steve albini curating atp 2002

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not that i have ever been or will i ever go but i was wondering if all tomorrow's parties organizers go out of their way to pick the most humourless, dullest 'professional' musicians out there to choose bands? first tortoise and then sonic youth for the american get together and now steve albini. he has some inspired choices silkworm(snooze), low(snooze), plush(they were actually pretty good when i saw them), shipping news(snooze). my friend melanie is pretty upset that she would need to sit through sonic youth's menagerie or tiresome old farts to see stereolab in LA so she has decided to pass.

― keith, Saturday, 29 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tell your friend Melanie to try for Stereolab's Costa Mesa show on October 19 or either of the LA dates in November. All is not lost, see. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah Steve Albini is a bore, so who plays at the ATP-style fest YOU (= anyone other than Steve Albini) curate? Within reason.

(Sorry if this mutates the thread absurdly quickly, or was done a few weeks ago.)

― lamacq live, Saturday, 29 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And I don't mean just any old fantasy line-up - bands who would fit with the ATP aesthetic, but also aren't D.U.L.L. Could ATP ever be fun with it's chosen values? Does it have values? Who else should curate? Etc!

― joel, Saturday, 29 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Shipping news ain't so bad. After you see their live show you understand what all thier records strive for but rarely accomplish.

― turner, Saturday, 29 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"menagerie of tiresome old farts" = Boredoms, Dead C, Derek Bailey, Television, Tony Conrad, Cecil Taylor, Luc Ferrari, Mats Gustafsson, Fennesz, Cannibal Ox = best fest line-up evah. You are mad to miss it.

― Andrew L, Sunday, 30 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

is that the sy or albini one??

― jess, Sunday, 30 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Albini doesn't have a sense of humor? I'll admit his picks are rather dull. Then again, so are mine.

Bark Psychosis
Jon Brennan
Thomas Brinkmann
Carl Craig
Dabrye
Dettinger
Anja Garbarek
Luke Haines
Ides of Space
Life Without Buildings
Mercury Rev
Piano Magic
Rhythm and Sound
Scrawl
Spacek
Jenny Toomey

― Andy, Sunday, 30 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ATP aesthetic seems to be to get as many glum, miserable, introspective acts as possible which is why I've no interest in going to it. Ok in moderation, but I need a bit of light and shade hence;

Arab Strap (yeah I know archetypal ATP act) Jeff Beck with Squarepusher Bjork Bonnie Prince Billy Johnny Cash Julian Cope Bill Drummond (preferably backed by a pipe band) Eels Herbie Hancock Whitney Houston Human League Icarus Line Incredible String Band Lali Puna Jackie Leven Rip off artist Roots Manuva Ed Rush and Optical Solex Mr Scruff Salako Donna Summer Stanton Warriors Simon Fisher Turner Andrew WK

― Billy Dods, Sunday, 30 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A problem with the whole curatorship thing at ATP is the way they keep picking curators with very narrow tastes in music, with the result that you get loads of bands who all sound the same as each other. That's why the Bowlie Weekender (ATP minus one) was the best of them all, as their curators had far wider musical tastes than any of the worthy dullards they've had since. It probably also explains why ATP UCLA has such a good line-up - say what you like about Sonic Youth but they don't just like music that sounds like Sonic Youth.

That said, the ATP weekend is one of the highlights of the year, and you would be a fool not to go.

I'm not going to play the fantasy ATP line-up game, because half the fun of the thing is discovering the complete brilliance of some band you've never heard of.

― The Dirty Vicar, Sunday, 30 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

STAGE ANGULAR:

The Ex
Thinking Fellers Union Local 282
Shellac
Trumans Water
Sun City Girls
Climax Golden Twins
Last Of The Juanitas
Oxes
Prolapse
Ex Models

STAGE SPLIFF:

Fu Manchu
Nebula (let's just say the Fu and the Neb settled their differences..)
Kinski
Ectogram
Melvins
Bardo Pond
Gong
Th Faith Healers (reunion)

STAGE FLOAT:

Pinback
Bugskull
Hochenkeit
Land Of The Loops
Mike Watt and the Black Gang
The For Carnation
Sientific American

STAGE SEGMENTATION FAULT (CORE DUMP) OUTPUT :>>> ERROR:

Meat Beat Manifesto
Si Begg/Buckfunk 3000
Richard Devine
Lexaunculpt
Phoenecia
Autechre
Rennie Pilgrem vs. Simply Jeff
Uberzone
Negativland
Mouse On Mars
Depth Charge
Chicken Lips/Sir Drew
Phthalocyanine
Kid 606

