Something I find interesting is that this form of feature packed release is usually very canon related, but Rhino have decided to release "Diana", "Bad Girls", & "Street Songs" as well as the usual suspects of Marvin Gaye & the Who (this should have been a band). All of these releases are easily defendable, but hardly Rolling Stone/Q/Spin top 100 album of all time albums.
So I'm curous about 2 things: a) Your opinion about the new canon Rhino is proposing (and it's these kind of lavish/DVD style releases that force critics to pay attention), & b) What albums would you like to see given the deluxe treatment?
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 04:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― paul c (paul c), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 04:50 (twenty-two years ago)
should of course read
the second disc of remixes isNT half bad either.
― paul c (paul c), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 05:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 05:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 05:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Roger in Mokum (Roger T), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 05:42 (twenty-two years ago)
Great:My Gen - WhoBuckley - Sin'eWho's Next - the Kinks (not really)
not:VU+NicoGrease (extra disc = megamix, more incidental music, and another megamix. There was a 'radio friendly' Greased Lightning back in 77, and the film version has a number of different lines. (Blame my kids for my knowledge here)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 09:37 (twenty-two years ago)
I agree w/ the Jeff Buckley one, too.
― christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 10:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 10:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 10:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)
the who, live at leedsjames brown, live at the apollo vol 2diana ross, dianajeff buckley, live at sin emarvin gaye, what's going on
― stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 11:05 (twenty-two years ago)
(I am in CD reissue heaven at the moment btw, what with all the above + ZE coming back + the SoulJazz reissue programme + Altered Images reissues + all the LTM stuff...)
― Jeff W (zebedee), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 12:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― piscesboy, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)
anyway, i recently was given the A Love Supreme deluxe edition and it's really quite good. the second cd is just a live set, but to my knowledge is the first time the entire suite from that album has been officially released in a live form, and live recordings of coltrane are always appreciated. so add that to the "good" list.
― umop apisdn, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― umop apisdn (umop apisdn), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.universalchronicles.com/catalog.asp?cattype=3
Anyone have the Bob Marley deluxe editions? Are they worth having?
― Jonathan (Jonathan), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)
My short-list:Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica (actually pretty much all the bonus material from TMR you could want is on the "Grow Fins" box - but the album still desperately needs re-mastering)Captain Beefheart - Lick My Decals Off Baby (just to have it available at all would be a plus!)Captain Beefheart - Clear SpotCaptain Beefheart - The Spotlight Kid
A couple of nice big boxsets of rarities and unreleased material by Prefab Sprout and Tom Waits wouldn't go amiss either.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)
I reckon the Velvets one would've been better served if they'd nixed the mono mix of the album and the solo Nico stuff, and put some live material on it. There's obviously stuff like this in the vaults, like that "Melody Laughter" track from the box set.
― Hayden Nicholls (Pop the Weasel), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)
Nothing it looks like, I must have just presumed it was Rhino doing these.
In the what would I want to see released as a "Deluxe Edition"a) Prince - Purple RainDisc 1: Purple Rain remastered + outtakes (of which there are numerous high quality ones available.Disc 2: Purple Rain B Sides & Extended Mixes + Single Mixes if room is available.Disc 3: Live at First Avenue 1983: Besides being a great live performance, the concert is noted for three things 1) Debut of Wendy on guitar, 2) Debut of Purple Rain songs, & 3) "I Would Die 4 U, Baby I'm A Star, & Purple Rain" tracks on the Purple Rain album come from these performances (with editing & overdubbing).
If I was going for a great album, that such a Deluxe Edition would help push into the canon (Purple Rain hardly needs any help), I would go for Hall & Oates - Private Eyes. I know Hall & Oates definetly have some good 12" versions that could go on.
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)
Rhino have certainly been responsible for some such items - several Elvis Costello titles leap to mind.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Hayden Nicholls (Pop the Weasel), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― mzui, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Specktor (M Specktor), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)
the original edit of Exposure, not the frustrating shorter version which trims the guitar solos, speech cut-ups & ambient sections. the original version never made it to CD. would pay again for that.
― (Jon L), Thursday, 26 February 2004 00:12 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDSUB020402250946281211&sql=Bcgen97ykkr5t
Basically they were a female vocal group headed by Sly's sister. Sly also wrote and produced the two seongs they recorded: "Somebody's Watching You", and "You're The One (Part 1 & 2)".
Both songs were recorded in 1970 and give incite into what "Riot" would have sounded like without tape problems. "You're the one" is most commonly come across as only part 1, but there are copies of the 5 minute version floating around on P2P.
