Jeff Buckley Classic or Dud?

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Personally I love Jeff Buckley and think Grace is a superb album and the man had a beautiful voice. But I'm sure you lot out there have very different opinions.......

Richard Jordan, Sunday, 11 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

canonization of such an ordinary talent is tough to swallow. his voice is pretty but he never put it to much use in the way of tunes. most everything he did was aor schmaltz.

keith, Sunday, 11 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

well, i personally don't think he's worth all the hype, but I would have to throw him under "classic", just because so many people ripped off Grace. The fact that a band like Coldplay can do so well 4 years after his death is testament to his influence. So despite what we think, he'll always be a classic since he died in Ol' Man River and his dad was famous.

brent d., Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Typical martyr syndrome here, but yeah I'd say classic.

Phil Paterson, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Brent- y'seemed to be a big fan when ya placed Jeff on PF's Top of the 90s. Bruised with whispers? Sounds classic to me.

Mitch Surnamewithheld, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A good choice for classic or dud - there's been so much stupid, but expected, hype. I have "Grace" and "Sketches..." and the jury's still pretty much out. Grace just seems to get more difficult to digest with every listen. There are some outstanding tracks (Last Goodbye, Eternal Life, Dream Brother), but overall Buckley seems to be trying too hard to doo too many different things, often all at the same time. Lilac Wine and the Benjamin Britten hymn just get in the way and kill the momentum. I'd happily never hear them again.

For me, "Sketches..." is a different story. I know it's not a 'proper' album and would never have been released in this form if Buckley had lived, but it's pretty damn good, much better than Grace. Without the opportunity to slap a load of raga-strings over the top and over-arrange the hell out of this material, it sounds really strong to me. "Everybody..." "Vancouver", "Yard of Blonde Girls", "Opened Once" are fantastic. The home demos CD, packaged along with "Sketches" is complete crap, of course. The live album sounds like a load of rock-legend showboating, but no doubt there will be more live stuff to follow. Probably best to avoid. Overall, dud I suppose.

Dr. C, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Grace - brilliant, just brilliant. Occasionally a little overblown, but "Lover, You Should Have Come Over" is perfection. As for Sketches, "Vancouver" is as good as most of the songs off Grace but the rest of it is sorely lacking. But still good considering they are unfinished. The home demos are best left unmentioned, actually, best left unlistened to.

Edward Okulicz, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh Jesus H. Christ, THAT bastard. On a human level it's sorry to see anyone depart accidentally from this world, but on a cold, cruel music crit level thank fuck he didn't do any more than he did. All he was ever good for was inspiring "Fake Plastic Trees," which pisses from a rather large height over his miserable music. The fact that Coldplay *has* triumphed indicates that there are ingrates and fools running rampant, once again. DIE DIE DIE. Oh wait, he is dead. Never mind.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ned, clearly your comments about the wretched Coldplay are correct, but why do you hate Buckley so much? Your reply was little more than a glorified 'he sucks'- can't you say WHY you think so? It might be a little more interesting.

Dr. C, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Speaking for myself, I just find old Jeff a little too overly- histrionic and bloated musically. Granted he had a nice voice, but he didn't utilise it in the right way. He was like one of those singers at amateur night at the Apollo Theater who does a 10-minute version of Over the Rainbow.

Nicole, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It appears he's already ascended into classic status, given the obligatory bio and weird post-mortem fandom. I liked Grace but found it patchy. The Sketches material was equally iffy but it had some great moments, too. I didn't understand why he was so down on the Tom Verlaine sessions -- they seemed fine to me. The best had yet to come, but I don't think he was as hotsnot as most make him. Anyway, I've got a Makaveli 6 bootleg I can sell you...

Andy, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've never heard anything convincing.

the pinefox, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He was pleasant enough. I'd rather listen to 'Grace' than 'The Bends' in all honesty - for me it just has a certain magical quality that Yorke and co don't.

DG, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

His studio albums are listenable, but his real greatness comes out in Mystery White Boy. He was such a perfectionist that only in live performances could he completely give himself to the music. At a minimum this album shows his skill as a performer.

Classic

Josh D, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

To Dr. C -- you have to allow for the passion of hate there. ;-) If you want a more 'reasoned' response -- how cold that sounds! -- then I rather think he loved his voice not too wisely but too well, and insisted on making a series of wretched showings of it. A man who makes Robert Plant and Freddie Mercury combined seem subtle is not someone I'm going to rank as a burst of effluent energy across a skyscape of broken dreams -- I will, however, enjoyably mock him as a doofus. And his Smiths covers ate. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I met him at a signing on the Grace tour. He recommended a Gastr Del Sol record on Big Cat that I've never been able to find (Does it exist?). I was sad to hear that he'd died.

