ILM Listening Chamber 3

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― ethan, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

that was supposed to say 'thril to this' and 'this' was a link to the mp3 instead of the rest of the sentence. fucking html.

― ethan, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am drunk. I like it. I love the menacing keyboards. I thought the MCs were a little generic but they were fine. The realness hooked me and was enjoyable. This is definitly the best ILM listening chamber so far.

― Ian, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

thrill to this.

― bnw, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the first MC for the vocal timbre.

― dave q, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Lordy! One of the first proper import 12s I ever got (exciting because they had the INSTRUMENTALS!), strangely, and thus will always be twinned with 'Temperature's Rising' by Mobb Deep in my mind. The beats totally outclass the rappers, but it is a very nice beat! And it's made me all nostalgic for my mid teens.

― joel, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bah, this is just as much of a dirge as those other two songs.

― Otis Wheeler, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, I like the nervous, slightly eerie keyboards buzzing underneath the bass, but I don't particularly like the MCing. I'd call it generic if I felt I knew enough about these things. The track feels lacking in vitality.

― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

feels=is (That should be the name of an avant garde post-rock outfit)

― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh man, this brings back funny memories! Why does DJ Premier like hanging around with rappers who sound retarted?

― Kris, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hey you're not supposed to say who did the track!

― ethan, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

He didn't say who the retarded rappers were.

― Josh, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

he named who made the music, that's against the rules. it's like if you put up a stones song and someone posted about jagger's voice and richards' guitar work without actually saying 'the rolling stones made this song', it destroys the whole purpose.

― ethan, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry, Ethan.

― Kris, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it's okay. i really don't think lil dap sounds retarded though.

― ethan, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

True, he sounds like a dwarf.

― Kris, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This did inspire me to put on "Shook Ones", though.

― Kris, Saturday, 6 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Lil' Dap is one of my favourite unsung heroes of hip-hop! His voice is so funny. Since this track is from his group's only major label album (their debut), may I recommend the indie follow-up. It lacks the Premier productions, but it almost makes up for it in Lil' Dap's presence. I agree that the musicial backing here is better than most rappers' on the track. I like the posse cut tradition in hiphop, though. It usually works better in an uptempo song. Can you imagine a rock or pop album with the same amount of guest appearances as the average hip-hop album?

― JoB, Sunday, 7 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i just remember finding it ironic that their second album came out in 2000 and tanked. so much for that ''95 is yours, 2000 is mine' bit, they should have just claimed '95 at the time.

― ethan, Sunday, 7 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i don't like this much. uninspired. i don't know who it is.

― gareth, Sunday, 7 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

would it be wrong, without listening to the song and by using the contextual clues (and given what i know of ethan), for me to say that this is group home? (oh, like this is giving it away! raise your hand if that name means anything to you.) great beat, shitty rappers. dap, get that dick out of your mouth.

― fred solinger, Sunday, 7 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Like Mitch said (again!)

The first rapper sounded English, but then later they say "it's a Noo York t'ing" so perhaps he isn't. Like far too many hip hop records, this says everything it's capable of in the first thirty seconds, leaving you itching to press 'skip' for the remainder of the track.

On the plus side, I don't think the spoiler posts have actually spoiled anything - if anything, I'm all the more keen to hear the explanation of this choice.

― Jeff, Monday, 8 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

its alright. i think the productions a bit boring, particularly the beats, which are pretty lame. the first mc has got a pretty cool voice. thats all i know. it doesnt excite me.

― ambrose, Monday, 8 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

reverb(meiso by dj krush + a microphone) = 3am in front room with a stack of blunts. why release it on CD?

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 8 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

WHO IN THIS BITCH LIKES CRAP?

― EdwardO, Monday, 8 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I always like DJ Premier productions on first hearing and then tend to get bored of them - the beats are always so austere (also doesnt help that every shit trip-hop producer on Mo'Wax around this time ripped off Premier to hell and back). However I'm dead pleased that I knew it was Premier before I read the answers thread. The first rapper is fun, he sounds like he's got the flu. The weird giggly loop- sound behind the beats is good too. Otherwise unexceptional and none of the rhymes leapt out, but generally more enjoyable than the others.

― Tom, Wednesday, 10 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i love Primo's production on the Jeru albums, but this really needed better MCs to make it work. plus the scratched-in line didn't make a very impressive hook. disappointing, but only in a 'Hip-hop can be so much better' kind of way

― m jemmeson, Wednesday, 10 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I hate rap. I think it must be fun to sing rap yourself but it is terribly boring to listen to it. This is no exception.

― alex in mainhattan, Thursday, 11 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sometimes I catch myself and wonder why I don't get bored of hip-hop. A lot of the complaints haters level against it _are_ true -- most of it _is_ repetitive, and a-melodic (no, I'm not words in your mouth, alex). Sometimes I wonder why it doesn't ever sound like a boring drone to me, but it doesn't. I think this is for two reasons:

1) No, the production _isn't_ just repetition. If you really listen to it, there's a lot that's going on, especially in certain styles of underground hip-hop. But you can't judge it on the criteria you judge melodic music like pop and rock (though we all know those lines are blurring); those little squiggly details and noises aren't just window dressing, they're the main attraction, and there can be just as much effort and mastery in the manipulation those scratchy little samples as in orchestrated progressive epic.

2) Groups like Company Flow, Cannibal Ox, most Hieroglyphics projects and the Automator/Prince Paul projects usually have really cerebral, intricate production. But even when the production is simple, the rapping never is. _Every_ rap is different, to match the cadences of the lyrics, which, despite repeating themes, are usually quite diverse. There's plenty of boring MC's, like Ludacris, Ja Rule, DMX and many others. But the skilled ones are always interesting, because every rap is varied in terms of rhythm and lyrics.

― Jack Redelfs, Thursday, 11 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i'll give you ja rule, but ludacris and dmx?

― ethan, Thursday, 11 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Decent beats, mediocre MCs. It's OK, but no better -- and sounds strangely tired/lacking in vitality.

― Phil, Saturday, 13 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Answer please, Ethan. And explain yourself, too. And be very verbose.

― David Raposa, Monday, 15 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i've always thought the beat was nice and i figured group home were just obscure enough so that a lot of people who've heard some primo work might not know them, so they'd judge it more blindly. which is why i was pissed when whoever-it-was so, oh, it'd dj premier. oh, the track is group home - tha realness, in case EVERY FUCKING BODY ELSE SAYING IT didn't tip you off.

― ethan, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nice of you to BE SO CONTRITE, ETHAN.

― David Raposa, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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