Brazilian Music

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I was just wandering what you there in the UK know about brazilian music i guess its not much but im curious about it

victor campos, Saturday, 22 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Most of it sounds very Beck-influenced

dave q, Saturday, 22 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

to see what people here said previously, try here

also, on caetano veloso

and tom ze

gareth, Saturday, 22 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

My guess is that most people here are fairly familiar with Brazilian music of 1960-1975 -- bossa nova and Tropicalia in particular. But I get the feeling you mean modern Brazilian music, right?

In which case ... I sure don't know much. Don't know about everyone else, though.

Nitsuh, Saturday, 22 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'm a Brazilophile, having spent some time in your lovely country. I'm particularly into mangue (mangrove) beat and northeast rythms in general. As for MPB, I love Milton, Caetano, Arto, Chico, Tom ze, Clara Nunes. I'm currently getting into the 70s funk thing, eg Jorge Ben, Trio Mocoto etc. Also, I've just heard some Nelson Cavaquinho and Carlos Cachaca and am well impressed.

Daniel, Saturday, 22 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

the blue brazil series on blue note really opened my eyes to brazilian music, Joyce, Milton banana trio, etc.. etc.. very good introduction to brazilian jazz music anyway...

jk, Sunday, 23 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Years ago I worked with a bunch of Brazilian fellows, and they were a sweet bunch of guys. But what really stuck with me is that I asked one of them what it's like there, and he was saying how nice and friendly it was, and that there was dancing in the streets. Dancing in the streets! This concept is so foreign to me Brazil almost seems like a different planet. It's actually a pleasant reminder that not everyone lives the same way you do, and that other ways may well be better.

Sean, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

six years pass...

anyone know anything about the 60s/70s era musician Tuca? She was a guitarist largely responsible for the sound of 2 of my top 10 all-time favorite records, Nara Leao's DEZ ANOS DEPOIS & Francoise Hardy's LA QUESTION. She apparently recorded 3 albums under her own name, I don't think they have been released on cd. Anyone have these?

gershy, Saturday, 19 April 2008 04:13 (sixteen years ago) link

TS: Laura Nyro vs. Nara Leao

PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 19 April 2008 04:32 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

A seemingly exhaustive intro to everything Joao Donato:

http://www.bjbear71.com/Donato/joao.html#Index

PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 29 May 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

The woman who put that together is a trip. Check out the rest of her site- has the same for a bunch of arrangers and composers. Including like a dozen poems she wrote for Claus Ogerman

Bangelo, Saturday, 29 May 2010 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Also about two years late but Tuca's "Dracula I Love You" is very good

Bangelo, Saturday, 29 May 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

; )

What do you do when there's a user with, like, sixty of 'em? (velko), Saturday, 29 May 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Nice website and the links too.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 30 May 2010 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm partial to Lula Cortes & Ze Ramalho' Paebiru, and the Satwa disc. The 1st 2 Gal Costa records are excellent. Caetano Veloso is consistently pretty interesting but he waxes a bit loungy for me at times, hence my preference for his 1st couple of records & Azul (I think that was the name). Those at least sound like the punch in the lounge was dosed with ayahuasca.

ImprovSpirit, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

The separate Veloso c or d thread has me wanting to obtain numerous albums of his.

Caetano Veloso S and D

The bossa thread has numerous items I should get too. bossa nova: S&D

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

veloso's '69 self-titled is great, the a-side is perfect. "the empty boat" was the track that really got me into tropicalia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjNanbciqSE

(e_3) (Edward III), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

currently listening to fairly cheeseball sub-Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 reissue of an album by D'Angelo (no, not that D'Angelo) - pretty fun and campy. includes a bunch of early Tim Maia covers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Ej6UvAmEU

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

you can hear a mixture of stuff here - http://bmabrazil.bandcamp.com/

DavidBrazil, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

I just had a dream, not long before waking up, that I was reading a Nabisco post in which he mentioned the fact that there was a year when the only instrument used in Brazilian music was the theremin. (I don't think it was said explicitly in the post, but I understood this to be the result of some weird government censorship.)

Read ILM less and I end up dreaming about it. :(

Khalifa Hilter (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 14 April 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

New Maria Rita. Warning: turn up your volume, this first one is very quiet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB8PUvKUdaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_gI8tfXrII

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 21 October 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I wonder how popular she is in Brazil?

curmudgeon, Friday, 21 October 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Pretty sure she is quite popular.