I find his canonistion problematic, even though he was a personable and approachable fellow. One above average record and an interesting live set does not a classic make.

Richard Jones, Friday, 16 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

shouldn't the question be "tim buckley classic or dud?". jeff was promising but certainly not classic.

nathalie c-c, Tuesday, 20 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

In response to the first respondent... That would be interesting to hear "Demon John" and "Your Flesh Is So Nice" on album-oriented radio....heheheheh...

In case you don't get it, Jeff Buckley was never very commercial, but he did some very dissonant and difficult 4-track experiments that ended up on his second product "Sketches For My Sweetheart The Drunk." He also did a very harsh, grating porno-punk song in the best tradition of, of, heck I dunno. My only exposure to punk is Greenday and Elastica, and I don't even know if they're really punk.

Jack Redelfs, Wednesday, 21 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

His version of Kanga-Roo on Mystery White Boy tops the original Big Star version.

Sterling Clover, Saturday, 24 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Loved Grace at the time, and heard some of it for the first time in ages at a friend's house the other day. I still found it pretty good, though it seems somewhat more po-faced now than when I was a teen. 'Sketches' is very patchy but has some pretty good stuff. I think I'll say classic. More talented a songwriter than his father, certainly.

Ally C, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The more I listen to Tim Buckley's music, the more I think what Jeff did was only a good start. He showed a willingness to go out on a limb, but he never pushed his voice as far as Tim did. In response to the person who said he was a better songwriter than his father, I simply don't agree. First off, how many originals of his do we have? Nearly a third of the songs on Grace are covers, and, as others have pointed out, nearly the entire second CD of Sketches is unlistenable. Tim certainly wrote his share of duds, but he also wrote a number of truly wonderful songs. And his best songs sound effortless, which is more than you can say for most of Grace. Perhaps Jeff might've stopped trying so hard; we see him going in that direction with Sketches. But, sadly, we'll never know.

Matt Purdy, Sunday, 4 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three years pass...
His mother once cyber-harassed me in iMusic for talking about a bootleg recording of Jeff covering "I Against I" by the Bad Brains. It was such an ugly exchange that it virtually put me off enjoying his music.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Everything I've seen about his mom scares me. I wish I had been able to see him live though. From some accounts he was a dick, though that has never been an impediment to musical or performing talent.

Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

Oh Jesus H. Christ, THAT bastard.

This has to be the most un-Ned sentence ever.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I attended this thing that his mother orchestrated a few years back. A documentary was shown along with a live video and then she spoke for a bit. The evening was enjoyable enough, but his mom did strike as uber-vulture.

darin (darin), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Ugh. His voice makes Conor Oberst sound like Smokey Robinson.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

very interesting thread.

agreed:

Ned, i just can't abide Coldplay either and i don't know why. No actually i do. they peddle 'cheap, emotional patriotism' - see 'the scientist'. they send shivers down my spine in a lot of very bad ways, where somehow Jeff despite being One For The Ladayz manages to touch nerve-endings in an intimate folk-rock aor ballady number without resorting to such lyrical, emotional schmaltz that seems to cling like Gwyneth to a lot of Clayplod's output. 'Grace' is a fine, fine record of it's kind.

crappy cash-in live/unreleased albums, greedy moms, walking into rivers and rampant self-mythologisation: Dud.

Agreed Matt Purdy. For me it's all about Tim Buckley. Wading through the smack-outs and jazz odyssies may dissuade some, but pan-handling Tim's back catalogue gives a clear 50% yield of PURE FUCKING NUGGETS.

Sometimes nothing, no-one, is ever going to hit the mark like a Tim Buckley classic. No-one. And for the casual listener the joy is discovering these treasures without having them rammed down your throat by anyone.

john clarkson, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

I flew down to L.A. one year and went to this event that sounds like what darin described. She was definitely very militant about the whole downloading/bootleg issue from quite early on, which you know, I don't agree with, but I don't recall a time when she was actually rude about it. I still get the Jeff Buckley Newsletter and read her responses to reader's questions and all that. I can't say I've ever really gotten a bad vibe off her. She seems like a nice lady and I think it's rather impressive the amount of work she's taken on, I mean, as a fan, I'm glad she went to all that trouble and sacrifice. I don't think every mother would. I'm honestly sorry to hear you had that experience, Alex.

