Can we rehabilitate The Adverts?

It's really annoying that the whole UK punk scene has been reduced to the Pistols and the Clash. Who I like, but you can only hear those two albums so many times, yknow?

Do I have a point? Don't think so. Oh well

wow, is this really the only Adverts thread?

Anyone heard this new bootleg LP with "raw" versions of the 2nd LP songs? Saw it in a store the other day and was curious.

Kind of aghast at the title - rehabilitate? "Crossing The Red Sea" is an absolute classic, and they had a terrific run of hit singles.

crossing the red sea pretty much stands up to any fucking orig era UK punk album ever made IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKG2rG-s29M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8SqkYzzGI0&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFkSGbd3okA&feature=related

Rehabilitate that!

haha hell yeah!

100% old school punk, served with a sneer! I haven't heard those raw mixes, but I really want to now.

? "Crossing The Red Sea" is an absolute classic, and they had a terrific run of hit singles.

crossing the red sea pretty much stands up to any fucking orig era UK punk album ever made IMO.

damn right!

why the casual dislike of Eater on this thread, for that matter?

Eater have long been music crit go-to band for disparaging 2nd div UK punk. See also the Lurkers.

Not just critics

They'd like to buy the O Level single
or 'Read about Seymour'
But they're not pressed in red
So they buy The Lurkers instead

Pretty sure whichever Lurkers single the Part Time Punks were buying was better than the O Level. Swell Maps, though, that's a different story.

There is a tendency to dismiss any punk-era band that went in for the whole chains, rips and safety pins look.

I'm not about to defend every dodgy punk 7" issued in the late 70's, but you miss out on a lot of great stuff that way.

The O Level single is the best!

Anyway, TV Smith is opening up for Jay Reatard in NYC shortly.

In my defence for the sloppy thread title and saying 'rehabilitate' (jeez 8 years ago?) this was written at the time of "rediscovery of post punk". I was suggesting that the Adverts should have had more kudos in that "narrative" of the 'rip it up' history re-write.

But I intended no offence - otm for calling me on it and note again, I started it by saying I love the Adverts, though then again I like The Drones, the Lurkers et al (though Eater were pish).

Hey now Outside View's a pretty good song :)

Colonel Save-A-Punk

xpost: Sandy - fair enough, makes sense in that context. I'm getting kind of defensive about yer actual punk rock.

I was recently at an event where the speaker - I'm being vague because he may well be reading - rather pompously announced "I actually found the post-punk bands much more interesting". Felt like just getting up and leaving. It struck me just what a crushing consensus that has become, and in a relatively short space of time. No doubt about it, Reynolds has documented and drawn attention to a lot of worthwhile music, but it was a history re-write, and some good stuff got written off.

Needless to say, I find the bands that came before post-punk more interesting.

Just saw Tv Smith open for Jay Reatard tonight in DC. I found his solo Billy Braggish songs about how "they" don't care about the poor predictably simplistic lyrically and not exciting enough song arrangement wise to make up for that. He delivered them with passion there was just not enough there. Later he did a mini-Adverts set backed by Jay Reatard and his band--"Gary Gilmore's Eyes, Bored Teenagers," and 2 or 3 others. They rocked and were great.

wow, "bored teenagers" with jay reatard backing sounds pretty damn cool

It was. Plus the gig was in the Black Cat Club smaller backroom that holds only around 100 people or so, and that added to the atmosphere.

Am I all alone in thinking that Cast of Thousands is truly a magnificently flawed album?
It sounds like a street fight between Meat Loaf and a gang of demented glam punks, there's Kid Strange from the Doctors of Madness playing the synthesizer in the title track and closer I Will Walk You Home is one of the creepiest songs ever recorded.
Far from perfect but definitely unique.

You're not alone. The versions on the BBC sessions disc reveal how it was supposed to sound, and the songs are really strong. I thought there was a reissue that improved the sound somewhat? The Absolute Edition or something?

I must say I quite like the bombast of the actual album, but it is interesting to compare the studio versions with the much more stripped down BBC versions.

I own a remastered cd that contain all the b-sides, but its not the 2cd deluxe version released last year.

urls that brighten your day: http://louderthanwar.com/top-ten-black-metal-bands-by-gaye-advert/

And the documentary is still on BBC iplayer, folks.