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks. Not that it matters, I like her anyway, but I was just curious whether her style still reached a large audience there.

curmudgeon, Friday, 21 October 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually, looking at the Brazilian sales figures for her albums on Wikipedia, she doesn't sell very big. She could still be big, but possibly she is a lot less popular than I thought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Rita#Discography

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

My late Summer love of 2011 was Burnier e Cartier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XF5jW8p7Qo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuMN5MghZwk

███★★★███ (PappaWheelie V), Friday, 21 October 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Come learn the 4 most popular Brazilian dances in fun 3 sessions; Zouk, Samba de gafieira and Forro, and Samba no pe!

email from a meetup group I joined, but alas my schedule won't work for these series of lessons

curmudgeon, Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

Zouk?

MIke Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 April 2012 01:11 (twelve years ago) link

Has it moved from the Caribbean to Brazil?

curmudgeon, Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link

Can I pop into this thread to note what a fantastic album the late Suba's Sao Paulo Confessions (2000) is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJGQGsY6p_g

Sanpaku, Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:53 (twelve years ago) link

Has it moved from the Caribbean to Brazil?

Apparently. Look up Zouk-Lambada in Wikipedia

zing left unguarded, the j/k palace in flames (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

Interesting.

Regarding Papa Wheelie's fave from last year that I forgot to look into. Need to check later and see if on Spotify

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Burnier-e-Cartier-LP-1976-Folk-Psych-Brazil-Rare-HEAR-/380320469777

curmudgeon, Monday, 9 April 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

http://soundcloud.com/bm-a/sets/the-new-brazilian-music-vol-4

This is popular with European whirled music djs

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 03:21 (twelve years ago) link

I like it too

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 03:53 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.whatslater.com/

a fair amount of Brazilian music coverage on this guy's blog of his writing

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

MAGA BO - QUILOMBO DO FUTURO

and a remixed version out. He's an American who moved to Brazil. Haven't listened yet but the press release claims

The original tracks united the organic subtleties of the Afro-Brazilian rhythms coco, maculelê, samba, gong and capoeira with the punchy, powerful, electronic based sounds of dub, raga, hip hop and dubstep. Batucada and bass, mids, treble. TUDO. The remixes take the tracks even further….

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

The wonderful Choro das 3 is finishing up a US tour with some shows in NYC, especially on at Barbes next Thursday: http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/showthread.php?95822-Choro-das-Tres-US-tour-May-July-2013

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 July 2013 14:30 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

This festival going on right now for a few more days: http://www.ny.savassifestival.com.br/

I Am the Cosimo Code (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

http://cinemaguild.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TCGS&Product_Code=2458

But have you seen the recent Gilberto Gil movie doc Viramundo?

curmudgeon, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

anyone know anything about the 60s/70s era musician Tuca? She was a guitarist largely responsible for the sound of 2 of my top 10 all-time favorite records, Nara Leao's DEZ ANOS DEPOIS & Francoise Hardy's LA QUESTION. She apparently recorded 3 albums under her own name, I don't think they have been released on cd. Anyone have these?

― gershy, Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:13 AM (5 years ago)

gershy, are you me? I have 2 of the Tuca LPs: Meu Eu and Dracula, I Love You
don't love them as much as the Leao and (especially) Hardy LPs, but there's something about her: like people you meet with the same birthday as you. plus I play Villa-Lobos -influenced acoustic guitar. Dracula... has a lot of personality.

Paul, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

But have you seen the recent Gilberto Gil movie doc Viramundo?
Nope, but I did see it mentioned on the Tom Jobim thread, I believe.

I Am the Cosimo Code (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 September 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

I forget on what thread we were discussing books about Brazilian music, but I just saw mention of this recent effort:

Ickes, Scott. 2013. Afro-Brazilian Culture and
Regional Identity in Bahia, Brazil. Gainesville: University Press of
Florida.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 15:16 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

Can I pop into this thread to note what a fantastic album the late Suba's Sao Paulo Confessions (2000) is?

http://www.youtube.com/v/TJGQGsY6p_g&fs=1&hl=en

― Sanpaku, Sunday, April 8, 2012 7:53 PM (2 years ago Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, it's good for late at night or like, early in the morning if it's raining.

how's life, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 10:36 (ten years ago) link

A very wet album.

how's life, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 20:50 (ten years ago) link

I wish I hadn't taken so long to find out about this! It would have fit in well with the DJ Food and Amon Tobin I was listening to at the time it came out.

how's life, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 21:07 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye_0WAFu7IQ

I'm in love with this. Sort of a lost Brazilian freak folk album. Backstory: both girls shared a farm with a photographer and had kids with him (!)

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 03:37 (ten years ago) link

Modern Brazil - s/d

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 03:50 (ten years ago) link

It's not 'modern'. 1979 record

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 04:02 (ten years ago) link

That was just a reminder to myself regarding that other Brazilian music thread

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 14:23 (ten years ago) link

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerto_Sinf%C3%B4nico_Legi%C3%A3o_Urbana_-_Rock_in_Rio
In addition to the one with Herbert Vianna on vocals there seems to be a multi-vocalist sing-a-long at the end.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 05:23 (one year ago) link

I see others versions by Simone, Tiee, Daniel and Raça Negra.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 15:24 (one year ago) link

Listening to Legião Urbana now, “Que país é este.”