I will allow that there did get to be a point where I felt like it had gone a little too far with the posthumous releases, though. I still find the double SinE CD to be painful to listen to, I guess because it's such an intimate setting and he just seems so alive and in your face, and the video interview that came with that was devastatingly short - like 15 minutes. At some point I just wanted to stop reopening the wounds and finally quit grieving him and it was like I wasn't being allowed that. Some part of me feels that where he was planning on going musically when he left us was just so much more important than this stuff. And I didn't buy the reissue of Grace, either.

I hope no one takes offense at any of this, it's just my perspective. I don't play him often now but when I do, I prefer to listen to the last things he did, even where they are rough. I'd like to think he's still continuing on somewhere, I guess, that he's on his 4th album now and we just aren't privy to it.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

I've had to work with his mother, and she's a complete head case. A terrible human being suffering from a chronic case of what I call Executor's Disease: confusing yourself with the deceased.

And Jeff, who I was acquainted with, didn't like her either.

I was at that Sin-e show and it sounded a lot better in person than it does on the double live reissue. He was really amazing live. Fearless even.

shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

I once chanced upon him playing on the main stage at Glastonbury -- he was amazing, I didn't even know who he was, I had to ask. So I went out and bought the album and thought, meh. So yeah mainly dud if only cos of all the lame copyists.

Steve.n. (sjkirk), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

I once chanced upon him playing on the main stage at Glastonbury -- he was amazing, I didn't even know who he was, I had to ask. So I went out and bought the album and thought, meh

Exactly.

Jeff, who I was acquainted with, didn't like her either.

What gave you that impression?

Huey (Huey), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

I'm so surprised at the general ILX vote here (esp. such virtriol from Ned!). I think he was extremely talented as a singer, and a much better than average songwriter (Mojo Pin, Lover You Should've, Last Goodbye, Grace). His EP 'Live at Sin-e' was the first I heard him. The album 'Grace' suffers from overproduction at times but on the whole I think it's great. I definitely come back to it after years and years. And re: his mother's kookiness -- who cares?

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

Yeah i'm rather surprised too i must say. Grace is one of my favourite albums, ive probably listened to it 200+ times and the opening "I'm lying in my bed, the blanket is warm. this body will never be safe from harm...." still sends a shiver down my spine. "Morning Theft" from "Sketches..." is my favourite Jeff song, it's sublimely wonderful.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

TS Jeff Buckley vs. Nellie McKay. *flees*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

Huey, I got that impression when I heard him say, "I can't stand my mother."

They were barely speaking when he died.

She's a nightmare. Check out the wedding picture of her and Tim and the look on Tim's face. He knew.

Jed: OTM re: "Morning Theft."

I'm also quite fond of "Jewel Box."

shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

well Ned doesn't like any male solo singer who is vaguely assertive or masculine in any way, so it's sort of a given that he wouldn't like Buckley (though Dr. C's reply to Ned's histrionic initial post is hilarious and totally on point.)

Grace is obviously a fantastic, really musically accomplished and just plain beautiful album, though it took me a while to warm to it myself. Now I consider it one of the best of the 90s. Who has heard the recent 2cd + DVD edition? Is there anything on there that hasn't already been released on the various other odds 'n sods packages that is worth hearing?

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

I don't know about the Grace re-issue, but that deluxe Live At Sin-e thing is fantastic (and I say this not having even checked out the DVD that came w/ it).

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

well Ned doesn't like any male solo singer who is vaguely assertive or masculine in any way

Who says I don't like Neil Diamond?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

(As it stands, approving of singers for their masculinity is for the birds. I approve of them for succeeding as opposed to sucking unlike the ol' mystic washout doofus under discussion here. ;-))

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Grace is really quite good. I'd always heard fragments of it over the years and found it compelling but not enough to buy it or anything, maybe because it seemed out of step with the other stuff I was into at the time. And then a year or two I came into possession of it, and, yeah, it's great. Especially late at night.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

ol' mystic washout doofus
HA. Ned, anyone else you would put in this category? Kevin Sheilds perhaps???

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

Hey, Billy Corgan's turned into one several times!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

dnftjbt

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

Anyone who can't see the greatness of his cover of Genesis' "Back In N.Y.C." is just lost in a forest for the trees.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 25 February 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

Well I suppose there aren't a whole lot of Buckley fans on here, and you know, that's fine, but I just wanted to say I think my favourite song of his ever is "Gunshot Glitter" and if you're in the U.S. and bought a U.S. version of Sketches, this song won't be on it! You have to get the UK version. And I think that's so sad that the two versions of Sketches are identical except for this one song that got left off. The first time I heard it I thought "this is the closest thing I've heard to the Cocteaus yet" although I don't feel that way now when I play it. Go figure. I still think it's my favourite song of his.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 28 February 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)

Say what you may about the hype and the canonizataion and the "martyr syndrome," but I don't see how anyone can deny the power of songs like "Lover, You Should've COme Over" or his rendition of "Halllelujah." He had a gorgeous voice and the talent to do something above and beyond what we've heard from him, but what he left behind is great on it's own right. Grace is excellent, if spotty, and Sketeches has many songs that would've been special had Jeff seen their completion. "Witche's Rave," "Jewel Box," "Everybody Here Wants You," "Nightmares By the Sea," etc. are all greta tunes.


