The Shins' Oh, Inverted World: C/D?

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My friend Bob plays "Oh, Inverted World" over and over again at work, along with a Creation comp and The Kinks. So what do y'all think of the Shins? Are they 'the next Beach Boys?' or just a bunch of Albuquerque (It has a music scene-who knew?) bollocks?

turner, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

(a) The southwestern music scene has a long and distinguished history, damnit! Okay, maybe not "distinguished," but there are always a lot of perfectly great bands out there that people just aren't hearing about. More interestingly, there really does seem to be a southwestern-band "sound," and I really hope that within my lifetime it'll become as much of a broad-but-understandable genre as the northwestern sound.

(b) I really, really enjoy this record, and I've found it interesting that it's becoming the poppy indie record of choice for people I know who could care less about poppy indie. (From the cliche file: "Normally I hate this kind of stuff, but...") It's well-done, for the most part. Most notable, I think, is that it's the most stylistically diverse poppy-indie-record I've heard in several years, which I think is a good sign -- probably I'm getting nostalgic for the era when a pop band making a record meant playing different kinds of songs instead of shooting for the straight-through cohesive variations-on-a-theme feel.

Nitsuh, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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Such a painful listen, I can't stand it. Flimsy melodies, flimsier arrangements, thin vocals, and they sing about nothing! It's one of those so inoffensive as to be offensive albums. It makes me want to break stuff.

Melissa W, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, I really like this, too. It's the kind of record I would have thought I'd have loved x number of years ago and not cared about now but I keep going back to it and finding new reasons to be pleased for doing so. They've been around under different guises for about 10 years now, so I can't understand why they've finally hit upon something here, but they have and it's lovely. A little bit power pop, a little bit indie pop, but catchy and charming all the way around.

scott p., Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

a) The southwestern music scene has a long and distinguished history, damnit! Okay, maybe not "distinguished," but there are always a lot of perfectly great bands out there that people just aren't hearing about.

Really, Nitsuh? The only other ABQ. band with decent national exposure I can think of is the Eyeliners...and I spent a year living in Santa Fe too...Of course, not bein old enough to get into clubs=I probably missed most of the local talent.

I would like to think that the southwest has a coherent 'sound,' but to tell the truth it's hard for me to tell where the southwest ends and the midwest picks up--In other words, quite a bit of Emo. It probably doesn't do help the Southwest's bid for originality that relatively well known Emo groups come through on the midwest circuit all the time. Given the greater critical acceptance of midwest Emo as the 'standard form' a lot of southwest bands ends up sounding derivative. Of course, on the club scene, it's probably different.

turner, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I just bought this last week after seeing the band open for Modest Mouse. It's a good record, I like it, but I was a little disapointed after hearing them perform the songs live. Without the 60s-style production choices, the songs came off live as primo new wave, reminding me some of the first Police record. But with the reverb- drenched vocals, glockenspiels & what not, they come accross on record as a bit too Elephant 6. Still, as I said, an enjoyable album. Could they be the American Clientele?

Mark, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

O, classic, classic, classic, so good! I am frightened of anyone who's not thrilled and exhilirated by "Know Your Onion!" or "New Slang." A completely ace record, which gives me that great mid-to- late-60s Kinks feel for reasons I don't fully understand, since it really doesn't sound a whole lot like the Kinks.

But I agree with Mark that they were a letdown live, tho maybe the night I saw them wasn't a fair representation--it seemed like the singer was losing his voice, and so the vocals got progressively thinner throughout the night until they were barely audible by the end of the set.

Next Beach Boys? Of course not. But 'Oh, Inverted World' will always have a fond place in my heart as *the* summer record of 2001.

Martin Swope, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually, Martin, I think you just completely disagreed with Mark.

As for defining the "southwest," I'd go with the following rule: if it has lots of corn, forget it. So my southwestern-sound region would include Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, some of western Texas, and Oklahoma. (Oklahoman bands occupy a whole lot of that sound, really -- compare the Shins record with the Starlight Mints record to see what I mean.) The record from back when the Shins were Flake Music is even more southwestern-y, I think.

Most successful southwestern-y sounding band ever: Gin Blossoms. Two notes and you can just tell these guys are from Arizona.

Nitsuh, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh dear, you're right. I just quickly read the "I was a little bit disappointed" bit, then jumped to "live," then jumped to the Police/new-wave bit, and, being sort of anti-Police/new-wave, filtered it through my prejudices. Apologies.

Martin Swope, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am frightened of anyone who's not thrilled and exhilirated by "Know Your Onion!" or "New Slang."

I haven't heard them yet. But those titles make me want to smack them around.

And Nitsuh -- the Gin Blossoms? Excuse me? May I direct you to a far more worthy band by the name of the Meat Puppets...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, no doubt about it: "Know Your Onion!" is a deeply silly title, but the song really is unspeakably great. You can download an MP3 of it here.

As for "New Slang," I find it pretty inoffensive as a title, but hey. That one is available in RealAudio here; follow the link to the Oh, Inverted World section.

Martin Swope, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It occurs to me, as I look at the artist photos on the first SubPop page linked to above, that Heather Duby is really quite cute.

Martin Swope, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Whoah, hold on, Ned -- I wasn't saying "best," I was saying "most successful!" I truly hope nobody interpreted that as my being a big fan of those guys. I was just pointing out that they're the most southwestern-y thing ever to get actual radio play.

Nitsuh, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hmmm...I'll let you live. This time. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i just moved to albuquerque. i got the shins record just before i came so as to feel at home. it's a little short and a little thin. new slang is the only song i really like. also, the handsome family just moved here. we'll be a scene soon enough!

matthew stevens, Sunday, 7 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

four weeks pass...
U are all crazy this is great stuff and if u dont like indy rock then i unerstand why u may not like it, but girl inform me, gir on the wing, and caring is creepy are great songs!!!e-mail me casue i probilly wont be bcak to this msdg bard any time in teh future...no offence

Jay Richardson, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

five years pass...

I love this record, it's in my 21st century Top 10 I think. "Girl Inform Me" is a huge classic, but almost every song is likeable here. And please, don't mention 'Garden State'.

zeus, Sunday, 26 August 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago)


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