― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 09:01 (twenty-two years ago)
1. Nas - Illmatic2. Tribe - Low End Theory3. Mos Def - Black on Both Sides4. Notorious BIG - Ready To Die5. Jeru The Damaja - The Sun Rises in the East6. Jay-Z - Black Album7. De La Soul - 3 ft. High and Rising8. Dr. Dre - The Chronic9. Outkast - Aquemini10. J-Live - All of the Above (this last one's a really hard choice)
― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 12 February 2004 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Carty (mj_c), Thursday, 12 February 2004 09:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 09:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 09:46 (twenty-two years ago)
In no particular order
Gravediggaz: The Pick, The Sickle, and the ShovelDe La Soul: 3 Feet High and RisingMos Def: Black on Both SidesPrince Paul: A Prince Among ThievesJungle Brothers: Done By The Forces of NaturePublic Enemy: Apocalypse 91... The Enemy Stikes BackOutkast: StankoniaTricky: Pre-Millennium TensionDr. Dre: The ChronicDeltron 3030: Deltron 3030
― Jedmond, Thursday, 12 February 2004 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 12 February 2004 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)
Rhymes: Content, vocab, innovation, stories, brains, jokes
1. Public Enemy- It Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back2. Nas- Illmatic3. Tupac- All Eyez On Me4. Notorious BIG- Ready to Die5. Jay-Z- the Blueprint6. Black Star- S/T7. Raekwon&Ghostface- Only Built For Cuban Linx...8. Wu-Tang Clan- Enter the Wu-Tang9. Eminem- The Eminem Show10. NWA- Straight Outta Compton
Beats&"Flow"-- feel if you didn't speak English
1. Jay-Z- The Blueprint (I'm sorry, but come on now. You know.)2. N.W.A.- Efil4zaggin. (Even the skits)3. Tribe Called Quest- Midnight Marauders4. Dr. Dre- The Chronic5. Outkast- Stankonia6. Public Enemy- Fear of a Black Planet7. Wu-Tang Clan- Enter the Wu Tang8. Snoop Doggy Dogg- Doggystyle9. Gang Starr- Hard to Earn10. Eric B & Rakim- Paid in Full
overall:
1. Jay-Z- The Blueprint (not political, but it's got every other fucking thing going for it--the best and most innovative beats since ages before, a different super-competent flow on every song, wit, beauty, humour, rhythm, soul, and goofy bonus tracks)2.Public Enemy- It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back (And it took an advance of millions to make them wack. But anyway: four singles, and not a single bad song--and the production was ten years ahead of its time. The only flaw is Chuck's failure to switch up his flow too much on this longish record-- but given the timeframe you can't blame him for that--and for both radical politics and solid storytelling in a jam no one has ever matched him--least of all in "Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos." The first and best record that rightly placed rap as the music of whoo-gonzo revolution.)3. Nas- Illmatic. (Every beat's pretty good and some are great; the song order is perfect; it plays as a 2-side record and a CD both with total satisfaction; kid-Nas's flow is nearly flawless and he singlehandedly revived the doublerhyme from Rakim and passed it to the likes of Eminem and many others, reviving a big part of the linguistic and vocab-based engenuity in rap; the storytelling is amazingly vivid and consistent throughout the album and especially in a couple songs like the awesome "One Love;" he seems totally humble and sincere throughout the whole album, which is crazy in itself for any kind of rapper; he didn't completely burn out or die in the subsequent decade; and practically every song bops your head.) 4. Wu-Tang Clan- Enter the Wu-Tang (This hardly seems fair, because obviously it has everything going for it, but remember how nuts it sounded when it came out? This was 1993-- before Tupac and Biggie were even on the radar; when big-money rap was what you heard at bar mitzvahs-- and if the kids in the inner city were having bar mitzvahs, it's what they heard too, after "911 is a Joke" 3 times in a row. Remember when you first heard "Protect Ya Neck," with "Method Man" on the B-side"? The sound was totally new, totally different-- the beginning of minimal rap-type beats with their sources anywhere you wanted--and not just in recorded music!, the beginning of the permissability of source material for rap beyond funk n soul, and the beginning of a lot of new lyric modes: the monotone storytell/extended metaphor (GZA), the junior mafia peon reminiscing and waxing nostagic on hard times while in the thick of the big-dough game (Raekwon&Ghostface), the good-time guy bound for guestspots who can't even be bothered to rhyme so tweaks the language to suit him--and so begets dozens of rappers with new ways of rhyming by tweaking words or accents, ending with Em rhyming 'oranges' for the first time in recorded history (Method Man: "I'm better/ than my competors/ I mean competitors./ Whatever./ Let's get togever.")