Classic.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 28 February 2005 06:47 (twenty years ago)


Grace's "flaws" are it's Masterpiece. Classic.

miss chievous grin (miss chevious grin), Monday, 28 February 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

I dig 'Grace,' but his version of "Hallelujah" defines the phrase "epochal misreading."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 28 February 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

I used to like this fellow, but now I don't really care. However, he got me into Leonard Cohen, so classic.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 28 February 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

And re: his mother's kookiness -- who cares?

Well, personally speaking, the notion that his mother was trolling around the `net, chastising JEFF'S FANS for discussing his music (when, the point could be made in the particular instance i was caught in, it was the BAD BRAINS who were actually getting short-changed) left quite a bad taste in my mouth, so much so that it almost completely put me off the man's music, which is a shame. I'd paste some of the comments that were made during the exchange (it was rumored that she also used a variety of pseudonymns), but .....hmmmm....I was going to say "why dig up old bones?" or "that's just water under the bridge", but I can't think of a colloquialism that isn't somehow in exceptionally poor taste.

In any case, it never struck me as a good idea that someone so close to the deceased should be in charge of his vaults. I'm sure her maternal instincts and deep feelings of loss amplified any legitimate legal grievances, so she's not really to be blamed, I suppose. Still, I can't listen to the stuff anymore without thinking of her sitting at a computer, foaming at the mouth, ripping her hair out and painting herself red with lipstick like Diane Ladd in "Wild at Heart".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

Or the same dealer.

Blood On The Knobs, Thursday, 14 August 2025 15:58 (five months ago)

saw this tonight, absolutely great documentary. was amazing to get that Middle East set at the end as well.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 16 August 2025 06:12 (four months ago)

also, I'm only peripherally aware of the criticism people have for his mother (some of it centered around what she allows to be released or not, which IMO is completely her perogative). I don't think the doc comes across as biased in her favor in any manner despite her presence in it. It was nice to hear the answering machine messages he'd left her. This was also the first time I'd heard that he had what seemed to be a psychotic episode in Memphis likely brought on by being bipolar. Withat that context, suddenly deciding to go for a swim in an unpredictable place in the river makes a lot more sense.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 16 August 2025 21:08 (four months ago)

apparently he told Verlaine he thought he was bipolar during the 2nd LP sessions

conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Friday, 22 August 2025 21:15 (four months ago)

(have not seen the movie, maybe this is in there!)

conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Friday, 22 August 2025 21:15 (four months ago)

it is

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 22 August 2025 23:31 (four months ago)

Wow, a lot of songs have been written about him.

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2025 03:36 (four months ago)

Wonder why they didn't deal more with the music, poor Gary Lucas isn't even mentioned, maybe he talked shit about Mary in the past.

Dave Lory's book was on some kindle deal a while back and I thought it was the best writing yet.

Still tragic but avowedly non-hagiographical, painting a picture of the less dramatic troubles that he had to deal with: exhaustion, writer's block, losing band members (Tighe was also apparently very hard work), record company expectations, drugs and so on.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 30 August 2025 10:14 (four months ago)

Gary Lucas doesn't get mentioned at all? Maybe, can't recall

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2025 14:33 (four months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9yowBYgePY

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2025 14:40 (four months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d05Yy62zP8

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2025 14:40 (four months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blhEOSFGrqY

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2025 14:41 (four months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyx3M3DEAtI

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2025 14:43 (four months ago)

All songs about him.

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2025 14:47 (four months ago)

Dave Lory book you recommended seems great.

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2025 15:38 (four months ago)

I perhaps mistakenly believe that about half the songs on Joan as Police Woman’s phenomenal first album are about him - most days this is my favourite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w_mHx26lz4

Maggy Scraggle, Saturday, 30 August 2025 16:26 (four months ago)

Ha, I was gonna post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMCQJ11aotg

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2025 16:47 (four months ago)

"Rilkean Heart" is particularly moving, but all of these are good.

