To what degree does Opeth rule?

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Opeth has become my favorite metal band due to their consitent shredding and prog-fag sensibility. And I hate Rush. These guys are so prog-metal that I don't know what. I think they rule. Anyone else?

scottontharox (scottkundla), Saturday, 21 February 2004 06:04 (twenty-two years ago)

wow. "Prog-fag".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 21 February 2004 06:07 (twenty-two years ago)

That term conjures the image in my head of Jon Anderson, flouncing about a leafy glade, earing nothing but his signature flowing white scarf.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 21 February 2004 06:08 (twenty-two years ago)

And a Coheed and Cambria wig *NEW HALLOWEEN COSTUME ALERT*

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Saturday, 21 February 2004 06:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it me or does that singer from Coheed and Cambria look somewhat like King Buzzo from the Melvins (the hair anyway)?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 21 February 2004 07:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Opeth in Chicago was pretty darn progged out, sometimes to the point of tedium but rarely boring. The show was particularly interesting for two unrelated reasons: the singer of the ass opening band, Devil Driver, actually heckled an audience member, who was standing with his back to the band the whole set. I'd never seen that before. And then later people starting heckling Devil Driver during *Opeth's* set, which I'd never seen before, either. The lead singer of Opeth had to defend Devil Driver in his clunky Swedish-accented English. "There are too many people treating the support band like shit. Devil Driver likes death metal just as much as any of us, so stop being assholes. Actually, Devil Driver is a lot heavier than the song we are going to play next."

Ah, metal politics played out in real time! Must be some feuding going on amongst fans.

Speaking of metal fans, if some dude in high school says he listens to metal these days, just which bands does he mean?

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Saturday, 21 February 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

That one band that's loud.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 February 2004 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

>>Opeth in Chicago was pretty darn progged out, sometimes to the point of tedium but rarely boring. The show was particularly interesting for two unrelated reasons: the singer of the ass opening band, Devil Driver, actually heckled an audience member, who was standing with his back to the band the whole set. I'd never seen that before. And then later people starting heckling Devil Driver during *Opeth's* set, which I'd never seen before, either. The lead singer of Opeth had to defend Devil Driver in his clunky Swedish-accented English. "There are too many people treating the support band like shit. Devil Driver likes death metal just as much as any of us, so stop being assholes. Actually, Devil Driver is a lot heavier than the song we are going to play next."<<

There were a bunch of people pissed at DevilDriver having been given that slot over Kataklysm (who were originally rewarded with it) because the lead singer of DD used to be in Coal Chamber. Honestly, if I had any interest in seeing Opeth, I'd probably have my back turned the whole show, while drinking a beer in the back of the crowd.

>>Ah, metal politics played out in real time! Must be some feuding going on amongst fans.<<

Politics of the scene really changed with Norweigan BM and the change over of hardcore basically becoming really bad toughguy SOD/DRI worship. There was a pretty vicious schizm in the fan base, and, well, here we are today.

>>Speaking of metal fans, if some dude in high school says he listens to metal these days, just which bands does he mean? <<

Not much or a lot. He could, in theory, be listening from anything between Blind Guardian, Disturbed, and Beherit.


Alan Conceicao, Saturday, 21 February 2004 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't hate Porcupine Tree at all, but when Steve Wilson sings on Opeth records, it almost ruins the whole thing for me. So although lots of people seem to think Blackwater Park rules the most, I find it frustrating. I guess I'm saying they kind of rule.

otto, Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I think "Still Life" is a much better album than "Blackwater Park". It also plays well back-to-back with Obituary's "World Demise".

scottontharox (scottkundla), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Since sorta putting Opeth down, I've listened to the song "Blackwater Park." That song pretty much nails what it means to rule.

otto, Saturday, 21 February 2004 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Still Life is good, but most of its highlights were rehashed, and made even better, on Deliverance.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 21 February 2004 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
So does the new Opeth album rule or not?

earlnash, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

One of my coworkers has almost as many Opeth shirts as I have Cure shirts. He's completely awesome.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

The new album totally fucking rules. It's their best one yet. I'd post a link to my review, but it won't be up until next Thursday.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

The Secret To The Degree To Which Opeth Rule.

PE = Please Eliminate.

Opeth - PE = OTH

Oth = Zeroth

The rule to the Zeroth degree.

