Oasis - Classic or Dud?

I got as far as the bus stop when I realised that I had two album 1's.

Went back got an exchange. There that got yer.

Oh well.

I just think they were in the right place at the right time.

Gold or beans? Definitely beans.

Also, in what sense, exactly, were they "indie"?? Certainly not in the label sense. And not in the music sense either, near as I can tell. I mean, they were a vaguely glammy guitar-pop band. Period - about as "indie" as the Black Crowes. And about as close to being the Beatles as the Crowes were to being the Stones, too. (So I could ask how they were "obnoxious," as well, but then again, I only listened to the music and never read the interviews, which might explain it.)

Steepest decline: Lauren Hill, Tricky, Prince or Stone Roses?

And "Wonderwall" really is one of their worst songs I've never understood why it was their "breakthrough hit" in the US - certainly it was the only thing I ever heard on the radio. "Don't Look Back in Anger" was soooo much better.

I've always noticed this prob. on ILM between the Brits and Americans...it's like America has this very defined idea of "indie" (usually a record label thing) and in England it's like....4 Guys....Guitar music....not heavy metal or mohawk-type straight up punk....It's Indie!

Then again, if it is strictly about record labels, then Depeche Mode and New Order were "indie" bands.

So are Third Eye Blind and Smashmouth indie too, then? (I forget if they had four guys, but they definitely fit the rest of your definition.)(I mean, it's taken me a while to understand the whole "indie is kind of music" rather than "indie is something on an indie label" line, but even the "kind of music" that people usually refer to as indie doesn't usually include plain old mainstream rock bands, right?) (Unless they're, I dunno, My Morning Jacket. Or the Drive By Truckers. Or the Kings of Leon. And so on. But that's NOW; back in the '90s indie kids HATED mainstream rock, I always thought.)

Well, sorta. The way it actually worked is that the band signed to Sony worldwide and *then* were licensed back to Creation.

LET'S SETTLE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL: Indie and all its subgenres (indie-rock, indie-dance, etc.) are NOT styles of music. They're a description of what commercial demographic you're marketing your records to, as well as if the companies that produce the records are owned by the five "majors" currently in existence. There's no such thing as indie in the musical sense, and that's why ILM has such a hard time describing indie: because it doesn't exist!

Yes you should. ;-) The first formal Sony/Creation deal on a labelwide level was late 1992, when Sony bought in for just under half of Creation.

Neither classic nor dud. They got some good suff and some real rubbish.

I got presale codes for Toronto. They could sense that I’ve still hung onto those first two albums singles box sets that look like B&H packs and deemed me a loyal fan. 🤘

Have fun. I only saw them once, the very famous show at the Roxy in Hollywood where Liam was doing lines on stage and being an ass.

I think I own all albums and CD singles, have the complete set. Maybe I do need to go to this thing?

They've added a second date at the Rose Bowl.

Have fun. I only saw them once, the very famous show at the Roxy in Hollywood where Liam was doing lines on stage and being an ass.

Sounds more like the Cokesey, amirite?

Your right.

Still hard to believe that there are Two dates at the Rose Bowl.

Xpost

Yeah I was not expecting a second date announcement. Crazy. Well, guess you and I can say we were there, man. (Were you at the label party beforehand? I was, everything seemed fine there!)

Second date at MetLife too! Crazy. I guess we'll see if they actually sell out.

Yeah it does seem crazy — do *that* many Angelenos or NYers really want to see this band?!? — and yes, there are a *lot* of British expats in S. California — but I would wager a good amount of money that what's driving this is all the concert tourists who will travel from all over the planet to see this band on a vacation in an attractive/legendary/whatever city/region. (Chicago, it seems, does not have the same allure.) I think there was a line somewhere that when the initial UK/Europe dates went on sale, there were 10 million people, from 158 countries, chasing 1.4 million tickets (or whatever it ended up being). So, they look here. 'Eras' tour in reverse, as Maximillion said upthread. These shows are almost more like fan conventions featuring a concert.

oops cut off, sorry for the garble... meant to say

These shows are almost more like fan conventions featuring a concert than a simple concert.

Got my tix!

I think many British people are seriously underestimating how big Oasis was outside the UK. They'd easily sell out stadiums in continental Europe as well.

the western world still buying the top British exports: gruel weetabix and music that reminds me of eating dry weetabix straight out of the box.

