Flamin' Groovies! C or D?

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While the rest of San Francisco (except Blue Cheer) was smoking myrrh and singing about flowers in the hair, the Groovies were rocking on Gretsch's and singing about revved-up teenage heads... an isolated anomaly? Or influential powerhouse? Early R&B period or later British Invasion stuff?

Andy!, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Simply put the best "classic" rock band!!! Basically they were Rolling Stones playing Beatles' songs or vicerversa...

Simone, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I love the hits (esp. slow death & shake some action), but listening to a whole record is a little dull (maybe I just haven't heard the right record yet).

friz, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The 5 6 7 8's completely destroyed "Teenage Head" (in a good way)

Brian MacDonald, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

fritz - you haven't heard the right record yet.
unless you have heard "Teenage Head" & didnt like it but how could you? OK you could, they're a total fanboy band & can seem campy & pastiche-y in a too- cute way. but i love them.
Roy Loney or Chris Wilson? Roy Loney. But "Shake Some Action" is great too.

duane, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

For some reason, I have no recollection of ever hearing this band, although the name pops up with reasonable regularity. Search & Destroy?

I heart the 5 6 7 8s.

emil.y, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, very classic.

search - teenage head, flamingo, the two recent Norton records comps (the rarities one and the live one), the GoldStar sessions, Shake Some Action (the "we wanna be the Beatles" lp) and Jumpin in the Night (the "no, we wanna be the Rolling Stones" LP).

damage, slightly (can't quite bring myself to destroy any) - Sneakers (the self-issued first EP), Rock Juice, and the other sad little things they put out in the 90s.

While living in SF, I saw Roy Loney around town a few times. He was playing with a bunch of ex-Groovies in a band called the Fondellas for a while. Sounded much like the "Teenage Head" era band. I like both the R&B meets the MC5 era stuff AND the British Invasion- ish period stuff. Vacillate randomly between them, depending on mood, etc.

pauls00, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like "Shake Some Action" and "Headin' For The Texas Border" but a lot of their stuff does seem like yr bog-standard Stones bluesy rockers, well done and all but nothing to really blow yr mind. I much prefer Doug Sahm, early Pretty Things, or George Thorogood for that kind of mulch. But maybe I just haven't heard the right rec.

Andrew L, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I *really* need to give them another chance. I bought Teenage Head at the height of punk and just didn't get it. "So what if they're from SF and aren't hippies, this is boring Sixties shit! Gimme Crime!" Since then I've grown to love "Teenage Head" the song and "Shake Some Action", I just wish I could find that album I bought way back when. I got it at Beserkely Records in Berkeley, actually, on a cross country trip with my family when I was fifteen.

Arthur, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
A revisit to say that the Groovies are as classic as you can get. I've been listening to "Teenage Confidential" from Shake Some Action on repeat for the past half hour. That song is perfect.

Yancey (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
"shake some action" is a great guitar song.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 19 May 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

"Supersnazz" is fine and sly. I actually think "Flamingo" is their best album. I always found "Teenage Head" a bit overrated, but love the title track and I guess their take on Newman's "Have You Seen My Baby?" is all right. Their Dave Edmunds stuff is spotty, but the best of it is pretty prime. Not the covers, though. The "Groovies Greatest Grooves" album is a good collection.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

has anyone heard that norton record of early demos? people tell me that it's the conversion record for people who don't "get" the groovies.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

http://www.inmusicwetrust.com/articles/images/54/r26.jpg

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

Flamin' Groovies were a jug band with a singer/writer who had a good rockabilly/Elvis thing going on the side. Then they bought Marshall amps and turned up the volume. Which yielded "Teenage Head," which I like quite a bit. The reissue of it a couple years ago, along with "Flamingo," have enough live bonus and outtake material on them to satisfy. The big amps and volume did make a difference.

After Loney left, "Shake Some Action" was mostly good, in part due to Dave Edmunds, I wager. "Now" has just been redone. I don't miss it from my collection although I did like the cover of "House of Blue Lights."

Loney without the rest of the Groovies is uneven, too. Some Phantom Movers cuts are good, some are totally nondescript. Not motivated enough to categorize since I never listen to them anymore.

George Smith, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

I saw Flamin Groovies guitarist Cyril Jordan with his current garage and a bit of power pop band Magic Christian last night. Fun fun fun. Eddie Muñoz from L.A. band The Plimsouls is on bass and Clem Burke from Blondie is drumming. They closed with a great version of "Shake Some Action." The singer is real good too---effective voice and banging away on the tambourine.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 15:01 (sixteen years ago)

eight months pass...

"shake some action" is a great guitar song.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:37 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark

amateurist, Saturday, 24 October 2009 05:50 (fifteen years ago)

four months pass...

I have always fought shy of using ILx to publicise the Hangover Lounge (which I help to run each week in London) but I am excited about the line-up we have this week, including Chris Wilson of the Flamin' Groovies. When we have live acts, they play completely unamplified: no microphones, no nothing. When it's awesome, it's awesome.

