hey, the jesus&mary chain aren't so bad after all.

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So what about 'em besides Darklands (which convinced me they didn't suck) is good? I got Psychocandy a long time ago and was unenthusaiastic.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)

'honey's dead' is a bit like a hybrid version of those two records.

― keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 5 January 2004 06:02 (twenty-two years ago)

try the b-sides comp barbed wire kisses

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 5 January 2004 06:04 (twenty-two years ago)

gygax OTM

tho i like everything they've done

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 5 January 2004 06:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Can't imagine choosing Darklands over Psychocandy.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I can.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, there we are, then.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Darklands beats Psychocandy for me too, but perhaps just because I heard the former first. On reflection, Darklands *is* a stronger record, but only by a whisker. Definitely hit Barbed Wire Kisses and maybe even The Sound Of Speed for top b-sides/rarities action - the Mary Chain are the greatest b-sides band in the world apart from Suede 1992-4 and Pulp 1992-6.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 5 January 2004 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Honey's Dead, i adore more than anything else. even the vaunted Psychocandy. damned sexy album, Honey's Dead is.

― janni (janni), Monday, 5 January 2004 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all about having a big floppy jumper, an even floppier fringe and lolloping about to Far Gone and Out.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 5 January 2004 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

How many people are gonna run out and buy Jesus & Mary Chain after seeing Lost in Translation? I know I'm at least considering it.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

hey!

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:08 (twenty years ago)

this shit's a'ight!

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:09 (twenty years ago)

you make me want to listen to them again, with your blinding enthusiasm.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:10 (twenty years ago)

darklands is really good!

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

Peel Sessions versions of "Psychocandy"-era songs >>> Psychocandy

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)

they gave the world crazy bob gillespie SO FUCK EM

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

Esteban OTM

― login name (fandango), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)

Sound of Speed EP is that good good, despite it's later appearence in their ography.

― El Popo, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

yes its, no it's.

― El Popo, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

actually the wake gave the world bob gillespie... and "automatic" is the JAMC album i always end up putting on.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

its funny i just pulled out 21 Singles tonight. Its all I really know by them, although I heard Psychocandy a while back and really liked My Little Underground.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

Out of the later stuff, 'I'm Cracking Up' or whatever the heck it's called is good.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

saw jim in london on peel night. bit nothingy but the single's nice enough. he was on 6 Music last week. he has moved to devon.

was disappointed on re-buying Automatic but digging out Honey's Dead again was great. Sometimes Always as well.

― koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

They did an acoustic album of sorts in 1994 called Stoned And Dethroned, it is one of my favourite records. The single that came off it "Sometimes Always" is just brilliant, Hope Sandoval's vocals are well dreamy.

Don't bother with William Reid's later solo stuff, apart from the odd song it's awful!

― Louie_Strychnine, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

They are all odd songs!

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

I think "Head On" is a pretty great song.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

haha i was so emphatic on this thread!

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

and so right.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Psychocandy, Darklands, Barbed Wire Kisses remain the key records, but I recently bought the _Come On_ EP and liked it much more than I usually like their later stuff -- cover of "Alphabet Street" = surprisingly strong. I always _want_ to like Honey's Dead but the truth is that "Reverence" ends up sounding like a kid's parody of the more sincere interest in death and degradation featured on the earlier records...

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

I'd "Medium up" the Stoned and Dethroned album as a thing of beauty, with the proviso of adding the single of "Come On" which is a great song with a dull title.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

They really only wrote one song, but it's a damn fine one, from which they created numerous permuations. The 21 Singles comp released a couple of years ago will be acknowledged as their finest album in a couple of years.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

Automatic is a great driving record, I was disappointed when it first came out but I think it's up there with Psycocandy and Darklands. Blues From A Gun is... ginormous. I have everything else they've done, but it all seems a bit indistinguishable.

― holojames (holojames), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

what's the consensus on the new jim reid stuff? and on jim himself as a human being on this planet?

― he-ob, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

he's on radio 6 again this weekend. (sunday 6th november)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/andrew_collins/

he seemed ok last time he was on. had spent years not listening to music but had recently got back into it (chose a pastels track from illuminations to play). new material, from what i've heard, sounds very familiar.

― koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

i should rebuy all of these (i only still have darklands and psychocandy). stoned and dethroned was really good, wasn't it? everyone hated it when it came out for some reason. have these all been remastered with bonus tracks and such?

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I massively hated Stoned and Dethroned when it came out and haven't listened to it since. Should I give it a go?

― Guayaquil (eephus), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

> have these all been remastered with bonus tracks and such?

no. i'm guessing the Barbed Wire Kisses and Sound Of Speed compilations kinda limit the possibility of bonus tracks and 21 Songs has all the singles so... (um, seems that america had a third b-side compilation, confusingly called 'hate rock and roll')

what i would like is the video on dvd and updated with everything since, including teenage lust, which i've never seen.

― koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

I like Darklands the best. "Happy When It Rains" is some kind of masterpiece.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

actually in the US most of their back catalog is unavailable except as an import.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

One of the best band ever and a great live band as well, saw them around five times. They remind me of dirty sex for some reason. I think every album is good to great to classic (Darklands) except for Munki. Always had a feeling people would come back around to Stoned & Dethroned which happens to be the album I play most by them. My roommate, at the time, was at the Los Angeles show when they broke up, I would think because they are brothers they could get past it.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 3 November 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

I was a fan back in the day and saw them live twice, I think. If you can remember the 80s, you weren't really there, as I always say. However, I recently dug out Psychocandy for the first time in a long time, and it hasn't aged all that well. The feedback that once seemed so radical sounds pretty tame in the post-Loveless era. I'd second the prevailing opinion that Darklands is their masterpiece, although my two favorite tracks are non-lp singles: Some Candy Talking and Sidewalking.

I love how both Some Candy Talking and Girls Aloud's Biology both exploit the ultimate empty-signifier pop rhyme of "walking/talking".

JAMC: "I love the way she's walking / I love the way she's talking"

GA: "The way that we walk / the way that we talk.

Great meta-pop minds do think alike.

― John Hunter, Thursday, 3 November 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)

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