awwwwww shit, the new RJD2 has leaked

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Since We Last Spoke, out sometime in the Spring. I think the leaked copy is promobotted, but even if it's not I'm gonna cop that shit anyways (like I did Deadringer).

So far: holy fuckin' shit! "Exotic Talk" is on some goddamned Blue Oyster Cult '72 produced by Jean-Jacques Perrey isness! Oh damn! And the title track! OH DAMN, IT'S A LASER PLANETARIUM SPECTACULAR SOUNDTRACK INSTRUMENTAL VERSION OF "GIMME DANGER"!

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 14 February 2004 05:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I know this might seem like a corny rock-dork way of putting things and I know I'm kind of making it out to be total indie punk hip-hop foofaraw but oh man it still bumps like Corvair suspension

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 14 February 2004 05:56 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah i downloaded this.

listened to the first three tracks and was blown away. but the promobot shit i can't stand so i'm holding off until the real shit is out. looking forward!

― joshd, Saturday, 14 February 2004 06:00 (twenty-two years ago)

At least the one I'm copping has some saucy-sounding "destruct sequence in sixty seconds" lady voice instead of the Macintalk vocoder monster of despair

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 14 February 2004 06:01 (twenty-two years ago)

oog, "Making Days Longer" is on some Belle & Sebastian shit; "Six Days" sounds like "Ante Up" in comparison. So far the rest of it is on a great Chains & Black Exhaust-style black rock/acid-psych-funk roll though, so hey. "Iced Lightning" is butter.

Eight tracks in and no rapping. Hm.

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 14 February 2004 06:29 (twenty-two years ago)

'Ring Finger' is like 'Peaches En Regalia" with stutter drums, sample reversing and 300% MORE CRUNK. I'm gonna wait for May and not download anything else, I think, but if the rest of the album has this level of quality, I'm totally juiced.

― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Saturday, 14 February 2004 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i want this shiat badd

― dean! (deangulberry), Saturday, 14 February 2004 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

i havnet been able to get excited over this guy at all. resurrecting old tunes and speeding 'em up with some newly sequenced drums doesn't do much for me. he's a dj and when you listen to his cd youre just listening to a bunch of old records that he finds interesting, essentially.

― sderhy, Saturday, 14 February 2004 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

resurrecting old tunes and speeding 'em up with some newly sequenced drums doesn't do much for me

sorry, you want the Kanye West thread, it's just next door

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 14 February 2004 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Albums are getting leaked 3 months in advance now? That's crazy talk!

― Leee Majors (Leee), Saturday, 14 February 2004 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

the rumors are true. "making days longer" is pretty incredible.

― joshd, Saturday, 14 February 2004 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

sadly in my case "oog" was a synonym for "ick"

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 14 February 2004 23:08 (twenty-two years ago)

haha seriously? this is the prettiest song i've heard in ages. i like it. its happy but kinda meloncholy, the lyrics seem sad but they're actually pretty positive. the perfect soundtrack to a depressing valentine's day all alone.

― joshd, Saturday, 14 February 2004 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

there are a handful of really good tracks here but as a whole the doesn't even compare to "dead ringer".

as a general rule, hip-hop djs who dabble with rock = dud.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 14 February 2004 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

and by 'rock' i mean rock's idea of rock.

― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 14 February 2004 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)

so far this album is pretty boring. i prefer dead ringer.

― jonas wray, Sunday, 15 February 2004 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I bet by June RJ's going to be like "I thought critics gave up on that DJ Shadow comparison shit; enough with the Private Press comparisons already"

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 15 February 2004 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

this album is boring, though -- boring a hole right to the center of my brain and filling it with pimp juice

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 15 February 2004 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm waiting till this comes out.
RJD2 was pissed about the leak (check his message board).

I can wait til may. I can wait til may. I can wait til may. I can....

― djdee2005, Sunday, 15 February 2004 01:18 (twenty-two years ago)

holy shit is he EVER pissed!

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 15 February 2004 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Link please!

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 15 February 2004 01:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Uh, link?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 February 2004 01:53 (twenty-two years ago)

(Alternately, what Mike said.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 February 2004 01:53 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.rjd2site.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4914

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 15 February 2004 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

then here:

http://www.rjd2site.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5208

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 15 February 2004 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)

"YOU NEED TO CHECK YOURSELF, AND THEN YOU NEED TO GO FUCK YOURSELF AFTER THAT"

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 15 February 2004 01:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Some of those posters disturb me.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 February 2004 01:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, after reading that board I'm a lot less leery of ILM's attitude towards hip-hop.

Also: "King Shit of Fuck Mountain"! Ha!

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 15 February 2004 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)

This is the only webboard I regularly inhabit and it's the occasional nose-poking into the other ones that remind me as to why.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 February 2004 02:05 (twenty-two years ago)

"if you don't like it, go and listen to your Kylie fucking Minogue albums or maybe 50 cent and Eminem (lol - they are shit)."

