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sorry if this has been done before.. "ze" give's a million unrelated results in search. any general info as well would be good.

snd, Tuesday, 17 February 2004 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.zerecords.com/


you need the aural exciters. now!

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

haha! search - everything they ever released!

stirmonster to thread!

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

What acts were on Ze, anyhow? The only ones I know of were James Chance/White, Lydia Lunch and Kid Creole.

Myonga Von Bontee, Tuesday, 17 February 2004 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

check out the website. it's very informative. and cool too.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

aural exciters! don armando's second avenue rhumba band! kid creole! why is august darnell not LEGENDARY?

jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

he is!

mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

like the chippawa, iroquis, omaha - like those indians - im an indian too!

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jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Coati Mundi! Best thing they ever released...

Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

a great place to start would be the 2cd Mutant Disco comp. it has a track or more from most of the top names: Was (not Was), Material, Kid Creole, Cristina, James White, Garçons, Lizzy Mercier Descloux, Aural Exciters, etc

JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

ha jed! great picture. i think 'i am an indian too' is my ultimate guilty pleasure record. just about the only time i ever dance these days is when i put that on in my living room.

anyway - ze - search - pretty much the whole lot.

it's a very schizo label (which is why i love it). half no wave, half disco / mutant disco / camp pop etc.

on the no wave side, my essential picks are

contortions - buy. buy it - it's a masterpiece!

james white and the blacks - contort yourself 12". thee best punk funk record of all time with a super disco drums production by august darnell. the rapture filched the beat for 'house of jealous lovers'.

james white and the blacks - off white. ze gave mr. chance some money to record a disco album and this is what he delivered. if albert ayler played disco.....

james white's flaming demonics - worth it for the super louche 'i danced with a zombie' and his monstrous fucking up of duke ellington's 'caravan'

lizzy mercier descloux - press colour. disco punk funk jazz. 'wawa' is up there with 'contort yourself' while her covers of 'mission impossible' and arthur brown's 'fire' are mutant disco at it's very best. my top moment however is 'tumour' her cover of 'fever'. cheeky, irreverent, groovy and scarily prescient as ms. descloux is currently very ill with cancer.

arto / netto - pini pini 12". if you like dna, this will make you come. arto's guitar here is as much the blueprint for steve albini's later sound as gang of four. the record consists of drum machine hi hats, guitar and netto's surreal poetry over the top. it is insane. it is to die for!

alan vega (ok, so he's not no wave but he freaking rules) - collision drive. this album freaking rules - he does a straight rock n' roll version of 'ghost riders' which is immense and the 13 minute 'viet vet' is as harrowing and as good as 'frankie teardrop'. every track is a killer.

alan vega - jukebox baby 12". i think this was a massive hit in france. the french are clearly a nation with good taste as this should have been a hit everywhere.

alan vega - saturn strip. if yr a vega, ric ocasek or a synth pop era ministry fan then you'll love this (ocasek and ministry produced it). i'm all three so it couldn't really fail. one of the few great synth pop albums with a rollicking cover of hot chocolate's 'every one's a winner'.

suicide - alan vega / martin rev. oft ignored classic second suicie lp produced by ocasek.

suicide - dream baby dream 12" - one of my favourite singles of all time. total pop perfection. the b-side 'radiation' sounds like it was produced by maurizio!

mars - 3e 12".

teenage jesus and the jerks - pre 12"

lydia lunch - queen of siam. i love lydia. she's how i first got into ze. this album is a masterpiece. honestly, forget yr lunch preconceptions, it is fantastic. half of it is no wave disco - 'atomic bongos' is a dancefloor destroyer but the real treat is the half of the lp that i'm surprised david lynch hasn't used in one of his soundtracks. orchestrated by the guy who did the flintstones theme and with guitar by robert quine, these are beautiful acid torch songs. 'lady scarface' a cover of 'spooky' and 'gloomy sunday' will make you swoon.

i need to sleep now so i'll do the mutant disco picks later.

as noted up above, ze is back with a wonderful website and a great reissue programme. they have signed one new act so far, a glasgow four piece (3 girls and a guy) called michael dracula. they are kind of turbo no wave pop.

some loser recently did a cover of 'contort yourself' which was the first new release on the reactivated label. someone should really give him a big spanking for messing with such a sacred song!

stirmonster, Tuesday, 17 February 2004 05:24 (twenty-one years ago)

In addition to all the mostly bitchin stuff up there, wasn't John Cale's 'Music for a New Society' on Ze? Mine says it is. One of my fav records ever.

Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 05:28 (twenty-one years ago)

hmm yeah i've a few of those bit's n pieces.. i don't pay much attention to what labels stuff is on though so hadn't really put em together before...

suicide are a big fave of mine, especially

snd, Tuesday, 17 February 2004 05:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Mundi's Me No Pop I 12" on Ze is great, as is his single on Virgin, Como Esta Usted.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)

och well, i couldn't sleep so here's the mutant disco picks.

various - mutant disco - originally a triple 12" box set and then later an lp, this has songs from was (not was), material, kid creole, cotai mundi. 'wheel me out' by was (not was) and 'busting out' by material still destroy dancefloors to this day.

aural exciters - spooks in space bob blank's supergroup featuring lizzy mercier descloux, james chance, taana gardener, lydia lunch, pat place, august darnell and cotai mundi. this lp is thee definition of mutant disco. the song 'spooks in space' is a perfect example of the camp pop aesthetic that ze did so well while emile (night rate) is massive attack twenty years before they existed.

aural exciters - my boy lollipop 12" - as preposterous as you can possibly imagine.

aural exciters - spooks in space 7" on spooky glow in the dark vinyl. whoo!

garcons - bop electronique 7" - the first record ever to use a 909 drum machine? slow and low quirky electropop sung in french. every electroca$h pretender should hear this and give up.


cristina - 'drive my car 7" - disco pop beatles cover. you'll either love it or hate it.

cristina - is that all there is? 7"/12". an absolute masterpiece and the best end of the night club record ever recorded. a cover of a leiber and stoller / peggy lee song, this is extremely rare as leiber and stoller freaked when they heard the changes cristina had made to the words and demanded it be withdrawn. cristina was michael zilkha's wife. zilkha (now a billionaire energy magnate) was the z in ze. anyway, cristina, apart from being stunningly beautiful was also a theatre critic / writer renowned for her savage wit and fierce intellect. her reworking and delivery of the words is total genius, savagely bitter, very funny and ultra sexy. i actually prefer the shorter 7" version but either is an essential listen.

don armando's 2nd ave rhumba band - i am an indian too 12" - produced by cotai mondi and with fonda rae on vocals. this is the b-side to 'deputy of love' and is one of the most gloriously camp records of all time. a cover of the irving berlin song from 'annie get your gun' (which doesn't actually feature in the musical anymore due to crazed political correctness), it is a devilishly stoopid disco delight that could only have come out on ze.

gichy dan - cowboys and gangsters 12". kind of reminiscent of don armando and possibly even more camp if such a thing is possible.


i'm sure i've forgotten a few things worthy of note, but, hey, it's late. i never really investigated too much was (not was) or kid creole, perhaps because as a kid they were always on top of the pops and back then i stupidly regarded pop as the enemy. anyway, someone else is probably better equipped to do a search and destroy on these acts who probably sold more record search than the whole rest of the roster combined. you should check out the basquait film 'downtown 81'. the acting is so appalling that it is great but the real treat is the footage of various acts performing (the dna studio footage in particular). anyway, there's film of kid creole and the coconuts doing 'me no pop i' in concert and they look like the most fun live band of all time. THAT is what scissor sisters must dream of wanting to be like.

there is going to be a ze edits compilation later this year where various hipster producers will take their fave ze moment and re edit it.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 17 February 2004 06:26 (twenty-one years ago)

er, excuse my dyselexia - it's coati mundi.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 17 February 2004 06:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Ze records, but just for a timy boit of balance I'm going to weigh in with a D: I bought a Davitt Sigerson LP "Falling In Love Again", I think) and it's really not very good, and I was disappointed because I adore "It's A Big Country" off the Xmas record.

