I just bought my first Neil Young CD (Decade), Does that make me old officially?

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It was £4.99 in Savacentre, admittedly I haven't played it yet.

Is that the 'right' version of Like a hurricane?

So how old does that make me? When did you succumb?

or who cares?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I was about 13 so chill bro

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm 41 and haven't bought one yet.

― LondonLee (LondonLee), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

You have 1 year left...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Never!!

― LondonLee (LondonLee), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I was thirteen, too, when I "permanently borrowed" by bro's copy of Decade. But I've always felt old anyway.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought in on September 13 1999 (I'm really not as sad as that makes me appear, honest, I just knew I bought it from Amazon.com so I looked it up there....) at which time I would have been just a mere stripling of 36.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

My older brother's copy of "After the gold rush"

― Michael B, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

You either have no taste or you're still young. That is - if you're just "discovering" Neil Young now, then you're coming of age. If you're older and just plain never bought one, then you've got some splainin to do.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

OK I'll splain.

I DIDN't WANT ANY.

Of an artist's oveure, I tend to be attracted to the ones everyone hates.

Lou: Take no prisoners, and Metal Machine music (both LP's bought new)
Dylan: Self Portrait (couldn't find the infamous "Dylan")

Now with Neil, the ones everyone hated are now the ones everyone 'loves' or at least appreciates. I get suspicious when that happens. I saw bits of "Trans" on Old Grey, and laffed a bit. I reckon that's the one to go for.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

The gtr solo of "Like a Hurricane" is in three distinct parts. First there's all the quick disconnected phrases in the lower registers, then the swooping sustained Hendrix-allusive high notes, then the third bit is based on triads rather than single notes.

― dave q, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought Decade aged 15.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I have never bought a Neil Young album but I've picked Decade up in the shop a few times when looking for that elusive third for £20.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)

dave q in best (which is to say specific) musical observation on ilx in several months

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

You need a turntable, Tico

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

me in listening to "like a hurricane" last night for first time in years

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

i must admit some disappointment when the solo ends and the song crashes back into the (first half is quite pedestrian) chorus.

what is that great buzzing in the background of that song anyway? is that a synth?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

i bought decade aged 17, then lost it aged 21 or so

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Does his voice suddenly improve on vinyl Andrew?

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

then the third bit is based on triads rather than single notes

Zzzzzzzz.

― LondonLee (LondonLee), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry, but muso jargon drives me nuts.

― LondonLee (LondonLee), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't play guitar at all Lee and I understood Q's post perfectly - nothing jargonistic at all except maybe "triads" which isn't difficult to work out. Unless yr stuck on the idea of "notes".

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, must say that neither me nor my friend with whom we've talked 'bout "must get this 'Decade' thing surely one day" - for like a coupla decades now - has got it yet...
But I do have my vinyl of 'Trance', obtained on the black market 'bit less than two decades ago :)
(But I'm old anyway, y'kno ;)

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

with Neil, the ones everyone hated are now the ones everyone 'loves' or at least appreciates

I'm not sure that Landing on Water has been totally rehabilitated yet. I'm not sure I follow yer crazy-assed logic here, but you could've done worse (uh do I mean better?) than start w/ that 'un.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually it kinda does, now I think about it! I used to just put up w/his singing etc

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

"muso jargon "

i'm sorry do mean actual description of music as music?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

do YOU mean

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Mind you I don't know why a description sans analysis is getting Ams going so much unless he's just acting superior.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

also has there really been a lot of neil revisionism? unless everyone has suddenly decided that "life" and "trans" are his best lps.... which i'm not ready to concede

how am i "acting superior"? it's just nice to here something other than "this rocks"

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

also i find it a rather pathetic embrace of a kind of know-nothingism when people decry the observation of musical form as "muso jargon"

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I meant technical dissection of something rather than describing your reaction to it as a human being. It's just not my cup of tea, that's all.

― LondonLee (LondonLee), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Landing On Water - file under: "very slippery, not wet 'nuff".

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

what if your reaction to it as a human being (how else could one react? as a koala?) is to observe its musical form????

i deny your dichtomy!