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 15 February 2004 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually I kind of had to dig to find some consistent ignorance (usually on threads that start with declarations about "nerd rap" or how mainstream hip-hop is awful), but when I found it, jesus fuck

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 15 February 2004 02:20 (twenty-two years ago)

think of it like this: lets say you were making a present for someone, and you worked on it for a year and a half. and they stumbled across it in your closet before you were supposed to give it to them, and made a casual comment on it, and that was that.the surprise is ruined. that is the closest analogy i can come to here. the sanctity of a release date, the day when people were going to hear-and SEE-everything that went into the album, has been killed by the casual preview online.

If the present is also for reviewers, too, why spoil their sense of the surprise by giving them promo copies before the release date?

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 15 February 2004 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I know he has to for the sake of promotion, but let's face it, the release dates haven't had much sanctity for a while, p2p or no p2p.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 15 February 2004 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, something bugged me about the analogy and I think that puts the finger on it. It's probably in his best interest -- and that of most bands -- to start regularly distinguishing in his own mind when the album will circulate and when it will start selling, and to not pretend otherwise.

The last album I can think of that didn't leak until literally a day or two before release was Lateralus by Tool in 2001, though I'm sure there's been some examples since.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 February 2004 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Release dates are still a nice idea, and reviewers/their friends/DJs have always been an exception - it bums the hell out of me when stuff leaks early since I think listening to an album without the cover art/liner notes handy (in the case of the records I'm making, anyhow) is bullshit. The death of the release date gets me really depressed.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 February 2004 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

E-books are I suppose a slight parallel -- no cover art, author photo or any of that, just text that can be formatted as desired. Hm.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 February 2004 03:20 (twenty-two years ago)

"As desired"? You mean, like, anything?

"Man, Slaughterhouse Five would be so much better in Wingdings"

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 15 February 2004 03:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Sure, why not!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 February 2004 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

can you believe the kids on that message board, who actually believe that by downloading the album 3 months in advance they are doing the artist a favor.. and then tells him that to his face! fucking clowns.

― joshd, Sunday, 15 February 2004 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i will say that the spiralling synth bit in "making days longer" is pretty goddamned spectacular.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 16 February 2004 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

three cheers to that.

it's without a doubt one of my favorite songs i've heard this year. which says alot considering how i've been devouring music since i bought my nomad jukebox.

just thinking about it puts me in a good mood.

― joshd, Tuesday, 17 February 2004 00:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Eesh, I hope that's not the big breakout single or anything. Instrumentally I like it fine, but the singing just kinda ruins it for me. Which is easy for me to notice because every single other track on the album is amazing. It's like he's decided to save his pure hip-hop-style beats for actual rhyming-over purposes (somedays I really wish "The Horror" had MF Doom spitting over it) and decided to do some sort of post-Avalanches sample-pop album, only using Alan Parsons stoner-synth-prog and early Funkadelic-derived black/latin hard rock instead of 1970 AM staples and '80s top 40. (A potential TS: for these two could get uuuuugly.)

But perhaps I have said too much.

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

(for '1970 AM staples' read 'Nixon-era AM staples' or 'avocado and harvest gold-hued AM staples')

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I sorta wondered if "True Confessions" was some sort of harbinger; well, here we are

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 00:57 (twenty-two years ago)

dude sderhy i wuz gonna invite you over to listen to some old records i like, but... whatever

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)

but nate don't you think the singing on "making days longer" has a lovely overwroughtness to it? it feels very c-list new romantic to me, and i find it charming.

other tracks i am feeling: "since we last spoke", "since 76", "one day"

tracks i most certainly amn't: "through the walls" (this is some serious muso dj bullshit here), "to all of you"

indifference: the rest, at this point

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 01:32 (twenty-two years ago)

A very reliable source told me that because so many reviewers complained about Promobot (including yours truly), Def Jux were putting the dude to rest. Really, I don't mind labels guarding their shit, but what the Jukies do is EXCESSIVE in a way that it actually prevents me from enjoying a record.

There was a Cd a while back - I don't remember if it was Lif or Murs or whoever- but I completely refused to review it because it was giving me a headache. I mean, it sounded like they were taking the piss

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...

this album is boring, though -- boring a hole right to the center of my brain and filling it with pimp juice

-- nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, February 14, 2004 8:02 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

― and what, Saturday, 5 January 2008 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

(Chorus) w/ minor variations

(I think I just..
need to take this time and explain to 'em exactly..
what the pimp juice is)

(Chorus)
Uh, hear me out now
Now your pimp juice is anything, attract the opposite sex
It could be money, fame, or straight intellect
It don't MATTER! Bitches got the pimp juice too
Come to think about it dirty, they got more than we do
They got mo'...juice in they talk, got mo' juice in they walk
They got mo'...juice in they pants, OOH GODDAMN!
I tell you man it's a cryin shame..
.. how people use, the juice in vain - you hear me mayne (man)
Pimp juice is color blind
You find it work on all color, creeds, and kinds
From ages 50 right down to 9
The Mayor of Nellyville and I won't resign, watch me recline
Cause you wanna put your feet on my rug, don'tcha?
You really wanna put your feet on my rug, don'tcha?
You're in a hurry - SLOW DOWN! - bitch I got all night
Matter fact, stand on my left boo,I know you ain't right

― J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 January 2008 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

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