Stirmonster, do you know whether this Davitt Sigerson is the same fellow as seems to have made at least one record under the name "The Disco Dub Band"? It's an odd record: released on Island / Movers, saying "A Division of Rockers Records" (can it have something to do with Augustus Pablo? Surely not...?) and listing a Dorane on the label who I assume is Mike Dorane, UK-based journalist writing for the rather excellent "Black Music" amongst others, the producer is down as Davitt / Sigerson. The sound is very proto-Ze. I'd never heard of it until riffling through an old box of my brother's 7" singles the other night.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Stirmonster OTM with Cristina's "Is That All There Is?" - she also made the best Christmas record ever: "Things Fall Apart".

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

someone should really give him a big spanking for messing with such a sacred song!

Dear s(t)ir,

Please do not talk aboot yr S&M predilections in public, it's very unbecoming.

Vic Funk, Tuesday, 17 February 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Lizzy Mercier Descloux's second LP "Mambo Nassau" is ASTOUNDINGLY GOOD. Just been reissued by Ze so I've only just heard it for the first time myself. WHY ISN'T THIS IN THE CANON? Trust me, it's fantastic.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 17 February 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i've not heard 'mambo nassau' - i'll try and pick up the reissue.

and tim, i've not heard the davitt sigerson but i have heard it's a stinker. ze certainly put out a few awful records too.

other great releases i forgot are the ze christmas record and the waitresses 'that's what boys like'.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 17 February 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

the waitresses 'that's what boys like'.

love that

snd, Tuesday, 17 February 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
ZE's reissuing the first couple of Was (Not Was) albums sometime soon here. I can't wait to pick those up.

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Monday, 26 April 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, what's the tracklist on the original Mutant Disco LP from like '81 or whenenver. It seems to have the exact same tracklist as another ZE comp I have from that time period, SeiZE the Beat, which has "Bustin' Out," "Wheel Me Out" and "Drive My Car" on side A and "Me No Pop I," "Deputy of Love," and "Cowboys & Gangsters" on the other.

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Monday, 26 April 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

The Was (Not Was) albums are already out Mike :)

If you are in the US you can get 'em at Forced Exposure....

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

"Lizzy Mercier Descloux passed away at 5:30 Am, April 20 following a long battle with cancer. According to her wishes, she was cremated and her ashes scattered in the Mediterranean."

just heard about this today. so sad.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

If you are in the US you can get 'em at Forced Exposure....

or Tower Records

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 29 April 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

yet another recommendation for the Lizzy Mercier Descloux records -
all fans of Remain In Light, Chic, Gwen Guthrie / Larry Levan's Padlock & Tom Tom Club should head straight for Mambo Nassau.

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 29 April 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm really glad to see all this love for Mambo Nassau. It's really an incredible disc that I can't recommend enough.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 29 April 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
Who's this Lio character then? Ze's website says they're reissuing a load of her albums "soon," but I can't really find any useful info. Her entry on Ze's artists page is just a picture of her in her skivvies.

Telephonething, Saturday, 25 June 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

Anybody heard this?

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Zevolution-ZE-Records-Re-Edited/release/2026677

Bangelo, Monday, 30 November 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

i dig it! tho a lot of the edits have been around for quite a while, they're all really solid

psychgawsple, Monday, 30 November 2009 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

six years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCX33Rwk6SQ&feature=youtu.be

scott seward, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 21:05 (nine years ago)

^^^ with Jody Harris, great!

I took the kids to Universal Studios Orlando over the holidays and heard The Waitresses' "Christmas Wrapping" not once but twice around the grounds. It was merry!

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 22:03 (nine years ago)


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