I was talking about the song itself, not the album. Paralamas also did a good version for their Acústico MTV album.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 00:15 (one year ago) link

Which album Dado Villa-Lobos played on.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 00:17 (one year ago) link

Lots of covers of “Tempo Perdido,” although there are also other songs with that to add confusion.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 00:37 (one year ago) link

With that title.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 00:37 (one year ago) link

Including one by Paolo Ricardo, the lead singer of RPM, not that I know anything about either apart from the names. Maybe the first, self-titled Legião Urbana album was originally supposed to be called RPM, but they had to change it because the other band had just put out a record.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 10:15 (one year ago) link

Eh, not quite. The album title in question that RPM used so Legião Urbana couldn’t was Revoluções por minuto.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 10:22 (one year ago) link

Just noticed that Paolo Ricardo’s second solo album Psico Trópico was produced by the famous, the infamous or at least ubiquitous and omnipresent Liminha, who first came to fame playing bass in Os Mutantes on their third album and then went on to produce tons of albums including classics like Paralamas’s Selvagem? and Titãs’s Cabeça Dinossauro in 1986 alone.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 10:37 (one year ago) link

leave RPM behind, they're bad

fpsa, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:16 (one year ago) link

Simone getting a Latin Grammy Lifetime Achievement award.

https://www.grammy.com/news/latin-recording-academy-announces-2023-special-merit-award-honorees

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

Muito obrigado!

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 20:53 (one year ago) link

What about Rogério Flausino and Jota Quest, are they in your killfile?

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 July 2023 12:51 (one year ago) link

jesus christ, yes

fpsa, Thursday, 20 July 2023 13:05 (one year ago) link

Haha I don't know the artist but feel instinctive revulsion towards any musical act that calls themselves "Jota Quest".

Would play a Brazilian bootleg dreamcast game called that tho.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 20 July 2023 13:57 (one year ago) link

There are a couple of stories of how they got that name. One involves Tim Maia.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 July 2023 13:58 (one year ago) link

LU's "Índios" seems to briefly melodically quote "Chantilly Lace."

Paralamas’s “Busca Vida” seems to do the same for “#9 Dream.”

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 July 2023 22:23 (one year ago) link

TIL that Lulu Santos was once in a band with Patrick Moraz of Yes (and The Moody Blues) called Vímana.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 July 2023 23:04 (one year ago) link

I forgot that Rita Lee had been married to Arnaldo Baptista for a few years and maybe never quite knew how big she really became in Brazil.

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 July 2023 00:30 (one year ago) link

Moraz's solo album Story of i features a number of Brazilian sequences, he even sketched drawings of South American percussion instruments for the liner notes.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 21 July 2023 01:04 (one year ago) link

^high energy performance from Paralamas at the first Rock in Rio concert in 1985

Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 July 2023 02:02 (one year ago) link

just getting around to hearing the arthur verocai s/t from '72 after, oh i'd say a decade of being aware of it.

i don't know if i would've like it so much back then. absolutely loving it this evening.

― budo jeru, Friday, July 14, 2023 7:49 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://www.lincolncenter.org/series/summer-for-the-city/jazz-estandaacute-morto-arthur-verocai-with-orchestra

Deflatormouse, Monday, 31 July 2023 02:05 (one year ago) link

Na minha cidade, no interior

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 31 July 2023 09:14 (one year ago) link

xp just saw that! unfortunately i already flew to NYC once to see music this summer. and the show in chicago, a bit closer to me, is like $50! let us know if you go

budo jeru, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 01:35 (one year ago) link

it's free and only 2 or 3 miles away from me, so unless something comes up i'll probably go!

Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 01:54 (one year ago) link

This has a very late summer feeling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmhO7iCrC2E

bbq, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 06:53 (one year ago) link

verocai tomorrow in nyc! got my tickets for the express line

fpsa, Friday, 11 August 2023 00:03 (one year ago) link

Cool

The Original Human Breadbox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2023 04:24 (one year ago) link

let us know how it goes!

corrs unplugged, Friday, 11 August 2023 10:56 (one year ago) link

^

budo jeru, Friday, 11 August 2023 15:37 (one year ago) link

I have never felt later to a party than about this: despite being a bossa-nova fan since my early 20s, it was literally in April that somebody mentioned Elis Regina and I said “heard of her, is she good?” and the person to whom I was speaking immediately played me Aguas de Março for the first time. I can’t believe I’d never heard it before? It is handily my new #1 “favourite song ever recorded”, like I am destroyed by it

Ha, I remember I first heard of her because I was talking about some Brazilian stuff in an elevator in graduate school, probably some Tropicalia or Bebel Gilberto, and some stranger piped up to tell me about Elis Regina.