More details: http://hangoverlounge.blogspot.com/

Tim, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3pP29N-Wc

Fucking goddamn hell-ass shit I love this song.

Burning Hell Sunflower Blues Band (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 31 July 2011 08:22 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

How was the NYC show and the Maxwells in Hoboken one?

curmudgeon, Sunday, 7 July 2013 17:06 (eleven years ago)

ny show had more energy than rhythm & coherence, but maybe that was always true? they seemed happy to be there, that's for sure. chris wilson did most of the talking, in accents that kept shifting among british, german, and american. he was tipsy and occasionally incoherent, rambling on for a minute or two after the band had left the stage. but he was clearly happy, and he had a unique sort of rock-god jig he'd sometimes break into. the two guitars sounded great together, cyril jordan still rocking that dan armstrong plexiglass model. voices a little worse for wear but still functional. slow death, the highlights from shake some action, teenage head, all the hits. cyril's got to be wearing a wig. that's a wig, right? great beatle boots too -- always the fashion plate. fun show, worth seeing.

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 7 July 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago)

I saw the Flamin' Groovies a couple of years ago, Roy Loney & Cyril Jordan line up, Chris Wilson came on to do a couple of songs inc Shake Some Action, he was one of the drunkest motherfuckers I'd even seen on stage in my life. They had to kind of manhandle him off after a couple of songs. Just before he went off he shouted "Flamin' Groovies forever!" into the mic. Chris Wilson OTM.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 8 July 2013 07:46 (eleven years ago)

They seem like one of those bands the Replacements would have loved, but I've never heard anyone shout them out save Yo La Tengo. Oh, and Cracker covered "Shake Some Action" on ... the "Clueless" soundtrack?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 July 2013 12:11 (eleven years ago)

In the early '80s they were always name-dropped a lot by critics and such (I vaguely recall)

curmudgeon, Monday, 8 July 2013 13:58 (eleven years ago)

two weeks pass...

they would be classic if this was the only thing they'd ever released

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIcmk8WA10A

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 28 July 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago)

I love bittersweet, I can't hide, babes in the sky and way over my head. love time is good too. need to hear more of their stuff though. any recommendations?

OutdoorFish, Sunday, 28 July 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago)

otoh, they'd be classic if this was the only thing they'd ever released

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkN9Nbr7XrY

IIIrd Datekeeper (contenderizer), Sunday, 28 July 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago)

lol, sure, why not post it again?

IIIrd Datekeeper (contenderizer), Sunday, 28 July 2013 22:57 (eleven years ago)

golden clouds and call me lightning are also excellent

OutdoorFish, Monday, 29 July 2013 00:26 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXfsHztgH84

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 July 2013 01:57 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQPAEXe20jA

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 July 2013 01:57 (eleven years ago)

Quality Dylan cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu21t8pOMfs

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 July 2013 01:58 (eleven years ago)

yeah i guess shake some action b/w slow death is their greatest hit.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 29 July 2013 20:19 (eleven years ago)

always like this, too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EwXq8rtmhI

IIIrd Datekeeper (contenderizer), Monday, 29 July 2013 22:26 (eleven years ago)

eight months pass...

are the 2014 flamin groovies worth $20? they're playing with the men tonight which is sort of an inspired pairing imo

adam, Monday, 28 April 2014 16:41 (eleven years ago)

I sadly missed their recent DC gig, but folks whose opinions I respect liked it (their complaints were more re the sound engineering that night).

curmudgeon, Monday, 28 April 2014 16:43 (eleven years ago)

I was at the DC show where they had sound problems, $20 is more than reasonable for those two bands.

skip, Monday, 28 April 2014 17:47 (eleven years ago)

awesome, thanks, let's see if i can motivate my lazy ass to go out on a monday

adam, Monday, 28 April 2014 18:02 (eleven years ago)

Wait, Groovies and Sonics played two shows in Brooklyn last November?

Bee Traven Thousand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 April 2014 18:42 (eleven years ago)

You gotta follow Miriam Linna and Billy Miller of Norton records on facebook...Interesting garage and more stuff even if one is not in NYC

curmudgeon, Monday, 28 April 2014 19:45 (eleven years ago)

Hm.

Bee Traven Thousand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 04:01 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

Really diggin Teenage Head rekkid tonight. Is there a recent vinyl reissue? I'm curious about the Ron Loney solo slab - is it any good?

BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 22 August 2015 00:48 (nine years ago)

There's a vinyl reissue on Norton, I think. Usually $16-20. There's a Roy Loney solo EP (Artistic As Hell) from the late 70s that's really good, acoustic guitars but rocking and basically a Groovies/Hot Knives reunion. I think the whole thing's on Youtube, worth checking out.

a poetic ODE to FORNICATION (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 22 August 2015 01:58 (nine years ago)

Cyril Jordan has had a series of memoirs of his early years published in Ugly Things. Not sure how many episodes so far but its traced through from early 60s to early 70s in about 5 segments so far. Very interesting so far.

