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My Boxed Valentine
by Bernardo Rondeau | 02.06.2004

More info has leaked regarding the long-awaited anthology from dreamscape drone legends My Bloody Valentine. Fansite To Here Knows Web has posted what appears to be a thorough accounting for the contents of the as-yet-untitled (though seemingly forthcoming) box set. Expected to be limited to only a few thousand copies, the package will be made up of two separate boxes and a DVD spanning the band's entire career. There's no telling at the moment whether each box will be sold separately or as a single collection, or even what label will release it. Secret info as follows:

Box 1:
THIS IS YOUR BLOODY VALENTINE LP (1985)
GEEK EP (1985)
THE NEW RECORD EP (1986)
SUNNY SUNDAE SMILE EP (1987)
STRAWBERRY WINE EP (1987)
ECSTASY EP (1987)
LIVE 1984-87 (new double-CD)

Box 2:
YOU MADE ME REALISE EP (1988)
FEED ME WITH YOUR KISS EP (1988)
ISN'T ANYTHING LP (1988)
GLIDE EP (1990)
TREMOLO EP (1990)
LOVELESS LP (1991)
LIVE 1987-92 (new quadruple-CD)

While Box 1--a repackaging of previously released, though hard-to-find, music from the group's salad days as a Cramps-ish, quasi-Goth combo to their experimentations with jangly paisley pop--will be unembellished by bonus materials save for the live album, Box 2 easily promises to be the anxiously sought prize for many an MBV fan. The second set feature outtakes and "alternate versions" for all four epochal EPS and two albums issued by the band from 1987 to their quiet disappearance in '92. Of particular interest will be five tracks that were originally slated to appear on 1988's Glide EP (thus making it a full-length and what fledgling rock historians will surely begin to call "the lost album". Not only have these buried songs been unearthed, they have apparently been re-recorded by Shields with former bandmates Bilinda Butcher and Colm O'Ciosoig. However, there doesn't look like there will be any post-Loveless or new material included from the band's decade-long lull/breakup. Though we may wonder what happened in that 10-year span of public silence, it may be best to end this collection with a triumphant final chapter--the unrivalled masterpiece Loveless--than a patchy postscript.

In addition, both live albums are digitally remastered from original soundboard tapes and the DVD will be comprised of all of the band's music videos, three separate live shows spliced together as one, various television interviews and personal "camcorder footage." Considering that there isn't even any official info on the box set, one can expect the speculated release date of late 2005/early 2006 to be optimistic at best. Regardless, after the palatable morsels he dished out for the Lost In Translation soundtrack, it seems Shields is ready to engorge us with a patiently awaited feast. Bring your own acids (regular and ant-).

― Stupid (Stupid), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Gee, sucks. No way I'd purchase THAT.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

(Certainly not to play it nearly constantly after I got it especially the live discs in the second box oh no no no no.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Hah, yeah, totally. I mean... the albums they released were NOT the best albums anyone has ever recorded in the history of anything ever, so I don't know what I'd want with a "lost" My Bloody Valentine album. BORING.

― Stupid (Stupid), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course, a little more attribution would be nice and all. Who is the reporter and where did this info come from, if not PipeDreamWorld?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

the smugness hangs heavy like a polluted cloud

― omg, Friday, 6 February 2004 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)

NOOO idea, I got this from someone on another message board. It might be bullshit, but it might not, so... there you go.

On a completely unrelated note, Wings Of Joy the Cranes album arrived in the post this morning and YOUR TASTE IN MUSIC OWNS THE FUCKING WORLD NED.

― Stupid (Stupid), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not April yet, it is cruel to torment Ned so.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

So please, carry on.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

yes april is the cruellest month for ned

― omg, Friday, 6 February 2004 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

that appeared on mybloodyvalentine.net, it was preceded by this:

According to a mail I got recently (Jan 12, 200) from a very reliable source, there is indeed a box set coming. (Ed: I believe this one) In fact there are 2 box sets coming out, plus a DVD! Sadly they probably won't be released until late 2005 or early 2006. The Anthology will be a Island/Sire release. Contary to popular belief, Kevin's contract to Island is still valid. So apparently the news of the box set being scrapped were false.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

A couple of things:
1) The Glider EP (actually 1990) is probably the best thing they did,
better than either of the albums, so if there's a whole lost album of
that stuff out there I'll kill for it.
2) I saw them live three times 91/92 and each time they played a
version of You Made Me Realise with about ten minutes (I'm not
exaggerating ) of pure insane noise. Again, I'd quite fancy hearing
that.

