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What do you guys like in your pastiche music? I mean the artists who dabble in several genres/scenes/cultures without caring about their credibility within any of them. The whole... taking many different old things and making something new. Arguably... all music made on a sampler is pastiche in some form or fashion but I'm more interested in the artists who get dramatically incestual with their (usually ecclectic) influences. What works and what doesn't?

And are pastiche artists doomed to Beck comparisons? They always seem to come up.....

― Honda, Thursday, 20 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I love PAstiche. Adore it Worship it .

― anthony, Thursday, 20 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I just find it decadent.

― dave q, Friday, 21 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

All pop is pastiche. Some is pastiche in good faith, some in bad.

Stereo Total are pastiche, but invite no Beck comparisons.

― Momus, Saturday, 22 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Explain further momus

― anthony, Saturday, 22 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Pastiche is a great topic. So great that I started a thread on it, 'Ths Uses of Pastiche'. It's out there somewhere, and features heartfelt anti-pastiche arguments from Tim Hopkins, and pragmatic ones from AllyC96.

― the pinefox, Sunday, 23 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ok. I found that thread.

About the pop as pastiche... I was particularly curious about auteristic musicians who are very aware of their own recontextualizations. I'm not sure pop artists fall into this category. The pop-pastiche seems to occur as a byproduct of finding credibility with this genre or that (Eminem as hip hop pastiche). The pastiche artists I was thinking about throw genre-credibility out the window and knowingly mutilate a handfull of styles by mixing it all together.

This is sort of the underbelly of my question: A person with hopelessly ecclectic taste lives in isolation from any sort of "scene". Then they decide to become a musician. Is pastiche the only way out?

― Honda, Sunday, 23 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

twenty-two years pass...

Son of God (B-side to the Mike Flowers Pops version of Wonderwall) is such a good Jesus Christ Superstar pastiche it manages to be better than any of the songs in Jesus Christ Superstar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKsQhsY4hts

― Grandpont Genie, Friday, 3 November 2023 09:18 (two years ago)

...although it could also be argued that it isn't that, but rather a song from the yet to be written musical version of Nikos Kazantzakis's The Last Temptation of Christ.

― Grandpont Genie, Friday, 3 November 2023 09:22 (two years ago)

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