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw the 3 LP set quite cheap at the notting hill record exchange thing but didn't pick it up (already had a few nice bargains). it looked very old, which could mean the crackling vinyl might improve his vocals.

damn.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

dichOtomy

i can't type today sorry

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah it really enhances the vocal when the first line of "helpless" skips 18 times...

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh is Helpless on there? I only know the Dakota Oak version...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)

helpless is the greatest thing he's done IMO

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

or at least it seems to sum up the achievement of his early solo years quite well--it has all the virtues of same and none of the drawbacks

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Many vinyl records do not skip or crackle overmuch

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I meant technical dissection of something rather than describing your reaction to it as a human being. It's just not my cup of tea, that's all.

Trust me when I say that Dave Q was not trying for 'muso jargon' in the po-faced sense.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

when I get old LPs its usually a nice crackling sound. no skips.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i know what you mean, i have really worn-up but mostly skipless copies of "after the goldrush" and "harvest" which i'm hesitant to replace with cds.

likewise i really got a cd copy of "townes van zandt" (s/t) and some of the warm feelings i had toward my old lp copy seem to have departed somewhat

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)

That tends to happen. The old LP hangs around like a cadaver...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

however i think neil young's line about cds sounding like "ice cubes" or whatever is BS

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Ice cubes can sound nice...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Cds sound (to me) kinda boring, which is worse

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

what does that even mean, "cds sound boring"???

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"Ice cubes" is probably a better description than "shit", although I don't agree with either one of them about CDs per se. It's usually the mastering job. Certainly plenty of 1st-generation CD masters were poorly done and sounded "hard" and "boxy", which are also not very good descriptions.

Also, "ice cubes can sound nice" - mark OTM.

― southern lights (southern lights), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Early CDs not only had bad tonal qualities ("hard", etc.) but they had bad pace and rhythm, which could make them sound "boring", or uninvolving. Believe it or not, a better turntable will play more of the music and less of the surface noise of an LP. If the used vinyl you're buying "usually" sounds crackly that's a problem. Or maybe you're buying records that are much too dirty and damaged.

Anyway, when I bought Decade (at 20) I didn't feel like I was getting old, but that I was turning into a hippie.

― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

No - iff you were old you would've worn out your vinyl copy, bought new, and THEN bought the CD.

― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

14 maybe? what year did it come out? me'n'me mates were way into neil. and charles manson for some reason. we used to sit around with acoustic guitars singing "old man take a look at my KNIFE". that or playing the bassline from my sharona. just like regular old folk.

― mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

THere is absolutely NO excuse for anybody on "I love Music" to not own at least one Neil Young CD (preferably either "harvest", "everybody knows this is nowhere" or "after the goldrush")

shame

― geeg, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a note from my mother excusing me.

― LondonLee (LondonLee), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Bah! ...How old is your mother then?

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)

stop it with the mother jargon already.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)

hstencil, i blame you!
of rashly discriminating mothers here!
for how the hell d'you kno that LondonLee's note of excuse does not say, fr'instance, "Please exempt my kid from purchasing Neil Young's Decade, I've already bought a copy for our home decades ago"?

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I doubt it, and I doubt his mom knows what a triad is, either.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

*oscillates wildly*

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that a bad thing?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)

*rolls eyes, bites tongue, slaps left wrist with right hand*

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

*cannot hold back any more*

-- WHAT?

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 01:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Are you saying you bought it when it came out, t\'\'t? That's not old, either, unless you were pretty open-mided, and then hey, you're never "old." I've never bought a Neil Young album. I never forgave him for "Southern Man," frankly. Although I've got a stupendous version of "Old Man" or whatever by Justus Kohncke that has these German-vocals-with-a-cold on top of it, it's great. In other Young-related news, there's a story in the book I'm reading about Buddy Cianci where a Providence concert promoter takes Neil Young to an Italian restaurant on Federal Hill after the show and they find blood spattered everywhere and the mafioso who ran the whole town is eating in the corner. Young's eye's get real wide and he's like "is that the don??" and the concert promoter's like "yes, and now if we leave it's going to be a sign of disrespect."

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought my Trance vinyl in the mid-80s, is wot I meant upthread, and have prolly 'bout a dozen of other Young's - but no Decade.
As per "Southern Man", I've kinda never paid much notice to that particular song and have only a vague impression that 'lotsa people don't seem to stand it' (but then I chased for my first Young records, and paid for them in roubles, on the westernmost frontier of the soviet soddin' empire, so what the hell did I kno anyway).
Regarding covers, I totally love Sidsel Endresen's version of "Birds". It's in English, though.
That post-concert story sounds outright weird.