--and just as significantly the Outsider Artist Rapper--ODB--, whose lyrics are as inexplicable as his quick popularity-- on this album first goofin' on the idea of bringing a solid flow or even being ready to rap when your verse comes up--for eight bars! Or until he rhymes "boom" with clearing his throat and makes up the word "rappenin." First drawing the humor from the other members of his otherwise serious crew and then tempering the horror of his existence with humour into one obsessingly obtuse album and one entirely incomprehensible one. Such was the crew of the 21st century, the ones who came to save rap-- a couple of pedants, a couple of loquatious potheads, a dangerous psychopath with an oddly catchy way of shouting "Brooklyn-Zuh!", a nerd and one or two wannabe gangsters with excellent memories and vivid imaginations (not to mention innovative methods to alter Wallabees for street wear.) Guess who found success? 5. Tupac-- All Eyez On Me. (This album is not much fun to listen to--and that's probably why I include it on this list. It think it's the man's most articulate and least bullshit-ridden album, and that's saying a lot as I like even the worst of them. The beats, though crypto-Dre, are great on this album, and every rhyme Tupac does has its own character. This was when his unique oratorical flow was at its best--before it got too goofy or crazy, a couple months later. Every song bumps, every song makes you think and worry, and they're all infected with this eerie and calculated existenial nihilism. "My every move's a calcluated step/ to lead myself closer to a mercenary death"? I should just brush that off, right? to be cont'....
― antexit (antexit), Thursday, 12 February 2004 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 11:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― detroit delinquent (nathalie), Thursday, 12 February 2004 11:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 12 February 2004 11:30 (twenty-two years ago)
1. All Eyez On Me - Tupac Shakur2. Speakerboxx/The Love Below - Outkast3. Doggystyle - Snoop Doggy Dogg4. The Chronic - Dr. Dre5. 3 Years, 5 Months And 2 Days In The Life Of... - Arrested Development6. Hipocrisy Is The Greatest Luxury - The Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy7. Regulate..The G-Funk Era - Warren G8. The Marshall Mathers LP - Eninem9. Miss E...So Addictive - Missy Elliott10.Stankonia - Outkast
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 12 February 2004 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 12 February 2004 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 12 February 2004 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Thursday, 12 February 2004 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)
* 2pac: All Eyez On Me* Public Enemy: Yo! Bum Rush The Show* A Tribe Called Quest: People's Instinctive Travels & The Paths Of Rhythm* Bubba Sparxxx: Deliverance* OutKast: Stankonia* Malk de Koijn: Sneglzilla* Missy: Miss E - So Addictive* Wu-Tang Clan: The W* NWA: Straight Outta Compton* Eminem: The Slim Shady LP
― Jay Kid (Jay K), Thursday, 12 February 2004 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Shooz (shooz), Thursday, 12 February 2004 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Rocco, Thursday, 12 February 2004 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris V (Chris V), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris V (Chris V), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)
Eric B. & Rakim, Follow The LeaderSchoolly D, Smoke Some KillPublic Enemy, It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us BackPete Rock & CL Smooth, Mecca and the Soul BrotherTricky, Pre-Millennium TensionThe Jungle Brothers, Straight Out The JungleSensational, Loaded With PowerOl' Dirty Bastard, Return To The 36 Chambers...The Dirty VersionGenius/GZA, Liquid SwordsIce Cube, AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― tipustiger, Thursday, 12 February 2004 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)
36 chambersready to diedoggystyleillmaticthe blueprint
the wcuban linxsupreme clienteleironmanliquid swords
― robin (robin), Thursday, 12 February 2004 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 12 February 2004 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― christoff (christoff), Thursday, 12 February 2004 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)
This is harder than it looks. My list looks just like everyone else's!