The Original Human Breadbox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2023 16:55 (one year ago) link

Feel like it’s hard to get a handle on all the things going on in Brazilian music for various reasons.

The Original Human Breadbox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2023 17:09 (one year ago) link

It is so weird that I missed it! Joao did a version of that song that I MUST have heard at some point, I guess it just bled into the surrounding tracks. I mentioned it to a friend this morning over text and he showed me two pairs of music friends who'd covered the Regina/Jobin version, and I just hadn't noticed. God. What other monuments to musical genius are residing in my blind spots, I wonder!

za za zey za

budo jeru, Friday, 11 August 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link

so i'm here and, uh... did na boca do sol go viral on tik tok or something??

Deflatormouse, Friday, 11 August 2023 23:01 (one year ago) link

i've been to a million free shows here and never seen a line like this for anything ever

Deflatormouse, Friday, 11 August 2023 23:03 (one year ago) link

zoomers were climbing onto forklifts in the street to watch Arthur Verocai LOL

https://i.ibb.co/X2zprw7/IMG-20230811-212017385-2.jpg

Deflatormouse, Saturday, 12 August 2023 02:20 (one year ago) link

You wanted a field report, well, by 6:30 the line stretched 3 and a half blocks. I think at that point, most of us understood we weren't getting in, but had decided on standing by to listen from the street. Verocai came on around 8:30 after an interminable DJ set and multiple fawning introductions.

Renditions were note perfect, as you'd expect. They played the album out of sequence, starting with the instrumentals- this postponed the revelation that, for a guy who must be pushing 80, his voice hasn't really aged. It certainly crossed my mind that I might as well be listening to the record from the comfort of home.

But in this context the beauty and depth of the music stood out. So did its anonymity. Makes perfect sense as a crate digger's holy grail, an expertly composed and arranged record that vibes and just needs someone to put a face on it. My friend compared it to library music along similar lines- super OTM. Reaffirmed what I've always felt about the LP (that it's really, really good; that it's not quite the masterpiece it thinks it is)

Presumably some influencer blew this up on social media. I don't know if Adrian Younge is famous enough to account for the popularity of this event on his own or not. Very cool to see Brazilian music from the 70's *fucking finally* getting this kind of love in America!!! Of course it's for the album that conforms the most neatly to an auteur mentality of the Great Gothic Genius all too prevalent in the anglosphere...

Deflatormouse, Saturday, 12 August 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link

had several thoughts yesterday

• the crowd seemed very hip/fashionable – no idea where that came from tbh
• loved to hear lots of classics played before during the dj set – baden powell, tim maia, bethania...
• loved the concert a lot despite a bunch of stuff hahah
• • kinda felt that sometimes drums/bass and some of brass went more jammy/heavy handed than the record. there's a vibe that is hard to achieve again on most of recorded brazilian music between 71 and 76
• • hated the way vocals were handed. I think the live mix is partly to blame – a very clean sound, which made it hard for vocals... they were almost struggling to get it out sometimes. the vocals (as most stuff again from the era) will be these lowkey melodies, hummed and harmonized. maybe some reverb would've helped here, idk
• • at the same time, the female singer was too hammy (she's also a former actress in a very, very bad sketch comedy show in Brazil, can't even believe that). like a very bad caricature of what emotion sounds like, we like to call this som de barzinho in Brazil

all in all thought, it was really cool to see and hear him so revered. his attitude through the concert was also a mix of cool/humble that was <3. and it was kinda cool to hear him attempt to do a small rap at some point hahaha.

ps. also got choked up by the homage the jazz is dead folks did for joão donato beforehand. amazing.

fpsa, Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:06 (one year ago) link

also wtf is people clapping randomly before the music is even finished? makes no sense

fpsa, Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link

this footage appeared as part of the Donato homage – amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lbZ0kcR_48

fpsa, Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link

some of brass went more jammy/heavy handed than the record.

i noticed that too. just personally, the performance didn't deviate enough from the record for my liking, but then when it did it wasn't great.

ps. also got choked up by the homage the jazz is dead folks did for joão donato beforehand. amazing.

oh i missed that!! (took a walk)

Deflatormouse, Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:39 (one year ago) link

Was just thinking that, despite not being as canonical as Elis & Tom, the album Elis & Toots is still top shelf.

No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 August 2023 12:41 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Somebody told me to listen to Renato Russo's Italian album so here I am:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i0nqpy6EgM

Sir Lester Leaps In (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 November 2024 17:50 (yesterday) link


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