80's: New Renaisance or Over Hyped Dross

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This is a question that we've all asked of ourselves while sitting on the balcony staring into the dark void. The 80's where "the fashion smiled, the music smiled, and the people smiled". The 80's where the dark shadow of the cold war birthed a golden age of pop culture. The 80's a time when everyone knew the number one song, thesps were leaders, and hair was big.

I for one mark, fold, and pop my ballot in the bin marked "Greatest decade since the sixties".

Francisco Solano Lopez, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

The people smiled? Depends on who you asked I guess.

Just a few years ago it was pretty much lumped in with the 70s as a decade of kitschy pop and bad haircuts. So what happened?

LondonLee (LondonLee), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

The people who grew up in it now control the media.

Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

hurrah!

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think you can sum up the decade with any single catchphrase, given that musically-speaking the 80's birthed everything from MC Hammer through the Butthole Surfers. Be that as it may, it remains my favorite decade for music, but given that I "came of age" during it's span, that's not entirely surprising. It certainly was more promising than both the 80's and the 00's combined, but that's just my take on it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

whoops, I told ya I'm getting old. That shoulda been: It certainly was more promising than both the 90's and the 00's combined...blah blah blah. Time for my Geritol, then.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

The people who grew up in it now control the media.

and the people who aren't old enough to remember it the first time round are buying into the myth that the era was a pleasant one.

there is plenty to be found in the revival, even for those of us that didn't enjoy it. i look forward to seeing the reappearance of the likes of strawberry switchblade and err...

err...

well, THE SMITHS might re-form, but that might not be a good thing. the memory is probably better. same goes for the fieldmice. and the pastels never went away.

generally, though, i will greet anyone trying to claim the decade as some sort of golden age with a tut, a sigh, and a flick of my exquisitely-coiffured blow-dried and brylcreemed wig.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh please. The Smiths will never re-form, or at least not with the original members. Have you forgotten the "devious & trucculent" court episodes already?

Meanwhile, Mike Joyce has already sold off all his old equipment to finance his penchant for smack.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

the media would have you belive it was all duran duran/FGTH and crap mobile phones. but i experienced a different 80's. foetus/on-u sound/cabaret voltaire/age of chance/public enemy/j&mc - and the repurcussions rattle on to this day. fucking top decade. despite all the hyped dross.

mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm also biased in favour of the 80s. I was still pretty young then (i'm 26 now), but I guess music made much more of an impression on me than it did later on. The 70s don't do much for me, as I was hardly around then, while the 90s don't have that nostalgia to them that the 80s have for me...

Rudolf (Rudolf), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

It seems to me, and maybe I'm just being selectively revisionist, that there were more actual sea-changes, musically-speaking, than there have been in the ensuing decades, with more interesting sub-genres sprouting all the time.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh please. The Smiths will never re-form, or at least not with the original members. Have you forgotten the "devious & trucculent" court episodes already?

no, they really, really won't. it was just a flight of fancy. i suspect the results would be poor even if they did. although some bands seem to be able to channel hatred into something good (mamas and papas, later beatles, later smiths for that matter) and they certainly wouldn't be short of any of that.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

1980-84 was pretty much classic and a 'golden age' for pop music if ever there was one. After that I just remember losing any interest in pop music and not even my 11-year old self could stomach Jason Donovan and Bros. I remember talking to friends and banging on about how much I despised the 80's when I was a teenager in the 90's. My attitudes totally changed now esp. since posting to ILM.

Michael B, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't believe in the 80s as a whole can be characterised in any way. There are three distinct periods:
1978-1982
1983-1987
1988-1991

Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

"and the people who aren't old enough to remember it the first time round are buying into the myth that the era was a pleasant one."

Well it had it's moments but, yes, these revivals are always spurred on by people who aren't quite old enough to remember it properly, or at least were still at school so look back on those times with innocent fondness without thinking of things like the economics or politics of the era.

When I saw kids wearing flares in the 90s I thought no one who was actually old enough to to remember wearing them in the 70s would ever go back to them - too many bad memories of muddy hems and getting them caught in the spokes of your bike wheels (or having to stuff them in your socks to avoid that and looking even more ridiculous).

Bloody kids. A good spell in the Army should sort them out.

LondonLee (LondonLee), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

When I saw kids wearing flares in the 90s I thought no one who was actually old enough to to remember wearing them in the 70s would ever go back to them - too many bad memories of muddy hems and getting them caught in the spokes of your bike wheels

whereas i was one of those irritating kids going 'fuck you, oldster, the 70s were COOL!!! where's me tank-top??'

now, i am on the other side. one of those resentful wrinklies who tremble at the very mention of turn-ups.

most of my recollection of mainstream culture of the time is coloured by the fact that it was a horrible period of my life. its hard to ever completely separate the music and the emotions you were feeling at the time, particularly when they were that strong.

i could probably appreciate more eclectic music that i didn't get to hear first time round and so can view from an unbiased perspective (leaving aside all my other biases, that is).

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

The 70s were cool, but I was a just a kid so I thought the power cuts were lots of fun.

LondonLee (LondonLee), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I consider myself a huge '80s music fanatic, but I will concede that the '80s music I most adore and most often think of was the music from approx. 1980 - 1984, maybe 1985. From there on out the only '80s music I seem to really gravitate towards is music considered "modern rock", i.e. the "alternative music" pioneers.

I used to be a bigger '80s fetishist than I am today. I used to daydream about being transported to this mythical World Of The Eighties, where everything was like a John Hughes film, from the fashions to the high school life to the music to the people. I would fantasize about actually getting to see my Favorite Musical Artist get heavy airplay on MTV, purchase books and magazines about them from regular bookstores, and go to one of their massive arena concerts. I wished I could find '80s-style fashions in regular stores and I wished I knew how to style my hair and put on makeup in an "'80s style". If I had seen something like what's going on at the present moment happen when I was in high school, I would've constantly floated on a cloud of blissful contentment. Even without being as huge an '80s fanatic, the whole '80s revival thing puts a smile on my face.

(mark e, FYI, it's funny that you mention, *ahem*, Duran Duran in your post. In my own eyes, the eyes of a second generation fangirl whose first exposure to this band was actually in 1991, this band has hardly been mainstream. I didn't grow up listening to their music on the radio -- in fact, until about 1999, I could count on one hand the number of times I heard their music on the radio. I still haven't heard more than maybe four or five of the band's songs on the radio. Plus, the "new music" I've been able to witness firsthand has always been a couple of steps to the side of the mainstream.)

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)

The '80s were the decade of pop sophistication. To me this peaked with "West End Girls" and went downhill from there. Another remarkable thing about the '80s is that artists were not afraid to look wierd or
"gay". I celebrate that. Don't you think that the '90s were just too "stright"?

daavid (daavid), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 01:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I meant "straight"

daavid (daavid), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)


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