― Brian MacDonald, Sunday, 30 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

andrew l's lineup was the tortoise curation. the one i desperatly wanted to go to. the one i vowed iwouldnt miss under any circumstances. the one was in russia for..............fuck

from this thread, people want to replace the 'boring' staid atp type bands, with.....other boring staid atp type bands (the for carnation?????????) or, even better a whole host of even more boring electronica snooze fests (lexauncuplt? phonecia? si fukking begg????)

and the king of it all, singling out stereolab as the most interesting thing there!!!!!

the whole world has gone crazy.

i think atp is (or sounds like at least, i've never made it thru cancellation/soldoutness/not being in the country etc) pretty much the best middle size festival around, although the bloke who runs it seems to be a bit of a dick.

― ambrose, Sunday, 30 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ambrose/Jess - that's actually the Sonic Youth line-up, although it shares some of the same acts as the Tortoise one, which I did go to and was grate (Bailey, Prefuse 73, Mike Ladd, Tortoise, Autechre, Fred Anderson, Boards of Canada, Sea and Cake - so much for the curators choosing a narrow range of music!)

― Andrew L, Sunday, 30 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Billy, Stanton Warriors=Classic, so unbelievably classic. Best live dance act around in my humble opinion. Something good had to come out of the garage scene, and breakbeat/garage having babies is it.

― Ronan, Sunday, 30 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i saw the stanton warriors in moscow and they were kinda boring....they just seemed to either play a) some good garage tunes or b) play all of their remixes of everyone in the world, while one of them stood there tapping out a bassline on a little keyboard. mind you they looked even more bored when fatboy slim came on and they had to just sit there while thousands of screaming scutty russian kids worshipped their idol 'fet-boi! fet-boi!'......

guy to us afterwards: 'you actually spoke to nor-man!?!??!?!'

stanton warriors: cant help, kinda like zinc, that their stuff is ok, but just lacks something in the beat production, that the garage producers have. i mean 138 trek is pretty good, but the zed bias mix is loads better fr some reason. stanton warriors do make some nice bass sounds though....

― ambrose, Sunday, 30 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

In any case, I just heard that ATP LA has been moved to March 2002 -- pretty much because of the subsequent unease of the WTC tragedy.

― Brian MacDonald, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, all moaning aside ATP is great.

Barry Hogan, the guy who runs it, is heroically grumpy. He subbed to the yahoogroup ATP-list earlier this year, mainly to hurl abuse at anyone who claimed not to like any of the bands who were playing. He also hurled abuse at anypone who asked for bands to be booked that they'd enjoyed seeing at previous ATPs. I think his thing is he loves the festival so much that he gets really uptight if anyone criticises any aspect of it.

― DV, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

that sounds like a pretty convincing description of a fucking dickhead to me. i saw something on the atp site before the last one, and it was pathetic 'fuck off i hate you all you all smell' playground shit.

i dont think its heroic. just tragic. i mean, how old is this guy?

― ambrose, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Barry is very young in fact, at least for a promoter. Pity the rumour about the Stooges playing ATP never came to pass, but everyone knows the best way to enjoy it is to get wrecked for a weekend and if you catch any bands, that's a bonus.

― Snotty Moore, Wednesday, 10 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...

hi, i just stumbled onto this site. i don't know how old it is. but i rolled my eyes and now feel i have to put in my two cents worth of pretention. as a fan of low and shipping news and shellac. i was excited to hear it. i've seen stereolab and find THEM to be tiresome and boring. maybe i like "boring" music. but i have never been let down by a shellac performance, humourless? wow. i'm scratching my head on that one. dull is more a personal preference, i'll let that comment slide.

― SarahY., Sunday, 18 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i'm just peeved that the LA atp has so much a better line up than the UK camber sands one does for 2002.

― bob snoom, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

six months pass...

Okay, you apes, WIRE, THE FALL, MISSION OF BURMA, and CHEAP TRICK all played at ATP UK. If that's not enough for you, melt your fucking records down and kill yourself now.

― Dmitri Schostakovitch, Saturday, 25 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Wire were useless at ATP tho' - as were the Shipping News and Rachel's. Post-rock noodling w/ classical pretensions - hurrah!

― Andrew L, Sunday, 26 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

As last year, the best part of ATP was the bloke from Rough Trade who DJ'd every night in the Queen Vic.

Live band wise I enjoyed Low, Dianogah and The Fall. Shellac were on at the wrong time ever day so I missed them, but everyone who saw them ,rated it - even those who are not fans of his work normally.

I still wanted to go the following week, but I was still recovering the following weekend (almost). I really don't know why anyone wouldn't like to go.

― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 26 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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