Here is why year-end lists are stupid:

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Because you always forget all the stuff you loved from before October. I can't believe I left Nicolai Dunger, Supersilent and Rapider Than Horsepower off my list, not to mention The Streets, etc. I got asked by two magazines for my 'year end' list and both lists were different.

Maybe the gals are right - maybe it's time we all grow up and quit pointlessly cataloging things. And be men. Yes?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

That's why you keep a running tally all year long, then go back and thin it out in December.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahahah surely you're joking!!?! Man, THAT'S why my buddy Nasa prints up 'best of the month' lists all year (he does the same thing with boxers) - I never really made the connection. Shit I am feeling SO goddam cool right now.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Problem # 375995 with the world:

No magazine asked me for my list.

― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 04:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not that anal about it (printing up 'best of the month' lists), but I do keep a .txt file on my computer and whenever I come across something that might be in contention, I add it to the list. By the end of the year, more than HALF of those albums get tossed in one cursory elimination exercise.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)

just combine a bunch of the items other people's year end lists (and maybe throw in one odd one that you can think of that will make people go "oh yeah, that was released this year"

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)

A Nairn, you're evil. But in a human way, like an anti-hero.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 06:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Just copy everything to your computer as you get CDs and sort by year. (I assume Winamp/MusicMatch libraries can do that)

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 06:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"THAT'S why my buddy Nasa prints up 'best of the month' lists all year (he does the same thing with boxers)...."

The mind boggles! Roger, is that "boxers" as in pugilists or "boxers" as in underpants?

If the latter, I'd be intrigued to see what made his top ten of 2003!

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe the gals are right - maybe it's time we all grow up and quit pointlessly cataloging things. And be men. Yes?

I thought that was the whole point about being a man.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, it seems "Elephant" is generally viewed as the best album of 2003 in those surveys, and that one was released on April Fools day. So I suppose the journalists' memory spans aren't too bad after all.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

unlike their taste.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

They are really handy for finding out what was good over the year, downloading it all at once and pretending you were actually paying attention to music the whole year long.

I struggled to come up with a top three for the uni paper, so I just picked the ones I thought would be most interesting to write about. And then it turned out one of them wasn't even released or anything. Putting things in order is hard, especially when people tend to pick these things apart as if they're not totally arbitrary, like DUDE WTF HOW CAN OUTKAST BE TWO PLACES HIGHER THAN BASEMENT JAXX

― Ferrrrrrg (Ferg), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

my beef is how can you write a feature about how so-and-so's new album is one of the "MUST-HAVE records of the year" and then omit it from your year-end list WHICH APPEARS ON THE SAME PAGE??? HOW? ARE YOU THAT THICK THAT YOU THINK NO ONE WILL NOTICE???

Obv, I care too much about this shit.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

What about something that is released today or yesterday? Where does that go if it's the best of the year: on last years list, or next years?

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Alicia Keys probably missed several year-end lists because of a late release date.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

and a crappy album

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone actually reminded Roger (in his opening stanza) that The Streets actually came out the year before last?

― herbalizer12 (herbalizer12), Thursday, 1 January 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

really? surely not in the states?!? shiiiiiiiiit. well the new EP (not released yet) is good too so ppptthh

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 1 January 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

are there really 11 other herbalizers on ILM?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

remember how lots of peopled loved that Soft Pink Truth album?

It hasn't made it on a top album list this year! (cept mine)

― Andrzej B. (Andrzej B.), Friday, 2 January 2004 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)

The Streets came out in '02 in the US too.

― Lewis J. Bateman (Lewis Bateman), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

thats because the soft pink truth album is kak.

― jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

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