Heave Dufus, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
"...this is simply too awe-inspiring for the competition to handle, custom-built to amaze and delight 20 years from now the very definition of a classic album. Best band on the planet? Best album ever? A resounding 'yes' to both." -- Kerrang!

Wow, talk about hyperbole! But whatever, it's Kerrang. I really, really like this album though. It keeps me interested on repeated listens more so than Deliverance or Blackwater Park. Still letting it sink in.

More reviews here from Terrorizer, Classic Rock, Rock Sound, etc.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

It's pretty good. I'm also still letting it sink in. Initial reaction was not quite as good as Deliverance or Blackwater Park (which are both superb), but that could change.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...
Months later and after cashing in a gift certificate, I can declare affirmative that the current Opeth release does rule.

Parts of the record seem a bit more 70s prog than even Damnation. "Beneath the Mire" has a bit of "Kashmir" in the groove probably aided by the mellotron sounds. It also hit me while listening to Ghost Reveries that Mikael Akerfeldt's nice singing voice timbre is a bit similar to Greg Lake.

earlnash, Monday, 9 January 2006 04:23 (twenty years ago)

Mikael's voice is on a par with Lake's. good call. both lovely.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 January 2006 04:29 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Akerfeldt's voice has never sounded better than on the new album. Love the warmer production.

"Beneath the Mire" has a bit of "Kashmir" in the groove probably aided by the mellotron sounds.

Younger Opeth fans keep comparing the song to Canadian hacks The Tea Party, which bugs the hell out of me.

a. begrand (a begrand), Monday, 9 January 2006 05:20 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...
Sorry guys, I just have to disagree. Whilst Ghost Reveries is fucking incredible, you just can't put you finger on a best Opeth album. They are all as good, and as different, as each other.

I saw them live a few weeks back in Australia, and they ruled so fucking much, my god. Damn. They rule.

Joe Ritson, Friday, 19 May 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

"some of the greatest artists ever are bland"

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 19 May 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

haha Siegbran, low blow

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

I tried very hard to get into the band but they always bored the shit out of me.

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

I only have Morningrise, which I hate -- gothy prog metal + emo lyrics is a bad combination.

a.b. (alanbanana), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

this thread is going to join the dave matthews and arctic monkeys threads on google results for "some of the greatest ever are bland". that's awesome.

i saw opeth in la last month. some of it was great and some of it had me thinking a) there's nobody here i want to sleep with, and b) i wish i were seeing katatonia.

dan (dan), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure they're awesome live - album-wise, I feel like they're one of those bands who thrill once & give diminishing returns. I love Blackwater Park - or like it a lot, anyway - but everything since has seemed less vital to me. They share space with Katatonia for me, only they're a bit longer-winded.

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

opeth rules so much that blackwater park just RUINED MY SHITTY COMPUTER SPEAKERS

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

wtf opeth

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

wtf

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

It actually blew your speakers?

roxymuzak, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

i think so yeah

like everything is fuzzy now

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

and i only had the volume knob halfway

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

the opeth song sounded perfect, then i played something else and :(

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

ah, well. they came with the computer anyway, they were cheapies. this gives me an excuse to get better ones.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

frustrating that this happens as soon as i have the ability to digitize vinyl though.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

so i have it on good authority watershed rules. i haven't heard it yet though. has anyone here?

kamerad, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 04:28 (seventeen years ago)

It does indeed rule. They just keep evolving, this time the keyboards sound more integrated with that Opeth sound more than ever before. No longer window dressing. "Hessian Peel", "Lotus Eaters", and "Heir Apparent" are especially thrilling. Akerfeldt is so skilled at epic metal dynamics now, that he can toss in 30 seconds of Miles Davis funk into a song snd manage to make it sound logical.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 04:37 (seventeen years ago)

awesome. are there any damnation-style acoustic songs? i could use a few more of those

kamerad, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 04:43 (seventeen years ago)

The album has the most acoustic stuff since Damnation (The three minute "Coil" is something you have to hear), but on a largely acoustic longer track like "Hessian Peel", there are the occasional bursts of the heavy stuff. Everything gels better than ever before, in my opinion, the acoustic-versus-electric combination is less oil-and-water. If that makes sense.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 04:58 (seventeen years ago)

totally makes sense. can't wait to hear it

kamerad, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 05:15 (seventeen years ago)

eight years pass...

"drag ropes" on the storm corrosion album rules 1001° Centigrades on the late spring jam scale

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 17:17 (nine years ago)


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