― jamiefake, Friday, 6 February 2004 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I sense mockery in some above posts! *cries*

2) I saw them live three times 91/92 and each time they played a
version of You Made Me Realise with about ten minutes (I'm not
exaggerating ) of pure insane noise. Again, I'd quite fancy hearing
that.

I was lucky enough to be at what proved to be The Final Ever Show in LA. At that point -- I timed it -- it was 35 minutes long.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

kevin has repeatedly stated his utter lack of desire to reissue anything pre-Creation so i think the box tracklisting is bollocks.

― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)

but then Buckingham Nicks might be reissued soon so anything's possible

― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Even statues coming to life and stuff?

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

they have eerie powers

― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually I wonder if this will sort of lower MBV's critical reputation, insofar as it will make the early stuff a more official component of thier catalog and basically dilute the bit that everyone likes.

Although possibly not, seeing as (a) this does seem like the best possible time to get that early stuff circulating more widely, what with everyone a bit more interested than usual in that particular sound; plus (b) I still really do think that some of the Dave Conway material -- the New Record By and S.S.S. stuff -- is quite terrific. Maybe not mindblowingly "serious" -- more just like a campy happy version of the JaMC -- but terrific nonetheless.

The live material may actually thankfully put nails in the coffin of the idea that Loveless &c were big studio efforts.

― nabiscothingy, Friday, 6 February 2004 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

agreed about the live stuff. I actually have a self recorded cassette from an SF show and it is just as mind blowing as the studio stuff. I liked how Colm would watch these lights to keep tempo with some of the samples (but only on a couple songs).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:51 (twenty-two years ago)

and Ned, I think I've previously noted that I was also at that last ever show!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)

SWEETNESS

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 6 February 2004 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

35 minutes? What did everyone do? In London people kind of
jumped around for a couple of minutes then just stared at
each other grinning until the tune eventually kicked in again.

― jamiefake, Friday, 6 February 2004 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

So what would be on the DVD?

― ben welsh (benwelsh), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Live stuff, but hopefully also the video for "Soon" which is one of my favorite things ever. The earlier video for "You Made Me Realise" is great too. It reminded me of Galaxie 500's "Tugboat" video.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

35 minutes? What did everyone do? In London people kind of
jumped around for a couple of minutes then just stared at
each other grinning until the tune eventually kicked in again.

Oh, it was fantastic. Some people staggered away, others just sorta swayed, whole bunch up in front getting into it...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

When I saw them do it in NYC, there was some crowdsurfing, some dancing, some people flipping them the bird, but eventually the band beat everyone into slack-jawed submission.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 8 February 2004 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)

This seems kinda cool, although I already have pretty much all of it (vids included) on cd/vinyl/vid anyway so I'm not entirely sure wether to shell out. If it ever appears. Hmm.

― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 8 February 2004 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually I wonder if this will sort of lower MBV's critical reputation....

One can but hope

― Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 8 February 2004 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

heh heh

― mentalist (mentalist), Sunday, 8 February 2004 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Late '05/Early '06? OPTIMISTIC AT BEST?????

I would really rather not have heard this news at all. Two years is such a long time.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Sunday, 8 February 2004 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I spoke to someone (honest)involved in loveless sessions and he says kevin laid all the songs to tape at the start using just one guitar and vocal then fleshed it out later - ie it was less studio trickery than you might think.

i would *love* to hear 'glider' completed and released as the lp it was always meant to be - essential purchase.

― nope, Sunday, 8 February 2004 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

but not if i have to buy all of the boxes! too much money.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Sunday, 8 February 2004 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

it does seem kinda extravagant for a box with about 18 potential buyers.

― keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 8 February 2004 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

But as one of those buyers, I thank them.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 February 2004 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

18 potential buyers??? Judging by the percentage of ILM MBV fans, I guess it would have some more demand... ;)

― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Sunday, 8 February 2004 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Sign me up for one too.

― Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 8 February 2004 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

people people please don't get too excited about this, the chances of it actually happening are about as likely as scott walker duetting with kraftwerk on a cover of "all the things she said"

― the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 8 February 2004 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

*doodlydoodlydoodly*

ITEM! Some legendary German group to sing with some balding American dude on some Russian duo's song.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 February 2004 22:51 (twenty-two years ago)

O.O;;;

*weeps*

the end of the world is at hand! it's official!

― janni (janni), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Anybody else notice how pitchfork broke month old news this morning. lame.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

grrr!!! i wish people would stop reporting this as news!! wishful thinking doesn't make it so!!!

― the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Uncut has a feature on MBV this month, and says box set out in like May 2004.

― Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 09:43 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm not even a big fan, but i'm excited about this.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 09:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm excited for all those people, unlike me, that are excited.

― mentalist (mentalist), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

So if all the people that are not excited, are excited...

That means everybody is excited.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~homespun/davey.jpg

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Out of curiosity, who here will buy the boxsets, and will you buy both?

I'll say yes to both (and apologise to my wallet).

― Jedmond, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

''LIVE 1987-92 (new quadruple-CD)''

I would buy one boxset just to hear this. All of my fave psych bands have fucking great live CDs and we really need one from them.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Out of curiosity, who here will buy the boxsets, and will you buy both?

My answer is implicit.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Skipping 180 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

kit is right. it's the indie equivalent of the spider cactus. there should be a snopes page on it.

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

xpost, That *is* in fact new info and is very different from last years news. The mybloodyvalentine.net news page has the date mislabeled, but the news is from May 2005.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

different in what way? i recall reading that exact wording above last year.

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

Yep. I'm afraid I read all that before as well.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

In fact, check the very first post on this thread! (Contents of the boxes, anyway)

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 30 June 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

i have some MBV boot from LA and in the gap before they play "Soon" there is some weirdo making farmyard animal noises.

THAT'S entertainment.

― nicholas de jong (nicholas de jong), Thursday, 30 June 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

you'd imagine that putting together a box of that size would take quite a while. I'd like to think this means they're taking their time so it's done right! I WANT TO BELIEVE!

― there are twelve people in the world the rest are haitch (haitch), Thursday, 30 June 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)

i have some MBV boot from LA and in the gap before they play "Soon" there is some weirdo making farmyard animal noises.

What can I say, I was overwhelmed with passion.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 June 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

it's brought me countless seconds of amusement of the years.

― nicholas de jong (nicholas de jong), Thursday, 30 June 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

Ned's animal passion has brought you amusement?

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 30 June 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

The info is of course similar (it's talking about the same release!), but there are a bunch of new details. This was posted on or about May 10th of this year on the same site where the original information was posted from last year.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

I saw this on snopes.com

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

someone hit archive.org, it's firewalled at my work

― kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 1 July 2005 01:02 (twenty years ago)

Check out the forum at mybloodyvalentine.net.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 1 July 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)

It's possible that the forum is dated incorrectly and I'm happy to be wrong, but frankly I'm desperate.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 1 July 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

spencer i'd love this to be true as much as anyone but i strongly suspect "Source: a very reliable source" is some fuckwit having a lend of us all.

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 1 July 2005 02:25 (twenty years ago)

Hey, I object to that description. Er, wait. *flees*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 July 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

seriously, that wording you quoted is exactly the one that was up last year

― kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 1 July 2005 03:02 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

well i'll tell u what has peaked (piqued?) my interest in this.
i watched a 10 minute clip of mbv vids and interviews from a documentary called 'the story of creation' off souls££k and *boy* am i bang back into mbv again. there's a clip of RAPIDO tv show also on slsk but i havent got that yet.

fckn ace weren't they?

how come the lady in the band isn't rated more? for her gorgeosness and dancing in the SOON vid if nothing else?