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:17 (twenty-two years ago)

You should be burning copies of Neil Young CDs like me then yr not old.

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 05:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Just wait.. soon you'll be hitting the Joni. Hard.

― may pang (maypang), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 05:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Gordon and Rita won't be far behind her either.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 05:35 (twenty-two years ago)

i bought my first neil young album at 16 so I dont think you are old.

After the goldrush was a great album especially for 1.98 in 1986

― hector (hector), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 05:57 (twenty-two years ago)

There is no excuse for owning any Neil Young. Possibly the most worthless and most inexplicably popular artist of all time.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 08:14 (twenty-two years ago)

No - iff you were old you would've worn out your vinyl copy, bought new, and THEN bought the CD.

Thank you John Bullabaugh, you have indeed answered my question. I feel better now.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:10 (twenty-two years ago)

There is no excuse for owning any Neil Young. Possibly the most worthless and most inexplicably popular artist of all time

will not take bait, will not take bait... (must breath)

― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:03 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

i have never heard any other music in the world which has the same calming and soothing effect on me. neil's voice is balm for the wounded soul.

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 28 November 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

Hello old thread.

I still haven't placed any of the discs into a CD player of any description.

It's a "must have" collection (c) Mojo.. Just don't actually need to play it.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 28 November 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

THere is absolutely NO excuse for anybody on "I love Music" to not own at least one Neil Young CD

OTM.

But who stops at one? First you get Decade, see, and you listen to half the songs obsessively because you're stunned at how incredibly fucking great they are, and depending on what songs those are you move on to Everybody Knows or Harvest or After The Gold Rush, and then you listen those a million times while getting copies of On the Beach and Rust Never Sleeps and all the Crazy horse stuff, even the live albums, and then one night you find yourself sitting alone on a Friday night listening to Zuma and drinking and understanding his lyrics in a way you never meant to and wondering how it ever came to this.

Ahem.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 7 January 2006 02:36 (twenty years ago)

THere is absolutely NO excuse for anybody on "I love Music" to not own at least one Neil Young CD

This ranks really, really high up on the "massively stupid thing to say" list.

― Dan (Not Everyone Here Is White) Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 7 January 2006 02:41 (twenty years ago)

Alright... let's see the note from your mother.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 7 January 2006 02:43 (twenty years ago)

Still aint played it.

― mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 7 January 2006 19:54 (twenty years ago)

No what makes you old officially is sticking with Neil Young over the decades. Measure of geezerdom = dergee to which one clings to faith/hope that the new Neil could just be a return to form. Ah he's like the Woody Allen of rock...wbut wait the Woodman's shockingly good latest movie may contradict that theory.

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 7 January 2006 20:19 (twenty years ago)

I went first into Buffalo Springfield, then into Neil Young. Listened a lot to For What Is Worth after Public Enemy sampled it for the soundtrack of "He Got Game". Haven't bought any album by NY yet but have listened to a some of them and I have to say that I think I still have a year before i get my first one. I really enjoy the man's music.

26 and counting.

― elgolfo (elgolfo), Sunday, 8 January 2006 03:01 (twenty years ago)

i've owned a few young albums, and he sort of bores me, most of the time. i did like live rust a lot, i should've kept that one.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 8 January 2006 03:07 (twenty years ago)

I am feeling a strong urge to submit Dan Perry to a Clockwork Orange style overdose treatment of "Powderfinger."

Unfortunately, I will have to be satisfied with giving myself a massive overdose treatment of "Powderfinger." Your loss, Perry.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Sunday, 8 January 2006 04:25 (twenty years ago)

I really like the Cowboy Junkies version of "Powderfinger." Not unlike their cover of "Sweet Jane," they get at emotions that are in the lyric but not made as explicit in the original version(s).

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 8 January 2006 07:38 (twenty years ago)

Gawd. About as overrated as the Doors.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Sunday, 8 January 2006 08:30 (twenty years ago)

Yikes. I can't stand the Doors.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 8 January 2006 09:13 (twenty years ago)

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