It was some Mojo style "Oasis" magazine, I went through and saw that every LP had charted in the US.

Near the end of their career it wasn't that hard to chart an album in the US if you still had a decent-sized core audience and good distribution.

For those keeping score at home, they're saying that both dates at MetLife Stadium are already sold out.

I've seen a few irl friends post that they got tix in Canada or USA and are having a holiday there since they couldn't get tickets for Murrayfield.

Toshiro, yeah that's what seems to be happening, right? It's a vacation with a concert. Like a World Cup match being played in a big city, there's plenty of regional residents who'll show up, but there's also just a ton of people who will fly in.

Tbf, one is a guy who regularly goes with his wife to the US or Canada or within Europe to see gigs. Why not though. Their kids are grown up now.
Him and another of my mates are Smiths/Morrissey fans so have travelled to see Morrissey . They have done it so many times over the decades they know which dates he will inevitably pull out of. I hope for him and his Wife's sake Oasis don't do a Jane's Addiction.

A holiday and a concert sounds like fun. And cheaper than ticketmasters dynamic pricing for UK tix.

So the MetLife sales actually sold out their remaining tickets less than an hour after the public sale began. Looking at the schedule, they could very well add at least two more shows if they wished, so don't be surprised if they announce at least a third additional MetLife show. Crazy, never would've predicted demand to be this high. Noel and Liam's recent shows were at theaters and based on prices and sales there, I would never have believed that would suggest a highly profitable stadium residency.

Goes to show how something that sounds pretty much exactly the same can be very different indeed.

It's amazing what a difference a 'brand' makes.

‘Absolutely mindblowing!’ Shed Seven score their second No 1 album of the year

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xps it's a good thing your friends aren't big Mayo Thompson fans.

I'm guessing 'oh alright then I'll get Jon Squire to write me some fookin' songs' was the ruse to make Noel jealous that finally worked.

dud btw

Both dates at the Rose Bowl are sold out. Congratulations Oasis.

https://oasisinet.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/US_SoldOut_a4-1086x1536.jpeg

Wearing my Oasis shirt today.

they look so happy to be back

No idea what they sound like but Cage The Elephant are certainly no strangers to Horrible Band Name threads 'round these parts.

Baffling choice for opener tbh. Piss poor one too.

can't risk being outclassed by the support

a good choice then, nobody will talk about them when they're in the room.

The main photo for the Oasis tour announcements is so good (the b&w version).

I saw Cage The Elephant before, they are very loved and will admit that their front man puts on a show, unlike Liam. They must be big on stations like KROQ as they seemed to be the headliner with almost everyone singing every word. They were on a double bill with Beck and Spoon opening. Missed Spoon so it ruined my night.

I'm no Oasis fan. But Liam puts on a show. The only time I ever saw them he asked all of the audience out for a fight.

For someone who just stands there he was very charismatic when I saw them mid 90s. Not as charismatic as Ian Brown though.

I never used the word charisma. He's a dour and aggressive fucker. But it seems at least half of that is an act, if only as a shield.

Saw two commenters reminisce on an IG post about Oasis's first tour in the U.S. supporting Definitely Maybe. Can't find it anymore, but I texted it to a friend and the exchange was:

Fan #1: I saw them at the Stone Pony on this tour.

Fan #2: Me too!

Fan #1: Do you remember when someone launched a pint of beer at Noel during "Columbia" and Liam went ape shit? He was yelling during the show how they shouldn't have come to America and calling the crowd "fucking Yankees" lol

Fan #2: Kinda, my memory is a bit foggy but I do remember Liam sitting down and refusing to sing. I also called Noel "Ian" by accident (I was right up front) and he scowled at me.

Ah yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOTDhtQUdYM

Ned posting in an oasis thread this is not what I was expecting

Every time I see a recent SNL clip I think about how many people in the UK bemoan our lack of an equivalent, and wonder if they've actually seen it.

Ned posting in an oasis thread this is not what I was expecting

I honestly can't tell how sarcastic this comment is meant to be!

A friend has suggested the sketch is implied reverse revenge for things like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_RVsRDTg04

_Ned posting in an oasis thread this is not what I was expecting_


I honestly can't tell how sarcastic this comment is meant to be!

wow those accents are uncannily spot on!

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maybe

The color one has Happy Mondays Bummed cover energy.

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