― piscesboy, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

colm rode by me on his bike last week. I guess I could have stopped him and demanded to know where this box set is at, as if he knows or cares...

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

x-post "the lady"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

"Okay Bilinda, Deborah, who wants to be the lady today?"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Kyle, you really should have!

Also, Colm and Kevin have played together on the new record by Le Volume Courbe (haven't heard it yet).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

x-post "the lady"

The gorgeos lady, Ned. You know, that one.

― Venga (Venga), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

le volume courbe actually finished an album? i hope a proper label puts it out this time

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

From mybloodyvalentine.net:

"From this morning's Channel 4 Ceefax music pages:

"My Bloody Valentine guitarist Kevin Shields and drummer Colm O'Ciosoig play together for the first time since 1991's Loveless album on the debut LP by Le Volume Courbe, aka French singer Charlotte Marioneau. Her eponymous album, out on September 26, also features Hope Sandoval."

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

is this out?

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

there was all this nonsense about Hope & Kevin playing on the LVC Poptones single but my understanding was that it was untrue?

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:30 (twenty years ago)

out on September 26

― kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)

do you expect me to read every word?

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 02:27 (twenty years ago)

i was sorta hoping you were asking about the box set

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 02:29 (twenty years ago)

seven months pass...

did we dream this?

― piscesboy, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

When it comes to MBV, you're dreaming until you're holding it in your hand... maybe when you wake, you're still in a dream...

― Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, I got my copy. It's great. Kevin came to my house and dropped it off the other day.

― wmlynch (wlynch), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

you're safe in your sleep (from MBV and their empty promises)

― hank (hank s), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

i just saw colm at the grocery store again. i was going to ask him about it but didn't have the nerve. he was buying some wine.

― akm, Friday, 8 June 2007 03:31 (eighteen years ago)

Haha I read that as "I was going to ask him out but I didnt have the nerve" ! =)

― Trayce, Friday, 8 June 2007 03:46 (eighteen years ago)

he has hope sandoval at home, so I don't think he'd want me anyway

― akm, Friday, 8 June 2007 03:58 (eighteen years ago)

DRINK some (strawberry?) wine (a bit) next time you hit the grocery, then just appear next to him and casually demand. Works for me.

― Sum Fitch, Friday, 8 June 2007 05:50 (eighteen years ago)

hope sandoval, geez she gets around, I thought she was dating William Reid.

― Trayce, Friday, 8 June 2007 08:43 (eighteen years ago)

maybe 8 years ago or more

― electricsound, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:29 (eighteen years ago)

13 years ago, more like.

― baaderonixx, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:35 (eighteen years ago)

"or more"

― electricsound, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:41 (eighteen years ago)

What happened to her anyway? I remember seeing Mazzy Star around 2000, they only played new songs, but nothing ever came out.

― baaderonixx, Friday, 8 June 2007 09:45 (eighteen years ago)

Please stop teasing me with this thread!! Gah!!

― leavethecapital, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)

There was mention of the record label back catalogue person working on MBV material in Rercord Collector last/this month (the one with The WHO on the cover). It was in an article about the reissue market. No details, but sounded pretty legit.

― PJ Miller, Friday, 8 June 2007 12:26 (eighteen years ago)

MBV box set like MBV nother album. yeah, in my dreams.

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 8 June 2007 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

miracles do happen people

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51W3jWOW-tL._SS500_.jpg

― Edward III, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

What happened to her anyway? I remember seeing Mazzy Star around 2000, they only played new songs, but nothing ever came out.

Her solo album came out the following year and since then nothing except the occasional guest vocals. Last I heard, she sings on one track on the new Massive Attack album.

― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 June 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

i get the feeling she's in semi-retirement, it's not like she needs to work with fade into you still being used in every movie soundtrack every; there might be a bit of a perfectionist streak as well. I did see her after the solo album came out (live) and it was an excellent show but they spent so much time getting the sound set up before they played that the wait was ridiculous (something like an hour and a half).

― akm, Friday, 8 June 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

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