say something about mobb deep

"hell on earth" might be one of my fav. hip hop albums ever but mobb deep has lost their way a bit, their last little mix-CD was like a bunch of 2nd string retreads, sometimes literally (pt II!). that said, i liked bits of 'infamy' and what do people think of "gangstaz roll"/"clap those thangz" ft 50 cent or that track off barbershop 2 sndtrck? not convinced of any err.... comeback but i think it's an improvement. i don't mind the 'tired gangsta cliches' critics like to use if they continue to sound fresh and out of 'tired mid-90s production cliches.'

Preposterous.

Infamous is a fucking amazing achievement..."Trife Life" (w/ Q-Tip!), Up North Trip, Shook Ones II (obv), Give Up the Goods....oh man that album is unbelievable. So dark, nihilistic. Dreary. Amazing album.

Yeah yr right but he produced a buncha the songs on the album too...including Trife Life I believe.

My bad.

I really enjoy Havoc's production. Especially on tracks like 'streets raised me' 'spread love' and 'can't fuck wit' from Murda Muzik. Nice hi-hat/kick patterns. I wonder how his new record is.

something about mobb deep

the last verse in "up north trip" is one of my favorite verses ever

death hurts whole families

imagine its your mom that grieves

the quality of Hell on Earth, for me, is marred by the frequent occurance of the words "lime bacardi" throughout it.

they shoulda gone w/ "prime havarti". there can never be enough lines about cheese

just got Hell on Earth, and I'm a fan now.

amazing how much more raw they were back in the day.

the first song I ever heard by Mobb was admittedly that shitty song from 2001 "Hey Luvah" with 112. blech.

"Trife Life" probably gives me chills more than just about any other hip-hop song I've heard. It sounds like you're hearing this music in a sewer - the way the drums ring out, the bass sounds like its further down into the sewer and around the corner, and then there's that sound every once in a while that reminds me of a siren going over on the streets. No one I've talked to has ever really gotten the same feeling from this song but for that reason its definitely one of my all-time favorites.

^otm post; the atmosphere is undeniable... that siren sound always makes me think of steam abruptly rising out of manholes

somewhere on the internets you can find their pre-infamous demos. which are amazing.

they had a commercially released album before the infamous

http://www.northood.com/juvhell.jpg

i love how on first glace p is only boots, hands and a head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-V6zt8kD2E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDZDHOaHZLI

this is my shit... rapper noyd with the keith murray/def squad diss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuGjYUpalyA

Been playing The Infamous a lot lately - totally gives me the creeps, but in a good way.

source has some archives up...remember reading this back in the day...the Poetical Prophets (before they were Mobb Deep)

http://www.thesource.com/content/7744_k1hdggaxklhlt_al.jpg

Can't really fathom people not thinking Prodigy is a good mc. I mean fuck, has anyone other than maybe biggie ever written scarier lines?

you all alone in these streets, cousin
every man for theirself in this land we be gunnin'
and keep them shook crews runnin'
like they supposed to
they come around but they never come close to
I can see it inside your face
you're in the wrong place
cowards like you just get they're whole body laced up
with bullet holes and such
speak the wrong words man and you will get touched
you can put your whole army against my team and
I guarantee you it'll be your very last time breathin'
your simple words just don't move me
you're minor, we're major
you all up in the game and don't deserve to be a player
don't make me have to call your name out
your crew is featherweight
my gunshots'll make you levitate
I'm only nineteen but my mind is old
and when the things get for real my warm heart turns cold
another nigga deceased, another story gets told
it ain't nothin' really
hey, yo dun spark the Phillie
so I can get my mind off these yellowbacked niggas
why they still alive I don't know, go figure
meanwhile back in Queens the realness is foundation
if I die I couldn't choose a better location
when the slugs penetrate you feel a burning sensation
getting closer to God in a tight situation
now, take these words home and think it through
or the next rhyme I write might be about you

"The beats, produced by an un-named associate from Coney Island, are hooked up kinda lovely too"

^wonder who that was??

I mean I know it's not next-level wordplay or anything, but evocative as hell.

meanwhile back in Queens the realness is foundation
if I die I couldn't choose a better location
when the slugs penetrate you feel a burning sensation

^one of the best ever

I love the line about the Philly - like he's getting so enraged he can't even stand to rap about it anymore. HARD.

your crew is featherweight
my gunshots'll make you levitate

i remember once i got in an argument with slug from atmosphere who i had started talking to randomly at first avenue, he was going off about how this line sucked and i said he was way wrong

No way, that's a great line.

i want to talk about mobb deep and 50 cent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbI-pZfEVfY

sold the most crack since '86

hearing 50 do the hook on this, you might be able to imagine an alternative history where he got shot, dropped wanksta, but mysteriously faded instead of going fivedruple platinum and faded, faded back into, like, dropping albums on koch and being a generic gangsta, he sounds so mean and flawless on it. apart from this, 50 and mobb deep really only made-- "pearly gates," which was dope, one of my favorite 50 verses ever, "around the same time krs was writin 'black cop,' i was busy tryna pump cracks in the back blocks / poppin shit to my homies about how my gat pop / got rid of the chrome thing and got a black glock / p90 held ten but i had six shots..." and prodigy sounds absurd on it, talking about how he's gonna beat the shit outta jesus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwYUSe7GeaU

i fuck with "outta control," too, though, smooth thuglite raps, video is sorta amazing. my whole approach for trying to get with girls is patterned on, like, prodigy's verse in this and "big poppa."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3Oux1lN__4

i want to know what slug from atmosphere has to say about that.

i always liked the simple yet deadly "I may crack a smile, but ain't a damn thing funny"....

"Eye For an Eye" has the most coldblooded-est beat ever

this is a most favorite thread title

it's like the og "letz talk abt gucci mane"

ha

tweeted abt mobb deep last nite and now big noyd is following me

irl?

avoiding him tbh

watch ur back dun

what up cousin

gettin' closer to God
in a tight situation

Iyo, I gotta get mines, no matter what the consequences
Count all my blessings, add up my weapons
Cock back the gat and let my nine serve purpose
Sling do my thing organize fiend servants

after several years of listening, I think the beginning of the decline was the drums. I like Murda Muzik, but the drums were tinny, generic, lifeless things, whereas the drum sounds Havoc used on Infamous were loud and boom-bappy and full of life.

I know this song has been discussed to death, but I think a lot about how he says "I can see it inside your face you're in the wrong place." That's so fucking scary, not just on your face, but INSIDE your face, like he can see past your tough front into your soul.