Is Rolling Stone anti-gay, anti-accuracy, anti-truth, or just anti-Judas Priest?

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I just hope they did a better job with Wesley Willis.

Judas Priest discography according to RollingStone.com:

Judas Priest, Judas Priest (1986)
The Best of Judas Priest, Judas Priest (1978)
Best of Judas Priest [Gull], Judas Priest
Judas Priest '98 Live Meltdown, Judas Priest (1998)
Best of Judas Priest [Transluxe], Judas Priest
Tribute to Judas Priest: Legends Of Metal, Various Artists
Best of Judas Priest: Living After Midnight, Judas Priest
Hell Bent for Metal: A Tribute to Judas Priest, Various Artists
The Best of Judas Priest: Living After Midnight, Judas Priest (1998)
Tribute to Judas Priest, Vol. 2: Delivering the Go, Various Artists

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)

They're just anti-bands that won't make them any money, is all.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)

They did that one "bug chaser" article awhile back, which read as if it were ripped from the website godhatesfags.com

― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 05:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Here's an alternate discography of more familiar titles as compiled by the RIAA:

BRITISH STEEL 07/23/82 COLUMBIA Gold
SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE 10/29/82 COLUMBIA Gold
SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE 04/18/83 COLUMBIA Plat
DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH 03/26/84 COLUMBIA Gold
TURBO 06/10/86 COLUMBIA Gold
FUEL FOR LIFE 04/03/87 CAPITOL HOME VIDEO Gold
JUDAS PRIEST LIVE 02/17/88 CAPITOL HOME VIDEO Gold
RAM IT DOWN 07/18/88 COLUMBIA Gold
DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH 09/26/88 COLUMBIA Plat
TURBO 07/24/89 COLUMBIA Plat
BRITISH STEEL 08/09/89 COLUMBIA Plat
UNLEASHED IN THE EAST (LIVE IN JAPAN) 11/10/89 COLUMBIA Plat
STAINED CLASS 11/10/89 COLUMBIA Gold
SIN AFTER SIN 11/10/89 COLUMBIA Gold
HELL BENT FOR LEATHER 11/10/89 COLUMBIA Gold
POINT OF ENTRY 11/10/89 COLUMBIA Gold
PAINKILLER 01/02/91 COLUMBIA Gold
SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE 10/16/01 COLUMBIA 2X Platinum
PRIEST...LIVE! 10/29/01

And their songs are licensed for TV ads -- isn't that was the prime requirement for RS, gay band or not?

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 05:13 (twenty-two years ago)

they may have the complete Smiths discography ... so maybe they ain't so anti-gay

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 05:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Why does everybody hate Rolling Stone?

― Mister Snrub (MisterSnrub), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 06:08 (twenty-two years ago)

What about Sad Wings of Destiny or Rocka Rolla?

regards,

REB

― Rik E Boy (Rik E Boy), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 10:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Ian, why were you researching Judas Priest onthe Rolling Stone website?

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Rocka Rolla is underrated. Just thought I'd say that.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

What about Sad Wings of Destiny or Rocka Rolla?

Those above from the RIAA were only the gold & platinums, maybe to make a point.

Ian, why were you researching Judas Priest on the Rolling Stone website?

Ah! Well, it was the only reasonable-looking return from a quick google search. Plus I was looking for DVD info (on the new release that has live Rocka Rolla era TV clips), so what the hell...but that's just scary.

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Ian, there's more info about JP than you could possibly need on the official website, if it's any help:

http://www.judaspriest.com/

They are total fanatics, those Priest fans!

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

>Plus I was looking for DVD info (on the new release that has live Rocka Rolla era TV clips)

You coulda just asked me. I got one in the mail.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay, I'm asking -- how much of this action comes in the box?

http://judaspriest.rockmetal.art.pl/articles/judaspriest73.jpg

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe RS is just anti-Sony/Columbia. The anti-heavy hetal thing just creeps me out.

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Four songs, if I remember right. It also includes all their Halford-era videos, and the Priest...Live! concert, originally on VHS (from the Turbo tour, but still good).