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Thursday, 26 February 2004 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)
Seconded
― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 26 February 2004 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)
But that was 'pre' Deluxe edition city.
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― mentalist (mentalist), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)
The My Generation edition is fantastic, as it's such a great, great record, but couldn't they have squeezed in the mono mix of the original album as well?
Does anyone have the Disreali Gears de-luxe set?
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)
The only time Keith Moon gets duff on "Won't get fooled again". Possibly as he'd only played it a few times by then.
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)
also the dvd stuff in with it is tops. the field at glastonbury looks half empty. it's really weird, cause *god* knows who was on the main stage at the time, but what were they all thinking?!! richey looks *fantastic*. has to be said i was stood at the back waiting for the rain to go off. i wasnt a big MSP fan then. seems like yesterday.
£12 99 in MUSIC ZONE.
― piscesboy, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)
The Young Vic recording is interesting because they seemingly don't really know what they're doing. PT actually orders someone to stop dancing because it's putting him off. I think it's worth having, but I haven't really listened to it very much, if truth be told.
And I think the sleevenotes are exactly the same too.
― Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)
I honestly can't hear the difference. There's a bit of keyboard low down in the mix on some of the songs, and the drums are a bit more fierce on a couple more. And the guitars on 'Yes' phase in and out a bit, but other than that... nothing.
If anyone's got a link which provides the differences between the two versions, please share it here.
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― piscesboy, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shooz (shooz), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)
Can't supply a link but there was a post in one of the bigger manics forums that did a whole breakdown of the differences. The list is vast.
I managed to snag an unwanted original copy of the Canadian issue (if i'm correct, it was never actually released in the US as such) from a friend I lived with when I first moved to Toronto from the UK. I believe it was only available in this mix during it's initial pressing, and subsequent repressings have been of the 'worldwide' mix variety.
I wonder if given the deluxe treatment it now has, the value of the original will still hold true. It does have different art work (kinda) after all.
― Shooz (shooz), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)
-- (milto...), February 25th, 2004.
This has indeed been issued as a Deluxe Edition, just as described, yes?
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Sunday, 4 June 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)
I was under the impression (from a variety of reviews and complaints) that the Live at Leeds Deluxe Edition sounded terrible, and people were very unhappy with it. Is this not the case?
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 4 June 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 4 June 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)
Our Favourite Shop [Deluxe Edition] The Style Council (Artist) Our Price: £13.99
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Restart press.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 5 June 2006 06:43 (nineteen years ago)
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 5 June 2006 07:45 (nineteen years ago)
are you sure about that? i'm almost positive it's the unedited version. but yeah, fucking phenomenal reissue.
― Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)
there are a few duff moments, like "bargain" or "too much of anything" where they're still finding their way through the songs. these shows were essentially open rehearsals (free admission, little public notice, etc.). but there are frequent moments ("love ain't for keeping," "time is passing," among others) that are as good or better than leeds.
― Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)
It is fun to get re-acquainted with an album with all the bonus goodies and liner notes, such as Lloyd Cole & the Commotions - Rattlesnakes, Joe Jackson - Night And Day, Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies, Depeche Mode - Speak & Spell, The Glove, Siouxsie - The Scream, and The Cars first album. They screwed up Patti Smith - Horses because it's missing the "Piss Factory"/"Hey Joe" single. Also, could have used live performances from that era, not a recent one.
This just came out:
Sublime (Universal) Aug 15, which includes some Marley and Bad Brains covers. I've never really listened to them, as I thought they were part of the mall punk brigade. Was I wrong?
I see The Pretenders' debut is slated for an October 3 release on Rhino. I hope it has lots of goodies.
I second the Beefheart and Sly Stone suggestions. That Purple Rain would be juicy too.
I nominate:
Van Morrison * Astral Weeks (WB) 68There are outtakes that Van didn't think fit the album -- some more bluesy stuff. Maybe a live performance from that year too.
The Beatles * Revolver (Capitol) 66 One can dream, right? With all the singles from that era.
Hüsker Dü * Zen Arcade (SST) 84Must at least add "Eight Miles High." And a remaster is badly needed.
The Feelies * Crazy Rhythms (Stiff/Line/A&M) 80There are tons of covers they've done that could be included.
Sonic Youth * Daydream Nation (Enigma) 88Rumor has it a triple disc version is coming this fall (anyone knoew more exact info?). It's about time. It's even been added to the National Recording Registry of the Library of Congress, joining 'Twinkle Twinkle Little Star' and 'I'm Your Hoochie Coochie Man' as mandated by Congress 'to maintain and preserve sound recordings and collections of sound recordings that are culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant.