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Thursday, 12 February 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 12 February 2004 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Thursday, 12 February 2004 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 12 February 2004 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)
It's not hard to pick these out because I have things to remind me. I have a 'Supreme Clientele' neighborhoodie, I'm planning to get an "Inner City Griot" one and I am getting a tattoo that says "From The Soul" when go back to Canada in May.
― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Thursday, 12 February 2004 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 12 February 2004 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mil, Thursday, 12 February 2004 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)
Forgive me Big L, it's early here.
― Mil, Thursday, 12 February 2004 23:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― angel duster, Friday, 13 February 2004 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― subgenius (subgenius), Friday, 13 February 2004 01:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Maciej, Friday, 13 February 2004 02:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sym (shmuel), Friday, 13 February 2004 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jaromil (Jaromil), Friday, 13 February 2004 08:01 (twenty-two years ago)
1. Big Pun - Capital Punishment2. Pac - All Eyez On Me3. UGK - Ridin' Dirty4. Bobby Digital - Bobby Digital In Stereo5. Mobb Deep - The Infamous6. Eminem - The Eminem Show7. Dr Dre - Chronic 20018. Scarface - Mr Scarface Is Back9. E40 - Charlie Hustle10. Jay Z - Vol 3
― SE14, Friday, 13 February 2004 09:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Orange, Friday, 13 February 2004 11:51 (twenty-two years ago)
It's not racist; I could pick 10 rock albums in the same way...
― paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 13 February 2004 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)
01. A Tribe Called Queset, _The Low End Theory_02. Snoop Doggy Dog, _Doggystyle_03. Del Tha Funky Homosapien, _No Need For Alarm_04. Raekwon, _Only Built 4 Cuban Linx_05. Dr. Octagon, _The Octagynecologist_06. Talib Kweli & Hi-Tek, _Reflection Eternal_07. Handsome Boy Modeling School, _So, How's Your Girl?_08. Scaramanga, _7 Eyes, 7 Horns_09. Haiku D'Etat, _Haiku D'Etat_10. De La Soul, _The Grind Date_
-- Squirrel_Police (goblinatri...), September 22nd, 2006. (later)
― and PappaWheelie, author of Have You Ever Been Poxy Fuled? (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 22 September 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Friday, 22 September 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)
― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Sunday, 24 September 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Sunday, 24 September 2006 01:57 (nineteen years ago)
Follow the LeaderPaul's BoutiqueNo One Can Do It BetterMidnight MaraudersIllmaticReasonable DoubtAqueminiSupreme ClienteleLord Willin'MM... Food
― nate p. (natepatrin), Sunday, 24 September 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)
Run DMC - Self Titled (life changing)Beastie Boys - License to IllPublic Enemy - Nation of Millions (life changing)Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique (I didn't like this until later)DJ Magic Mike - Bass is the Name of the GameThe Pharcyde - Bizarre RideDigable Planets - Refutation (oddly life changing)Tribe Called Quest - Midnight MaraudersWu Tang - 36 ChambersThe Pharcyde - Labcabin
― PappaWheelie says, ''only pick any'' (PappaWheelie 2), Sunday, 24 September 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)
― POX^3 (let x=2) (vahid), Sunday, 24 September 2006 03:41 (nineteen years ago)
Outkast: AqueminiGravediggaz: 6 Feet DeepHeltah Skeltah: NocturnalCee-Lo: Cee-Lo Green Is The Soul MachineEve: Let There Be EveM.O.P: WarriorzDa Beatminerz: Brace 4 ImpakNas: God's SonEric B. & Rakim: Paid In FullCannibal Ox: Cold Vein
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 24 September 2006 11:15 (nineteen years ago)
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 24 September 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)
Lots of love for Illmatic on this thread. Might need to hunt that down, only song I've heard is 'It ain't hard to tell' and it's pretty tight.
― Moka, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 04:01 (sixteen years ago)
that would be a good idea
― suggest friend (hmmmm), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 04:51 (sixteen years ago)
remix of my thread starting post:
illmaticready to diereasonable doubtcapital punishmentlifestyles of da poor and dangerouslow end theorytrap muzikthe chronicliquid swords3 feet high
― suggest friend (hmmmm), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 05:14 (sixteen years ago)