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I got deeply into the 1974-era Priest a few years ago, along with discovering bands like Lucifer's Friend and Flower Travellin' Band. Always I wanted to see what they were like live, since they obviously weren't breathing fire or being held aloft in the paw of a 40-foot metallic cat, a la Defenders of the Faith era.

Late '70s Judas Priest has a lot in common with Tubeway Army, but I've only gotten into their more Numan-esque synth album Turbo album recently. I didn't realize it's not only made using Simmons drums, but guitar synths. Not the new romantic heavy metal crossover it could have been (total suicide), but still has its unusual moments. Nice when elements of Berlin art rock find their way onto an Indiana county fair coke mirror.

http://judaspriest.rockmetal.art.pl/covers/big/turbo.jpg

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow Ian, I thought I was the only one who thought late 70's JP sounded somehow, in some way, like Gary Numan. Not only early Numan and late 70's Priest, but very recent Numan and the last Halford record, 'Crucible'.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

My ears are pricking up at this JP/Numan thought. Eisbar doubtless would think similar.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

This is totally what I look for on ILM--besides a way to avoid writing, I mean.

― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

The last Halford and Numan albums use the either the same, or similar, riffs and scales.

Similarities between JP and Numan must surely be based around the similarity of Rob Halford to Numan? Their cold, defiant, almost nihilistic, slightly narcissistic individualism that occasionally and surprisingly breaks out into great and intense pathos and personal pain?

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Great! I started Dark Noerd as a techno-metal hybrid in 1995, and after the rush of splicing jungle/grindcore dulled, I started thinking about things like this a lot. Hard to get my metal purist or techno snob friends more than vaguely interested. It's taboo.

But I mean, just look at 'em:

http://www.rock-photos.co.uk/photos/priest1.jpg
http://www.lexiconmagazine.com/NWC/img/numan_live3.jpg

Similar lyrical themes early on. And this late '70s artwork is pretty Numanesque:

http://home.earthlink.net/~b_dutt/bhaskar/images/covers/JudasPriest_StainedClass.jpg

There's a comparison of MTV-era Ratt to Numan in Sound of the Beast, but I didn't want to dilute the message by getting into this discussion we're having.

Re: RS, I guess I'm lobbying for acceptance of Judas Priest in the way that Sabbath finally found it about five years ago.

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a comparison of MTV-era Ratt to Numan in Sound of the Beast

Hm...early The Plan era Numan?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

"Wild Nights, Hot & Crazy Days" = proof that 'Who's Next' might've been good for somethin' after all

― dave q, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

(any house remixes of "WN,H&CD" exist?)

― dave q, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

After all the crap piling up over on ILE, seeing one simple sentence from Dave Q makes me so happy.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Re: RS, I guess I'm lobbying for acceptance of Judas Priest in the way that Sabbath finally found it about five years ago.

Judas has no Ozzie on which to hitch their wagon.

― christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

also "Wild Nights..." is the exact same song as Wang Chung "To Live and Die in LA"

― dave q, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Tubeway Army's "Bombers" or "Ice" or "Simple J" are some of the best tracks for making the Priest connection... Conversely, Stained Class, Hell Bent for Leather, and British Steel are the most android Priest albums.

Ned, nah, the Ratt/Numan nexus is all in the chilly airbrushed love songs: Ratt's Invasion of Your Privacy on Numan's The Pleasure Principle. Both rendered in a pukely shade of mauve -- watch what the DJ can do with "Cars" and "You're in Love."

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Techno Panopticon fantasies - eg, 'Electric Eye' vs 'Observer'. And the cold howling quality in the tenor range of both vocalists in their early 80's period (but they've both warmed up a fair bit since then).

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i think i can sorta hear the priest-numan similarities. for some reason, though, the plan and portions of tubeway army remind me of late-era led zeppelin, but w/t the jimmy page-blooz stuff.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Plus there's the recurrence of the words 'steel' and 'metal' throughout JP and Numan. It must be a Midlands thing.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 1 January 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Rob Halford:

http://judaspriest.rockmetal.art.pl/galeria/halford02.jpg

Gary Numan:

http://www.dubhead.purvision.com/deadheaven/pure/pure10.jpg

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 16 February 2004 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

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