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2025 16:58 (four months ago)

Faye Wong version of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVsYQcQVvKA

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 August 2025 13:22 (four months ago)

I’m so confused. I saw Gary Lucas footage. Hell, he’s even in the trailer. But maybe it’s one of those things where they are showing different cuts at different screenings. 🤷‍♂️

A Gary Lucas documentary could be fun. He’s charming, strange, and everyone likes him. But he’s done a relatively nice job at documenting his career so I’m not sure there’d by anything new to mine.

I purchased Grace in 95 or 96 and he felt very popular to me. But I was 11 or 12 so anyone that I knew enough to spend allowance money on seemed very popular. When he died, it was all over Much and MTV.

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 31 August 2025 14:59 (four months ago)

tldr Grace is a certified banger. 10/10. RIP.

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 31 August 2025 15:00 (four months ago)

Lucas isn't interviewed in the doc. He is shown in some archival scenes.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 31 August 2025 17:04 (four months ago)

xp- before I learned of Buckley's death, I remember reading a three-line blurb in some newspaper that a search was on for a "missing folksinger". It was a few days before they found his body. "Missing" always a bad sign if it isn't the sort of person I could see wanting to drop out of society for awhile.

Lee626, Sunday, 31 August 2025 17:32 (four months ago)

"Rilkean Heart" is particularly moving, but all of these are good.

I feel like I may have heard Liz dated Jeff and wrote a song about him but I’m not sure I ever knew which one it was or saw the lyrics (which are hard to discern without a lyric sheet, which wasn’t available in the early internet mid-90s).

I’ve always loved Rilkean Heart tho. What an incredibly fraught relationship that must have been.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 31 August 2025 18:14 (four months ago)

My current understanding is that they were friends and she wanted a romantic relationship although he didn't, but I am not sure.

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 August 2025 23:56 (four months ago)

Just found out about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZzAHSU8jXo

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 September 2025 00:05 (four months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7G90ZylP6g

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 September 2025 00:54 (four months ago)

On the topic of Gary Lucas, I am always fascinated every time I learn of yet another musician who was in Gods and Monsters at one time or another.

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 September 2025 00:56 (four months ago)

Wow, this song too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRqMPRURtsM

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 September 2025 01:06 (four months ago)

As well as this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IY6Uz-_CPY

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 September 2025 01:07 (four months ago)

“All Flowers in Time” is so beautiful but it always made me feel a bit uncomfortable listening to it… apparently Liz Fraser didn’t want it released and it’s just so intimate (her little “oh god!” at the end!)

Some people speculate “Morning Theft” from Sketches is about Fraser… “your precious daughter in the other room asleep”

Roz, Monday, 1 September 2025 14:33 (four months ago)

Just noticed there are quite a few cover versions of "All Flowers in Time."

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 September 2025 14:44 (four months ago)

Looks like Gary Lucas wrote his own Jeff Buckley memoir but maybe it's a lot of sour grapes.

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 September 2025 14:55 (four months ago)

Morning Theft's my favourite off Sketches

conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Monday, 1 September 2025 15:21 (four months ago)

I loved Nightmares by the Sea.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 1 September 2025 18:51 (four months ago)

Seems like a lot of women have written about him!

AI Jardine (Tom D.), Monday, 1 September 2025 19:27 (four months ago)

... what happened to Liz Fraser's accent btw?

AI Jardine (Tom D.), Monday, 1 September 2025 19:30 (four months ago)

What do you mean?

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 September 2025 21:41 (four months ago)

She's got a horrible Anglo-Scots accent, she sounds like Lulu.

AI Jardine (Tom D.), Monday, 1 September 2025 21:49 (four months ago)

Which makes Robin Guthrie Maurice Gibb?

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 September 2025 22:22 (four months ago)

Ye whit? Lulu sounded pure Glesga when she wis winchin' Maurice Gibb.

AI Jardine (Tom D.), Monday, 1 September 2025 22:30 (four months ago)

Heh

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 September 2025 23:48 (four months ago)

Okay, the Dave Lory book is really good.

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 September 2025 23:48 (four months ago)

This song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB3XYiMonQA

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:28 (four months ago)

And the guy wrote two others about him as well.

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:28 (four months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiMeZQgySPY

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:30 (four months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQRnERdpyr8

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:31 (four months ago)

There was also « Seekers who are lovers » by the Cocteau twins about him

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:53 (four months ago)

Just watched this new Darren Aronovsky movie set in NYC during the 90s and, the whole time I was watching, part of my brain thought that Austin Butler was playing Jeff Buckley.

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 4 September 2025 21:01 (four months ago)

three months pass...

Debating whether to click on those Jimmy Gnecco videos again.

Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 December 2025 20:44 (one month ago)


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