Also not heard mention of material I have as A Bucketful of Brains the Rockfield Sessions unless it's been rereleased as something else. Recorded in Wales in I think 1972. Think it's good but not heard it in ages.

Coincidentally I have the fabric to make myself some Blackwatch tartan jeans. Have wanted a pair since Chris Wilson got some down the King's Rd when I was 15 and seeing him frequently at the Regal in Kensington Market.

Stevolende, Saturday, 22 August 2015 07:24 (nine years ago)

new record coming from the groovies from what i understand...

Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 22 August 2015 07:27 (nine years ago)

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2015/08/the_flamin_groo_2.html

Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 22 August 2015 07:31 (nine years ago)

A Bucketful of Brains the Rockfield Sessions

I've heard this, it's good stuff. Also highly recommend the Slow Death (Amazing High Energy Rock'n'Roll) LP on Norton, super raw (in the best possible way) stuff recorded post-Loney but still sounds like Teenage Head/Flamingo era. A lot of material in common with the Rockfield album, though.

a poetic ODE to FORNICATION (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 22 August 2015 07:42 (nine years ago)

Yeah forgot to add that I got that Bucketful of Brains in a sale in the mid 90s I think. Which would possibly mean that it wasn't in catalogue much longer and the material was up for further reissue.

Stevolende, Saturday, 22 August 2015 08:17 (nine years ago)

Oh it's actually different recordings, just a lot of songs in common I should've said. I think Rockfield's been reissued on CD with Sneakers though.

a poetic ODE to FORNICATION (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 22 August 2015 09:18 (nine years ago)

Yeah, even "Shake some action" has a few released versions.

Mark G, Saturday, 22 August 2015 21:45 (nine years ago)

They are doing some November US tour dates

curmudgeon, Monday, 24 August 2015 13:04 (nine years ago)

Has anyone seen them live recently? Chris Wilson's voice seems to be absolutely shot

PaulTMA, Monday, 24 August 2015 18:34 (nine years ago)

A friend of mine who can be picky saw them a year or so ago, and mostly just complained about the sound system. So maybe that disguised his vocal issues

curmudgeon, Monday, 24 August 2015 20:13 (nine years ago)

Was it here that somebody was going on about Chris being noticeably drunk on stage?
I think it may be something he had trouble with before. Think he said something to me when I was drinking in the mid 80s and bumping into him around London. Hope he's ok he was a nice guy when I was acquainted with him.

Stevolende, Monday, 24 August 2015 23:14 (nine years ago)

Brief interview w/Chris Wilson: http://www.downtownmagazinenyc.com/the-flamin-groovies-chris-wilson-talks-about-the-upcoming-tour-album-and-documentary/

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 07:37 (nine years ago)

two months pass...

Saw the Flamin Groovies last night for the first time. Fun but not amazing. Chris' voice was not that impressive last night; and he was drinking. On their encore, the Stones "Jumpin Jack Flash" he sounded like he could have been any barband vocalist. They did covers of the Byrds, NRBQ and Freddie Boom Cannon ("Tallahassee Lassie") and maybe a another 1 or 2, that I forgot. "Slow Death" and "Shake Some Action" were fun

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 15:53 (nine years ago)

four years pass...

Roy Loney RIP

Roberta Bayley on FB:

Very sad news. Roy Loney, the original singer of the legendary Flamin' Groovies has died. Only minutes ago. Roy was a great talent, as a songwriter and performer, and a great friend. He was hospitalized last week, and I spoke to him Wednesday. He was in good spirits. He had a surgery this morning and never came out of it. Sorry, I have no other details. Roy will surely be missed by all who had the pleasure of knowing him.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 December 2019 21:19 (five years ago)

Oh no, RIP Roy.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 21:21 (five years ago)

RIP

"Third of the Storms" Jazz (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 13 December 2019 23:03 (five years ago)

Recently been picking up faves on vinyl for DJ'ing purposes, and one of my most prized recent acquisitions is the late 70s Euro twofer of Flamingo & Teenage Head, which is currently on my turntable.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 December 2019 23:08 (five years ago)

RIP

much better band than the Rolling Stones

calzino, Friday, 13 December 2019 23:22 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3pP29N-Wc

calzino, Friday, 13 December 2019 23:25 (five years ago)

I guess he wasn't part of "Shake Some Action," but I've always loved this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHfDjeGHtWI

clemenza, Saturday, 14 December 2019 00:53 (five years ago)

may i recommend everyone check out Roy's Artistic as Hell EP, which was more or less a Groovies reunion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDB1kXNXCF4

But please don't drive the price up on Discogs

"Third of the Storms" Jazz (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 14 December 2019 01:51 (five years ago)

glad i got the chance to see him and cyril fronting the a-bones at brooklyn's southpaw club. the very next day i remember spying him in the audience at at free performance by lee konitz in uptown manhattan.

Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 14 December 2019 15:09 (five years ago)

cool

Lidsville U.K. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 December 2019 15:25 (five years ago)


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