Anyone have any info? I feel like it somehow matters.
― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― may pang (maypang), Thursday, 8 January 2004 04:13 (twenty-two years ago)
I might e-mail the Californian artist guy. It would be pretty cool if he turned out to be some regular bloke, who's life happens to have brushed past and contributed to *genius*.
Had a quick look in Brian Wilson's 'autobiograohy'. It barely mentions Sunflower, except to say that Elton John popped in when they were recording and played Brian a bunch of songs. He was amazed apparently.
― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Thursday, 8 January 2004 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 8 January 2004 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― rw, Thursday, 8 January 2004 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:44 (twenty-two years ago)
If anyone has any then speak now...
― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― maypang (maypang), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)
Ned otm about his life before and after, I think it's fascinating to think that his life somehow ran parallel to something that damn amazing.
― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)
The Beach Boys story is strangely full of "unknowns" who collaborated with them all-too-briefly (Roger Christian, Tony Asher, David Sandler, Jack Reiley, Steve Kalinich). Maybe there's only so much arguing an outsider could take...
― harveyw (harveyw), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)
I will post the answers that I get back. Initially, he seems like a really nice guy.
― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― harveyw (harveyw), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)
Harvey, that's really cool. Did you write it up? I'd love to read it. The more I think about this there's a really interesting story to be told about The Beach Boys' (not just Brian's) collaborators.
― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)
As for who might be interested in publishing your Burchman piece, I think it's really limited to the various online Beach Boys communities, unless he has some skeletons in the closet (although I believe a print fanzine called -what- 20:20? has recently been set up. Will try to get contact details to you). Not wishing to diminish its value, but, as with my Sandler piece, I think "peripheral" hits the nail on the head.
― harveyw (harveyw), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)
Ned, cheers for the advice.
I suppose I'll see how it turns out and work from there.
― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)
Re Beach Boys fanzine, it is indeed called 20/20, and the editor (Brian Davies) can be contacted on irwelloceanblue@hotmail.com. Good luck.
― harveyw (harveyw), Friday, 20 February 2004 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)
Aside from the general interest I'd have in hearing this little moment, White says the version has lyrics that are far superior. As suspect as his judgement was (was "California Feeling" REALLY the best song Brian had written since "God Only Knows"?), in a world where people go well out of their ways to cover unofficial versions of Beach Boys songs (see that version on Smiling Pets of "Good Vibrations"), this one strikes me as something of a Holy Grail.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 20 February 2004 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)
I wrote the basic lyric for the song "It's About Time" on July 2nd 1970,when I was 24 years old. I met Dennis Wilson a shorttime before then, perhaps in May or June of that year,through one of my closest and dearest friends fromJunior High and High School, Barbara Charren, whowould soon become Dennis's wife, and mother of two ofhis children, Michael and Carl. Barbara had metDennis one night while she was working the cashregister at Hamburger Hamlet restaurant in WestwoodVillage, here in L.A. I was living in Hawaii with mywife and newborn son at the time when Dennis andBarbara started dating, and so it wasn't until wereturned to Los Angeles that I finally got to meet'the new boyfriend'. I must admit that I was not ahuge Beach Boy fan at that time. My musical leaningswere more toward Marvin Gaye, Otis Redding, JamesBrown, Sly and the Family Stone, Smokey Robinson andThe Miracles, The Beatles, Bob Dylan, and JoniMitchell. And I had had the impression from watchingearly Beach Boy film footage, that Dennis was a bittoo cocky and not the world's greatest drummer. So Iwas not really expecting to like Dennis all that much,when my wife and I invited Barbara and him over fordinner to meet. But the truth is I liked him. He wasquite charming, low key, and very funny. We sat oncushions around a low Japanese style table in ourliving room eating some sort of asian vegetariancuisine, as I remember. At one point in the eveningDennis mentioned to me that Barbara had told him whata good poet and lyricist that I was, and asked me if Iwould recite something for him to hear. I recited twoor three lyrics that I were fresh in my mind, andDennis was blown away. "Wow! I wasn't expectingthat", he said. He went on to tell me that he wasworking on a track for a new Beach Boy album, and thathe wanted me to come down to the studio and write thelyric for this piece. Within a week I was at BrianWilson's Bel Air estate/studio to hear the work inprogress. Dennis ran off a cassette tape copy for me,making me promise not to let anyone hear it. I tookit home with me and listened to the track a few timesto get a feel for what the music was saying to me. Then I drove to shady spot in Benedict Canyon here inL.A., parked my car and began writing, as I played andreplayed the track over and over on my portablecassette player. The lyric literally took me 20minutes to complete. It came in a flash. I don'tthink I've ever written a lyric that quickly since.
― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Friday, 27 February 2004 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)
just want to point out that is Gregg Turkington on lead vocals (ie, Carl's parts)... yes, "Neil Hamburger" doing a note for note rendition of the pet sounds version of "good vibrations".
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 27 February 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― dleone (dleone), Friday, 27 February 2004 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Friday, 27 February 2004 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 February 2004 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 27 February 2004 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)
Wow, it's just like the time he met Manson.
― maypang (maypang), Friday, 27 February 2004 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)