― SCORPIUM, Saturday, 2 October 2004 08:10 (twenty years ago)
― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Saturday, 2 October 2004 08:12 (twenty years ago)
Phwoaaaarrrr.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 2 October 2004 08:20 (twenty years ago)
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 2 October 2004 08:30 (twenty years ago)
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 2 October 2004 13:41 (twenty years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 2 October 2004 13:47 (twenty years ago)
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 2 October 2004 14:04 (twenty years ago)
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 2 October 2004 14:07 (twenty years ago)
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 2 October 2004 14:10 (twenty years ago)
Hahaha. Beyond the obvious appeal of nudity, what's the big deal about porn?
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 2 October 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 2 October 2004 15:53 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:04 (twenty years ago)
No, I'm dead serious, because the site (the few times I've checked it out) seems to tout itself as some sort of new-school approach to porn, i.e. "You can get to know these girls, like, for real, and stuff! No exploitation here, nosirrreebob!!!" Which I can see the appeal of, but the whole thing just seems like Hugh's Bunnies with streaks, piercings, and webcams. So I'm asking if anyone here has actually been a fully-paid up member, and if the site is what it purports to be, or if it's just Livejournal with boobies.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:16 (twenty years ago)
― superanonymous l;) (ex machina), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:19 (twenty years ago)
THIS IS TRULY THE SADDEST DAY OF OUR LIVES
― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:39 (twenty years ago)
― Xii (Xii), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:45 (twenty years ago)
Yes, I still have nightmares about that horrible night I was forcibly taken from my home by the Pitchfork ediorial staff and made to read, aloud, random selections from the We Are The World section in a bizarre recreation of the "screening room" scene fromA Clockwork Orange.
Dr. Stanpole says I'm making remarkable progress.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago)
Suspicions confirmed. Thank you!
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:48 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Double, Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:56 (twenty years ago)
Exactly. Option A serves as some sort of relationship substitute: make a connection, however, tenuous, with this cute girl. Option B is basically vengeful: this cute girl (*SUBTEXT: that you could never, in real life, have a shot with in a million years*) is dumb enough to be here, so we're going to abuse her in ways you can only imagine. Take that, cute girl!
Of course, girls like suicide girls better, but I bet its some cool fucking dude like Hugh Heff writing all those profiles and interest lists and blog posts. It only would be sensible in terms of cost/doability.
That's pretty much what I thought when I first browsed that site.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago)
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:21 (twenty years ago)
http://img4.imgspot.com/u/04/275/18/cureporn.JPG
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:26 (twenty years ago)
― everything, Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― peter $.., Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:38 (twenty years ago)
"from the makers of SuicideGirls.com...NOIZEBOIZE.COM"
(x-post)
― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago)
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:42 (twenty years ago)
Part A seems a bit over-stated too. So Pornography is the sole preserve of people who can't get proper girlfriends, is it?
Not necessarily, no, but there will always be a certain type of chronically lonely individual who is afraid of real-life women. Moreoever, I've met people (both male & female) who, deep down, prefer electronic relationships to flesh-and-blood ones, so I can see why something like Suicide Girls would be so popular.
I don't buy that last part. I'd imagine that one of the big selling points for girls who get featured on the site is that they get to post little blog entries and talk about their interests.
I'm actually undecided as to whether the girls are actually who they present themselves as, or if there's a staff whose job it is to write this stuff. The latter is more of a cynical, knee-jerk thought.
I dunno, anyone here met a Suicide Girl in the flesh?
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:42 (twenty years ago)
I'm baffled by the sudden popularity of the ironic burlesque show. It seems like a cop-out, the sort of thing that attracts hipster guys who are afraid to blow their indie cred by being seen at (or, more likely, being scene coming out of), an honest-to-God strip joint.
That's not a shot at you, everything, I just don't get the phenomenon.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:48 (twenty years ago)
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:54 (twenty years ago)
As to not having the balls to go to a real strip joint, I don't think that's really an issue in this city. EVERYONE here goes to strip joints all the time. THe beer is cheap, some other bars aren't open for lunchtime. Plus there are not that many pubs in this city anyway, so sometimes there are two strip joints closer than the nearest pub. Local bands here play the strip joints from time to time since they usually have great stages and atmosphere.
That said, the burlesque format is pretty stale now.
― everything, Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:06 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:11 (twenty years ago)
OTM!
