― Phil Ramone, Thursday, 19 February 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)
and don't be silly, its 10 for starters.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 19 February 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)
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― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 February 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 February 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)
if only... http://www.dancerinthedark.de/read_pierrot.html
I wish I could recommend one. I have a Boulez, it's in German. It's evidently imperative with sprechstimme to hear the piece in a language you understand, and it's hard to find recordings of the english version.
― (Jon L), Thursday, 19 February 2004 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)
yes there is a version by boulez but its not the one I have (can't recall right now). its also in german.
I didn't know there were recordings with the english version.
thanks for the link milton.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 19 February 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― robin (robin), Thursday, 19 February 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― gas coin, Thursday, 19 February 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― simon 803 (simon 803), Thursday, 19 February 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― maypang (maypang), Thursday, 19 February 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 19 February 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― pete s, Thursday, 19 February 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 19 February 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― robin (robin), Friday, 20 February 2004 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)
and (obv.) beethoven's symphonies 3, 5, 6 - 9, concertos 4 & 5 and quartets op. 74, 95, 132
― j. pantsman (jpantsman), Friday, 20 February 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 20 February 2004 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)
there's a nice london/decca one with ashkenazy playing the solo piano version first, then conducting the ravel-arranged orchestral version
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 20 February 2004 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)
I have a bunch more suggestions, but no time now. Will check in again soon.
― Jody Rosen, Friday, 20 February 2004 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)
Mahler's 9th Symphony conducted by Otto Klemperer, with the New Philharmonia Orchestra - ascending heaven's ladder...
Pärt's "Tabula Rasa" for approachable contemporary classical that refuses to wallow in sentimentality, yet never fails to send a chill down your chair's spine
Shostakovich's symphonies and quartets for introverted drama in relatively accessible form
and Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" and lots lots more, of course
― you will be shot, Friday, 20 February 2004 05:05 (twenty-one years ago)
they're all orchestral, and i initially found them more accessible than some of the opera, music song and ensemble pieces.
― george gosset (gegoss), Friday, 20 February 2004 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)
though i would be keen to hear pierrot lunaire in english too, 'ode to napoleon' has too much historical baggage though a good example of sprechstimme used for effects like sarcasm and mock-pontification. I have never been quite sure how sarcastic S. was actually being (if at all) with Kol Nidre though. It's a genuinely religous thing i think, but i've always used it as a musical-comedy depiction of a witch-hunt.
― george gosset (gegoss), Friday, 20 February 2004 10:58 (twenty-one years ago)
I like some Boulez, a little Varese, the later serialist-Stravinsky, and a whole heap of American academic composers who followed up somewhat on these earlier characters (i guess Boulez was a follower too in some ways -- "Figures, Doubles, Prismes" is pleasantly self-explanatory).
Stockhausen is the most whacked of the big names, and my favourite of his is "Trans" because it's got lot's of musical theatre and heavy orchestra going on, (and because it might have influenced Neil Young in his most interesting venture) but mainly for its sturdy musical qualities.
Elliot Carter is one of those american scholars who may be more accessible too. He sometimes seems like the blotchy Jackson Pollock of orchestral music.
Xenakis is eclectic, all over the place, or at least not a follower in the tradition of any of the above. So are Conlon Nancarrow and Harry Partch. Partch uses his own form of sprechstimme and unique instrumentation as part of more musical theatre and a 20th century re-invention of opera for 20th centure people. Nancarrow and Partch each have a special quirkiness. At least Xenakis often used regular orchestral subsets (even if they were sometimes on electronic supplements).
― george gosset (gegoss), Friday, 20 February 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― george gosset (gegoss), Friday, 20 February 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 20 February 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)
Bach / Goldberg Variations / PerahiaBach / Cello Suites / RostopovichBartok / String Quartets / Takacs QtBrahms / Piano Trio No. 1 & String Sextet No. 1 / Casals et alBeethoven / Symphony No. 5 & 7 / Kleiber and BPOChopin / Nocturnes / Rubenstein ('60s recordings)Haydn / London Symphonies (two budget two-CD sets) / Davis and RCOMozart / Piano Concertos Nos. 18 and 20 / Richard Goode and OCOSchubert / Sonata No. 21 op. 960 / UchidaShostakovich / Symphony No. 10 / von Karajan and BPO
I like lots more 20th century stuff--Shosti and the other big Russians, Ives, the Vienna clique, Stravinsky--but given only 10 to start, these are all killer, no filler.
― Lee G (Lee G), Friday, 20 February 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)
I second Jody's rec. of Rostropovich Bach Cello Suites, he brings the most exuberance. Mahler's 9th i prefer Barbirolli or the classic Bruno Walter '39 performance (recorded in Vienna weeks before the Nazis moved in and banned Mahler's music). It's on Naxos or Dutton, Barbirolli on EMI.Mozart's Piano Concertos - save up for Murray Perahia's set on Sony , it can't be beat for the spontonaeity he exhibits in a studio. Beethoven's 9th is obv. another one no-one should be without, get Furtwangler's performance on EMI or Harnoncourt or Gardiner for more 'authentic' interpretations. For the Eroica get Klemperer's 1955 recording on EMI.
― pete s, Friday, 20 February 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 20 February 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curt (cgould), Friday, 20 February 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)