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OK ILM. What's the deal with this?
Has anyone heard or seen this yet?

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

This is really weird.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Not really.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:03 (twenty-two years ago)

My knee-jerk reaction is that it's a hoax -- it's just too too juicy, too many hot button issues (HIP-HOP! AL-QAEDA!) rolled up into one spicy tamale. Plus, um, isn't much of the hardline Islamist world pretty much anti-music in all manifestations? (I suspect Rockist will come in on this thread at some point and prove me wrong.)

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)

If it's real, it's going to be awfully funny watching the American government try to track down every person that downloads it off of Kazaa.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, it does sound like a hoax, but if it isn't. . . it's weird (despite what Ned sez). But people not getting irony is pretty normal, so eh.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I think of it this way -- in a world of extremist music, this is no more or less surprising than some other things we've gotten random rotten googlers about.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Aha! I've always suspected that rappers were terrorists. It makes perfect sense.

― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm. I don't know anything about this. I see that Bush is saying Al Qaeda is behind civil war in Iraq. They may have a hand it in certainly, but I think all it took was the overthrow of Saddam's regime.

It's kind of like Reagan saying: "The Soviet Union is behind all the unrest in the Third World." (That's almost verbatim.)

― Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:17 (twenty-two years ago)

"rap lingo for terror"

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm. I don't know anything about this.

I was more thinking "Rockist Scientist will likely tell me hardline Islamist hip-hop isn't really that weird," rather "Rockist Scientist will likely know something about this particular track." (Sorry, my words were a little too ambiguous there.)

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Not so much ambiguous as "shadowy." Shadowy terrorist rap groups.

― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it is kind of weird, but I don't fully understand the various schools of thought on music. I think I've seen anti-music clerics make exceptions for music used in battle, but I don't remember the details.

― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:35 (twenty-two years ago)

But I would think that using a form of music which is intimitely tied up with both the United States and capitalism is pretty strange. It's sorta like having a barmitzvah at a hot dog stand or having your church bake sale at a strip club, ya know.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Hip-hop transcends all, man.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, but the most canonial hiphop album (in a rockist's world anyway) contains a picture of people standing on a flag and promotes some sort of Islam (albeit a very unorthodox one).

― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Farakhan would last about 5 seconds in an Osama Bin Laden Islamic World Empire.

― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Islamic terrorist rap? If Bill O'Reilly rubs his palms together any faster he'll start a fire.

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)

The song is being broadcast on the Internet in an attempt to lure music-loving youth into the terror network

I'm so there!

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Another "What would Bryn Jones have made of all this?" moment

Really, though -- bad idea on the part of radical Islam...once they get hooked on this rap they'll wanna go for the good stuff, & once you've heard Jay-Z suicide bombing is out of the question.

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 05:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Like Hip Hop needed any more bad press. Sheesh.

Wake me when there's an Islamist Post-Punk band.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

If it's real, it's going to be awfully funny watching the American government try to track down every person that downloads it off of Kazaa.

Isn't it a GOOD thing for the public to be made aware of al-Qaeda's propaganda tactics?

(blah blah yeah but the Bush administration doesn't make logical decisions blah blah)

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Is this the most press UK Hip-Hop has ever got!?

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I dunno, Feeder's remix of "You Don't See The Signs" has to come pretty close.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

who the fuck is Feeder?

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Rubbish Welsh powerpop act with dead drummer. Their remix of Mark B and Blade's "Ya Don't See Da Sinez", or however it was spelt, remains the highest charting single of the UK hip hop renaissane. For "highest", read "only".

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Plus, um, isn't much of the hardline Islamist world pretty much anti-music in all manifestations?

Music is acceptable when used to stir people to battle & the like. Other times, too, but that's the only relevant one. Amnon Shiloah wrote some books about this stuff.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 23:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Call me "old school," but I'd prefer a longform collection of the 20-second "terrorist training camp" chants I've become so accustomed to hearing played by DJ Dan Rather. Unison arabic singing by a bunch of charged-up wolves -- good stuff!

Note to al-Qaida: I'd also prefer that to another attack, thanks.

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)

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