― big chaki (chaki), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:12 (twenty years ago)
Exploitation? Give me a break. No one's making them do it. In fact, they're lining up to do it. Am I supposed to feel bad because the women supposedly have low self esteem? Shit, join the fucking club.
This thread reminds me of college where a guy shows his sensitive side, talks his feminist-man rap...right before offering girl in question a sensitive man non sexual back rub.
― shookout (shookout), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:27 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Twice, Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:37 (twenty years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:45 (twenty years ago)
Since when does trying to have a semi-serious discussion about porn equal prudery?
Sigh. Go back upthread and read my original question. I was asking what made the Suicide Girls different from other porn sites, because it seems to position itself as being less exploitative than other porn sites. For the record, I like me some porn just fine (so does my girlfriend, for that matter), and I've seen the inside of more than one strip joint. To me liking porn is kind of like masturbation - nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to particularly proud of either (copyright Matt Groening). (Coincidence? I think not.)
Guys who pull that sort of shit need a lapdance.. followed by a kick in the balls.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Saturday, 2 October 2004 19:20 (twenty years ago)
No, you're clearly supposed to enjoy the photos for their artistic merit. Really.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 2 October 2004 19:28 (twenty years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Saturday, 2 October 2004 20:34 (twenty years ago)
Read my posts again. Nowhere did I say I didn't enjoy nudity. In fact I said EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. Furthermore, I've been to the Suicide Girls website for the EXRESS PURPOSE OF CHECKING OUT SAID GIRLS. I was wondering aloud as to whether the site was worth the paid subscription.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 2 October 2004 20:45 (twenty years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Saturday, 2 October 2004 20:49 (twenty years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Saturday, 2 October 2004 20:53 (twenty years ago)
― mikef (mfleming), Saturday, 2 October 2004 20:54 (twenty years ago)
-- Tantrum The Cat (tantrumtheca...), October 2nd, 2004.
yes, i know one of them. (although i knew her before she got onto that site) we're not really friends anymore, though - i criticized a piece that she wrote about my band and she apparently took offense to that and won't talk to me anymore. whatever, it was really piss-poor & inaccurate writing. i'm pretty sure that mikef is OTM, as they say in ilx-ville.
― 6335, Saturday, 2 October 2004 21:20 (twenty years ago)
Ah, OK. No harm done.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 2 October 2004 22:42 (twenty years ago)
But now I regret that I apparently I'm the chance to go "Whoa, dude. Hip naked chicks."
But really, you think you'd see more of this. There have to be throngs of niche nekkid chick genres waiting to be exploited. [fill in your music genre and attaire] naked chicks, geeky naked chicks, boring naked chicks, funny naked chicks, sports naked chicks, literature loving naked chicks, outdoorsy naked chicks, etc., etc., etc. I mean for every interest you could have a pr0n site. There my friends lie an internet cash cow. Then again it may all be happening right now and I'm missing it all 'cause I'm not looking at the ads. Fooey!
― Mike Salmo (salmo), Saturday, 2 October 2004 23:12 (twenty years ago)
I heard the above from a girl who said she tried out and wasn't accepted. She had a long, humorous rant about not getting accepted, actually.
― mikef (mfleming), Saturday, 2 October 2004 23:33 (twenty years ago)
she is pretty gothish i do admit.
― todd swiss (eliti), Saturday, 2 October 2004 23:36 (twenty years ago)
BUT NOT BY READING DUMB SHIT BY FAGGETS
― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Saturday, 2 October 2004 23:39 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 2 October 2004 23:41 (twenty years ago)
― todd swiss (eliti), Sunday, 3 October 2004 00:26 (twenty years ago)
― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Sunday, 3 October 2004 00:27 (twenty years ago)
It's very unhealthy for women to be comfortable with their sexuality. Men need to protect them from careers in pornography.
Haha yes. Tut-tutting about the sex industry is quite prudish and also possibly a little dishonest.
There have to be throngs of niche nekkid chick genres waiting to be exploited. [fill in your music genre and attaire] naked chicks, geeky naked chicks, boring naked chicks, funny naked chicks, sports naked chicks, literature loving naked chicks, outdoorsy naked chicks, etc., etc., etc. I mean for every interest you could have a pr0n site.
A friend of mine even found a chicks-who-wear-headphones site. He was thrilled.
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 3 October 2004 01:03 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 October 2004 02:10 (twenty years ago)