The Sex Pistols * Never Mind the Bullocks (WB) 77Pull together all the stray and bootlegged bits once and for all.
The Clash (Epic) 77Same thing -- what the hell is the deal with issuing separate U.S. and U.K. editions? Lame. Bring it all together, with the singles and B-sides.
New York Dolls * New York Dolls (Mercury) 73
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 August 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)
― edde (edde), Monday, 21 August 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)
― Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Monday, 21 August 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Monday, 21 August 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)
― Bill Magill (Bill Magill), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)
the who dx's seem pointless as the mid-90s releases had tons of great bonus tracks already.
― a.b. (alanbanana), Monday, 21 August 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)
Irksome that some of these never come out in the States, though- ABC, the Orb, Pulp (so far), etc...
― Telephonething (Telephonething), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)
The Pretenders
Disc 1 1. "Precious" 2. "The Phone Call" 3. "Up The Neck" 4. "Tattooed Love Boys" 5. "Space Invader" 6. "The Wait" 7. "Stop Your Sobbing" 8. "Kid" 9. "Private Life" 10. "Brass In Pocket" 11. "Lovers Of Today" 12. "Mystery Achievement"
Disc 2
1. "Cuban Slide" 2. "Porcelain" 3. "The Phone Call" -- Demo* 4. "The Wait" -- Demo* 5. "I Can't Control Myself" -- Demo* 6. "Swinging London" 7. "Brass In Pocket" -- Demo* 8. "Kid" -- Demo* 9. "Stop Your Sobbing" -- Demo* 10. "Tequila" -- Demo* 11. "Nervous But Shy" 12. "I Need Somebody" -- Live BBC 13. "Mystery Achievement" -- Live BBC 14. "Precious" -- Live* 15. "Tattooed Love Boys" -- Live* 16. "Sabre Dance -- Live*
PRETENDERS II Track Listing
Disc 1
1. "The Adultress" 2. "Bad Boys Get Spanked" 3. "Message Of Love" 4. "I Go To Sleep" 5. "Birds Of Paradise" 6. "Talk Of The Town" 7. "Pack It Up" 8. "Waste Not Want Not" 9. "Day After Day" 10. "Jealous Dogs" 11. "The English Roses" 12. "Louie Louie"
1. "The Wait" -- Live 2. "The Adultress" -- Live 3. "Message Of Love" -- Live 4. "Louie Louie" -- Live 5. "Talk Of The Town" -- Live 6. "Birds Of Paradise" -- Live 7. "The English Roses" -- Live 8. "Up The Neck" -- Live 9. "Bad Boys Get Spanked" -- Live 10. "Stop Your Sobbing" -- Live 11. "Private Life" -- Live 12. "Kid" -- Live 13. "Day After Day" -- Live 14. "Brass In Pocket" -- Live 15. "Higher And Higher" -- Live 16. "Talk Of The Town" -- Demo* 17. "I Go To Sleep" -- Guitar Version Outtake* 18. "Pack It Up" -- Radio Mix Outtake*
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Saturday, 2 September 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)
― blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 2 September 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)
― Marmot (marmotwolof), Saturday, 2 September 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 3 September 2006 05:01 (nineteen years ago)
As far as B-sides go, there's the Martin Chambers-penned and sung "Fast or Slow (The Law's the Law)" and a bunch of live cuts ("Time the Avenger," "Bad Boys Get Spanked," and a cover of "Money" from the un-legendary US Festival).
Incidentally, as far as legitimate releases go, it looks like Pretenders II is missing the Small Faces cover "What You Gonna Do About It" from Flexipop magazine, and the B-side instrumental "In the Sticks."
― Hideous Lump (Hideous Lump), Sunday, 3 September 2006 05:24 (nineteen years ago)
In a case of super-deluxe oneupmanship, NIN's drummer Josh Freese has now put out his Since 1972 album on 11 formats. $7 gets you a digital download; $50 and you'll receive a "Thank you" phone call from Josh for buying Since 1972. And, for the fan who has everything, including limitless funds, there's a $75,000 limited edition of one, for which Josh will write, record and release a five-song EP about you and your life story, and take a flying trapeze lesson with you, after which you get to "go back to Robin from NIN's place and his wife will make you raw lasagne". To prove that even the wealthiest fans can't get everything they want, there is a "no spooning" clause.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 12:27 (sixteen years ago)
Schweet. Not a bad b-day present for that crazy NIN fan in your life, heh.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 13:34 (sixteen years ago)