Do you like session outtakes stuck on the end of CD reissues?

I don't even like reissues (unless the originals were out of print.)

(1 o' the shortest threads evah?)

'It depends', would be my unoriginally boring answer.

Hate, hate bonus tracks. If I could scratch 'em out with a coin or my keys i would. Usually they're most inferior, esp the ones tacked on to classic albums. My least fave? The remix of 'Criminally Insane' tacked on to the end of 'Reign in Blood by Slayer. I can't get the CD out of my walkman fast enough. Completely ruins the psychological aftermath of that near perfect record.

No great fan of the half-finished tracks at the end of the Judas Priest remasters either.

Ok, ok.

But I mean the session bits with the producer and some band member discussing the monitors before the band starts. Then the band stops because someone hit a sour note or something.

What's the point of putting that on a CD? It's kind of fun to hear the first time, though.

Oh, sorry. Classic if on reggae or dub record from 1975.

On the new Let it Be (beatles) deal they had an extra disc with 20 minutes of random talking that you could hardly make out with occasional musical interludes. Sadly many people probably enjoyed it.

'interesting' Extra's on an extra CD..

Good extra tracks are allowed on the first CD, with a gap between.

Those are the rules, thesedays.

yeah i totally do! case in point: the who "sell out" reissue.

dumbest way of putting extra tracks on is to put multiple versions of the smae song in order -- like the soul stirrers reissues or what columbia did with that robt. johnson box -- fuck it, gimme the original albums if you're gonna do it that way (unless it's the "fun house" box which is its own insane exercise and yes i have listened to it all the way through several times).

Usually hate 'alternative' versions of original songs. It can be interesting (or even better than the original), but it annoys me. The song is the song that was released. Right?

mark grout & yetimike OTM

I don't want singles/b-sides added either, unless the record was just a mishmash/hodgepodge of songs to begin with. .. Put them on a separate disc.

Well, I certainly prefer the alternate takes being stuck at the end of the CD rather than haphazardly in the middle of the original track order (yes, I am a rockist)
Usually alternate takes are just freaking boring, the only exceptions are really bands that improvise a lot, so often alternate takes on jazz albums can actually be quite nifty.
Still, it's lame that I have to program Bill Evans' Sunday at the village vanguard every time I want to play it, because they've put the alternate versions of songs directly after the regular versions throughout the whole CD. Booo!

Here's a top tip for those who don't like extra tracks, b-sides etc on the CD reissues.

1. When it get's to the end of the regular album, press stop on the CD player.

2. Eject the disc.

3. Replace with another disc.

4. Repeat as necessary

What if we accidentally glue our CD player shut and the stop and skip song buttons don't work?

Adding that kind of responsibility and manual labor diminishes the listening experience.

I love outtakes tacked onto the end of records - I'm pretty disappointed if I pick up one of those lovely Verve digipaks and there aren't nine false-starts and an alternate edit filling out the disc.

one word: autocue.

Also, anyone with a sampler loves those bits: all the more chance of a 'clean' bassline/break.

I've got this amazing set of outtakes from the 'good vibrations' sessions that i used to try to reassemble, because, if done right (and using bits of the actual record) it would sound even better, IMO. Never got round to it.

Studio talk: Can be interesting/enjoyable if of 'historical interest' or if the band is accomplished enough to be creative (like Deep Purple having a bash at "12th Street Rag" or "Sailor's Hornpipe" during the "In Rock" sessions.)

Outtakes: Depends.

Alternate takes: Usually useless unless we're talking jazz.

Alternate mixes: For record production wannabes (or gonnabes) only.

And, of course, ALL this stuff should be tacked onto the end of a disc, ideally w/an extra-long pause, if not on a completely separate disc. (An exception would be something like that aforementioned "Fun House" box, which I myself have never listened to in one sitting. Nice feat, yetimike - now try listening to 'Metal Machine Music' straight thru, twice!)

Studio Talk Hall of Fame(officially released division): The unlisted segment of tape hidden on the end of The Notorious Byrd Brothers where David Crosby and Michael Clarke arguing about which one of them screwed up the take.

I'm not a big fan of bonus tracks but they are fine if there is a gap of around 5 seconds after the last track of the real album. I want to hear the thing as it was meant to be heard at the time.

Charles McCain OTM. That is brilliant stuff, Crosby is hilarious.

Also, that radio interview at the end of Fifth Dimension is genius.

Fer fuck's sake, if you don't like session outtakes at the end of a CD, DON'T LISTEN TO THEM!!!! If you really want to hear the album the way they intended, buy a fucking record player!!

I swear, kids these days...

Thread idea; if you download remastered 60s albums, do you download the skits at the end?

X-P Scott Bloomfield: "Metal Machine Music" all the way through twice?

I used to have MMM on 8-track actually (!) and once I drove from Chattanooga to NYC in a '72 Cutlass Supreme -- smooth V8 sailing all the way -- and I must have listened to MMM like 4 times through. But then, I'm one of few people I know who actually really LIKES that record. I think it's more than LR just taking the piss; really, it's some rad chirping reverb electronic bird music...

And you can't listen to the LP version "all the way through" even once because of the locked groove on side 4.

For those people who suggest I should take the CD out rather than hear the extra tracks: well, duuuh! The problem is that you have to jump up and do it, where you may prefer for aesthetic reasons to bask in the afterglow of the record's psychological halo. Those bonus tracks make you have to jump up when you would rather digest.

Get a CD player with a remote control.

Session outtake (of the kind described by Debito above) that I like:
Bringing a song to a halt, Lux Interior gets pissed and yells at someone in the studio. Bonus track on the Songs the Lord Taught Us CD