to insulting or mocking) that makes you want to punch the singer'? I was thinking of general condescending cluelessness rather than a racial thing.

― dave q, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah Tom, Beastie Boys is more like it. "Oppression of women has got to stop"! And putting go-go dancers in cages was Valerie Solanis' idea, was it?

― dave q, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah but when they (and I say they loosely cos we all know that twat MCA is the main culprity) said all that stuff it hasnt sounded condescending. I mean one line in Sureshot isn't that condescending. It's just funny and ridiculous in a Grange Hill public service type way, "A little shout out to my dad and mom for bringing me into this world and so on"......it's funny. So barefaced hypocrisy maybe (see MCA again for "I smoke cheeba, can't get enough crack, dont smoke cheeba, cant stand crack" howlers) but not condescension, I'll tell you whats condescending, Michael fucking Jacksons Heal the World shite, And all those other songs he had like that. I *hate* MJ.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*hasnt sounded*, I dont know I give up

― Ronan, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wasnt this a nitsuh thread?

― Pennysong Hanle y, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes, on ILE

― nathalie, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What about the Porno for Pyros song "Black Girlfriend". "Ever since the riots, all I really wanted was a black girlfriend, they don't play around, they' re hard enough to keep any man in line".

At first I thought of Elton's "All the Young Girls Love Alice", but that's more of an attack, definitely cutting, sarcastic and insulting. And I really love that song anyway, it reminds me of "The Killing of Sister George" or Fassbinder's "Fox and His Friends". That idea of the gay "underworld" as a nest of vipers, I love that sort of thing, it's so colorful.

― Arthur, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What about "National Express" by the Divine Comedy? They don't get much more patronising than that.

― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, making fun of people's big fat asses is about as far from rapier wit as you can possibly get. That whole record is a great demonstration of how people always mistake clever rhymes for actual wit. Which makes it all the more galling that he claims such a huge love of Magnetic Fields, since Stephin Merritt's clever rhymes are at least occasionally empoyed in the service of decent intellectual content.

― Nitsuh, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A bunch of jocks in America who raped a mentally retarded girl with a baseball bat said that they were acting out the line off a Beastie Boys song on Paul's Boutique (forget what the song is called) that says something about raping the sheriff's daughter with a 'whiffle-ball'(?) bat. The lyric is pretty specific. Ha ha ha guys. I haven't heard them mention that when they complain about the sexual violence at rock shows.

― maryann, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

People doing stuff because it was mentioned in a song = most monstrousest dud ever.

― Nitsuh, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Clawfinger: "Nigger".

As much as I like this tune, it features a bunch of white Swedish folk rapping about how black mpeople shouldn't call each other "nigger". It features a chorus of them shouting: "NIGGER!! Niggerniggerniggernigger!"

― Kodanshi, Wednesday, 19 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I meant "people", as opposed to "M People". They don't refer to a specific band.

― Kodanshi, Wednesday, 19 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'Another Day In Paradise' by Phil ("I'm Leaving This Country If Labour Get In And I Have To Pay Higher Taxes") Collins.

― Andrew L, Wednesday, 19 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah Tom, Beastie Boys is more like it. "Oppression of women has got to stop"! And putting go-go dancers in cages was Valerie Solanis' idea, was it?

I always took it that the "Oppression of women has got to stop" line was an apology for putting go-go dancers in cages (or paying go-go dancers to go in cages, it's not like anyone was forcing them (or were they? is there a secret go-go dancers slave agency in America, how do I get in touch with them regarding my next birthday party?)).

― DV, Thursday, 20 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Fred Durst and Pat Boone

― anthony, Thursday, 20 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Rattle & Hum (And I like a lot of U2 but there are parts of that movie...)

― hans, Thursday, 20 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maryann, number one, that line was from Paul Revere on Licensed to Ill, the only album on which they came out with all that rubbish, arguably because they were being forced into playing the role which the media had created for them following "Fight for Your Right", have a look at the description of Fight for Your Right in the anthology and you see where they are coming from. And number two if you're somehow saying they were responsible or connected in any way to a bunch of sickos using them as an excuse for rape then thats crazy talk.

― Ronan, Thursday, 20 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

To Maryann's anecdote re: the Beastie Boys - I don't know if "I did it like this, I did like that, I did it with the whiffle ball bat" is really "specific" enough to argue that it incites gangrape, but I doubt you want to argue that music has that kind of power in any case. If you're going to go down that road, you might as well blame Tone Loc for the Central Park rape where the men chanted the "wild thing" lyrics or AC/DC for Richard Ramirez or KMFDM for Columbine or Wagner for Nazism etc etc etc. Blaming music for the actions of twisted people is an old trope. If you want to nail them for their own actions, just check out their home video from the "Licensed to Ill" era, where there's a pretty nasty scene of them acting pretty piggish with very young female fans in a motel room.

― fritz, Thursday, 20 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two months pass...

Radio Ga Ga is pretty bad.'We hardly need to use our ears/How music changes through the years'.And yet they lapped it up at Live Aid.I find something patronising about The Power by Suede too - not that I mind the song so much,but something about it smacks of 'I'm a rock star and you're a small person but I can help you with your problems'.

― Damian, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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