Cradle of Filth: C or D?

SEARCH: Their remarkably offensive "JESUS IS A CUNT" t-shirt campaign if only for the sheer blasphemous hilarity of it.

DESTROY: The band's actual music.

I personally favour the really gritty stuff anyway ("Transylvanian Hunger" by Darkthrone would be my absolute fave, that should give you an idea) when it comes to Black Metal, and have no interest in CoF whatsoever. It's gotta be inhumanly fast grinding non-stop (Immortal, Marduk) or just really crass-sounding (Darkthrone, Burzum) for me to enjoy it. I mean, if I feel like getting my ears reduced to mashed potatoes, Cradle of Filth does not cut it.

I like (some oldtime) goth, but gothy Black Metal with too much high- pitched female vocals is quite exasperating. The male vocals are just not *evil* enough as well. TOO gothic. Overdone. Overblown. Vampire shit. I don't like that. In Black Metal terms, the exact opposite of Darkthrone's garage (or rather unheated hut in the snowy woods...) and indistinguishable noise, which is closer to the amazing original 80s Bathory. My cup of tea.

Naturally, it heavily depends on what the listener is looking for when playing such music. En somme, the points that Tadeusz lists as good are exactly what I don't like!

I actually like CoF, or Bag Of Shite as I like to call them. Dani Davey's vocals rule like a mofo, and ex- drummer Nick Barker stormed like a bastard!

I say classic. I don't like music that mashes my brains like potatoes; I like music that is quite dramatic, and the description fits.

CoF fans = males: usually tall and thin, females: usually short and round.
Still: all black clothes = one wash!

Doesn't that match with Sisters, Cure, Siouxsie, Mish, Fields et al? Although when it comes to goth METAL, it is especially spot on. Metal chicks are yuck. Goth Black Metal chicks are yuckest.

But We Love Goths. Especially the few *really gothalicious* tall skinny pre-raphaelite vamp girls, though...

I have a copy of Cruelty and the Beast somewhere. I remember thinking it was decent but I've played it maybe twice. It sort of struck me as a metal Phantom of the Opera, which has its place. I play Century Black's Firestarter compilation a lot more frequently.

I scanned Transilvanian Hunger in a record store once. It sounded pretty good but I couldn't convince myself to pay $25 + tax. It had a good guitar sound but there wasn't a lot of variety in the vocals or from one song to the next.

Simon, do you recommend any Montreal metal bands? There seem to be a lot of shows.

Cradle of Filth frontman Dani Filth is currently 2,000 views ahead of his nearest competitor in a poll of Suffolk Icons led by Choose Suffolk. Broomhill Swimming Pool in Ipswich, a pint of Adnams, a Suffolk Punch and the Middy Train also feature at the top of the list. Tourism manager Alex Paul said that the submission of Dani as an “icon” showed that there was more to Suffolk than just natural beauty spots - “It’s about everyone’s voices being heard. It’s not about going for the obvious and people feel that Dani Filth is an icon and is as important to people as a pint of Adnams.”

A black-metal band that Goths could love. And a hella lot better than their Scandinavian black-metal counterparts, not least because they have a sense of humor and don't peddle third-hand neo-Nazi tripe.

This is the stupidest thing I've read about black metal in years.

I'm glad I didn't see it back in 2001

S: their first 2 albums
D: most of the rest.

I liked Cruelty and the Beast a lot, but it was also the first album of its type I bought. while I still have a soft spot for it, CoF never really elevated beyond "catchy little novelty" and their albums tended to bleed together.

Um....this is a thing that exists. In rebuttal to CoF's most (in)famous shirt:

jesus is not a cunt shirt https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MBCM3LM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_yRqMCbYVFCC9D